Astran / Middle East Drivers

[john_mcvey]

Guesty44:

coca cola kid:
What year did Astran start doing middle east anyone.Please

Think it was in the 50s cck.

1964 surely!?

[nz_jamie]

Not the 50’s First trip to Kabul was 1964.

[guesty44]

John McVey:

Guesty44:

coca cola kid:
What year did Astran start doing middle east anyone.Please

Think it was in the 60s cck.

1964 surely!?

My clicken mistake.
GUESTY44

[guesty44]

Guesty44:

coca cola kid:
What year did Astran start doing middle east anyone.Please

Think it was in the 60s cck.

[coca_cola_kid]

1964 That would be about ten years before Archbold then, I have a mate i worked with that did middle east, pioneer for Archbold, he knew a lot of Astran & many more also had his own truck pulling for Whittle, well i have just persuaded him to let me have some of his pictures to put on TNUK about 60, your thoughts guys should i post them here Astran / Middle East Drivers or start a new thread Archbold Middle East, as they don’t get much of a mention anywhere on TNUK & i can see a few asking for pictures of Archbold I’m going to post a couple for you of Alan to see if any of you old timers can recall him Cheers Mel CCK

Alan Wright

[smldaredevil]

hi my name is ismail. I am 29 and ı am living in istanbul. some little contribution from me
tuzcuoÄŸlu nakliyat still works. and the stagecoach still their emblem.
tuzcuoÄŸlu means son of a salt trader. they have offices in the adana and izmir.
nakliyat: transport
tehlikeli madde: dangerous substance. but it includes every kind of flammable hazardous and toxic material. almost every kind of gas petrol etc. or liquid carriers put that warning sign to their vehicles in turkish roads.
uzun araç: long vehicle.
askeri araç: army vehicle or a vehicle belongs to army.

thanks for the positive comments about turkish drivers.
they are still kamikaze though
cheers from istanbul

[robert1952]

smldaredevil:
hi my name is ismail. I am 29 and ı am living in istanbul. some little contribution from me
tuzcuoÄŸlu nakliyat still works. and the stagecoach still their emblem.
tuzcuoÄŸlu means son of a salt trader. they have offices in the adana and izmir.
nakliyat: transport
tehlikeli madde: dangerous substance. but it includes every kind of flammable hazardous and toxic material. almost every kind of gas petrol etc. or liquid carriers put that warning sign to their vehicles in turkish roads.
uzun araç: long vehicle.
askeri araç: army vehicle or a vehicle belongs to army.

thanks for the positive comments about turkish drivers.
they are still kamikaze though
cheers from istanbul

A nice communication from Istanbul. Thank you. And we forgot Allah Korusan: God protects! So many Turkish lorries used to carry this inscription above their cabs. Robert

[john_west]

Hi Ismail,

Thanks for your translations. I think I remembered the signs on the back of the diesel and petrol tankers in 1976 as ‘tellikelli’ - too many 'l’s. not much fun over tarsus on the old road if you had a tehlikeli in front of you!

I remember Tuzcuoglo and the stage coach. Tuz Golu, on your right as you head from Ankara ‘Salt lake’ to Aksaray.

The Turkish lorry drivers were almost always friendly and helpful. The bus drivers, dressed like airline pilots, were something else! I used to just slow down and let them past. If you didn’t, as seen on this thread, the boy who sold coke would open the rear door and throw bottles at you! I only needed one lesson!

I haven’t been back, but my friends tell me that Turkey is a wonderful holiday destination.

Çok güzel

Güle güle

Best wishes,

John

[smldaredevil]

thank you so much dear mr. robert1952 and mr. john west
lest go on then and make some more translations.

as you can easily remember there were several type of inscriptions the turkish drivers were common used. ‘‘MaÅŸallah’’ and ‘‘Allah korusun’’ two of them.
MaÅŸallah is a congratulate word. when you see somebody has good things you use that word.
you mean: you have something good ( a nice car or a nice boy or you catch a very big fish from river etc. ) and ı dont jealous it. and god protect it. and you have it because god gave you it.
in that good old days if you had a nice shiny new truck you would definitely write that front of your cabin. and remind people saying maÅŸallah.

Allah korusun: god protect. (me you anybody) if you are a turkish driver with big moustache and if you wrote this front of your cabin you mean: my dear god protect this people who is on the road. me, the passengers, my load my lorry that… comes from opposite side with halogen lights fully open.

and there is a famous insallah. insallah means if god let us. to do anything. and ı hope that way.(ı hope god let us)

as you know in the good old days turkish roads were very famous because of terrible accidents.
I mean real accidents horrible ones. people were dying on the roads.
and that days when people going somewhere they were thinking if ı would go there alive?
due to that ‘‘pilot’’ coach drivers a whole generation of turks still afraid going somewhere with bus. my parents for example.

mr john west. ı clearly remember those trucks you mention. ford d 1210 etc.ı still remember their engine sounds.
when ı was child they were still on the roads. today there are very rare because goverment buying them and recycling them. if you have 74 model truck or bus and if you sell it goverment you can make around 20.000 turkish lira profit. half of it cash and half tax release(?). which makes 5k quid. nice money nowadays junkyards are full with old rusty trucks. from that rusty beauties my favourite is scania 140 ı believe even today it is a better truck than mercedes axor.

if you want to come that wonderful holiday destination (which it is ) be my guest

[david_miller]

It is really excellent that we are getting contributions to the thread from our Turkish friends, Welcome lads - or better said hoÅŸ geldiniz beyler.

David

[guesty44]

smldaredevil:
thank you so much dear mr. robert1952 and mr. john west
lest go on then and make some more translations.

as you can easily remember there were several type of inscriptions the turkish drivers were common used. ‘‘MaÅŸallah’’ and ‘‘Allah korusun’’ two of them.
MaÅŸallah is a congratulate word. when you see somebody has good things you use that word.
you mean: you have something good ( a nice car or a nice boy or you catch a very big fish from river etc. ) and ı dont jealous it. and god protect it. and you have it because god gave you it.
in that good old days if you had a nice shiny new truck you would definitely write that front of your cabin. and remind people saying maÅŸallah.

Allah korusun: god protect. (me you anybody) if you are a turkish driver with big moustache and if you wrote this front of your cabin you mean: my dear god protect this people who is on the road. me, the passengers, my load my lorry that… comes from opposite side with halogen lights fully open.
Hiya smidaredevil.
Hiya thanks to the turkish translations and other comments about time there was someone out the
that knows a little more than we do on the thread.
GUESTY44

and there is a famous insallah. insallah means if god let us. to do anything. and ı hope that way.(ı hope god let us)

as you know in the good old days turkish roads were very famous because of terrible accidents.
I mean real accidents horrible ones. people were dying on the roads.
and that days when people going somewhere they were thinking if ı would go there alive?
due to that ‘‘pilot’’ coach drivers a whole generation of turks still afraid going somewhere with bus. my parents for example.

mr john west. ı clearly remember those trucks you mention. ford d 1210 etc.ı still remember their engine sounds.
when ı was child they were still on the roads. today there are very rare because goverment buying them and recycling them. if you have 74 model truck or bus and if you sell it goverment you can make around 20.000 turkish lira profit. half of it cash and half tax release(?). which makes 5k quid. nice money nowadays junkyards are full with old rusty trucks. from that rusty beauties my favourite is scania 140 ı believe even today it is a better truck than mercedes axor.

if you want to come that wonderful holiday destination (which it is ) be my guest

[jeffrey_ellener]

coca cola kid:
1964 That would be about ten years before Archbold then, I have a mate i worked with that did middle east, pioneer for Archbold, he knew a lot of Astran & many more also had his own truck pulling for Whittle, well i have just persuaded him to let me have some of his pictures to put on TNUK about 60, your thoughts guys should i post them here Astran / Middle East Drivers or start a new thread Archbold Middle East, as they don’t get much of a mention anywhere on TNUK & i can see a few asking for pictures of Archbold I’m going to post a couple for you of Alan to see if any of you old timers can recall him Cheers Mel CCK

Alan Wright

Alan was the first m/e driver at Archbolds . They took a lot of building materials over there . I worked in the garage at the time. The Fiats were run in on genral then put to work on m/e . One came back and was put in the Leeds show, half of the truck/trailer was steam cleaned the other half as was.It had a sign on the back just returned from the middle east .The trailers were well fitted out with belly tanks down both sides full of red diesel electric pumps and two good sized storage lockers.

[panx]

Guesty44:

smldaredevil:
thank you so much dear mr. robert1952 and mr. john west
lest go on then and make some more translations.

as you can easily remember there were several type of inscriptions the turkish drivers were common used. ‘‘MaÅŸallah’’ and ‘‘Allah korusun’’ two of them.
MaÅŸallah is a congratulate word. when you see somebody has good things you use that word.
you mean: you have something good ( a nice car or a nice boy or you catch a very big fish from river etc. ) and ı dont jealous it. and god protect it. and you have it because god gave you it.
in that good old days if you had a nice shiny new truck you would definitely write that front of your cabin. and remind people saying maÅŸallah.

Allah korusun: god protect. (me you anybody) if you are a turkish driver with big moustache and if you wrote this front of your cabin you mean: my dear god protect this people who is on the road. me, the passengers, my load my lorry that… comes from opposite side with halogen lights fully open.
Hiya smidaredevil.
Hiya thanks to the turkish translations and other comments about time there was someone out the
that knows a little more than we do on the thread.
GUESTY44

and there is a famous insallah. insallah means if god let us. to do anything. and ı hope that way.(ı hope god let us)

as you know in the good old days turkish roads were very famous because of terrible accidents.
I mean real accidents horrible ones. people were dying on the roads.
and that days when people going somewhere they were thinking if ı would go there alive?
due to that ‘‘pilot’’ coach drivers a whole generation of turks still afraid going somewhere with bus. my parents for example.

mr john west. ı clearly remember those trucks you mention. ford d 1210 etc.ı still remember their engine sounds.
when ı was child they were still on the roads. today there are very rare because goverment buying them and recycling them. if you have 74 model truck or bus and if you sell it goverment you can make around 20.000 turkish lira profit. half of it cash and half tax release(?). which makes 5k quid. nice money nowadays junkyards are full with old rusty trucks. from that rusty beauties my favourite is scania 140 ı believe even today it is a better truck than mercedes axor.

if you want to come that wonderful holiday destination (which it is ) be my guest

Talking of holidays, I was in Northern Cyprus last week ( Turkish Side ) and whilst driving to the Eastern end of the Island I came across this little Turkish restaurant, probably named after its owners home town. I even saw one old red Fargo D Series Tonka, pulling out of a building site it must be one of very few still working.

All the very best

Mick B

[guesty44]

smldaredevil:
hi my name is ismail. I am 29 and ı am living in istanbul. some little contribution from me
tuzcuoÄŸlu nakliyat still works. and the stagecoach still their emblem.
tuzcuoÄŸlu means son of a salt trader. they have offices in the adana and izmir.
nakliyat: transport
tehlikeli madde: dangerous substance. but it includes every kind of flammable hazardous and toxic material. almost every kind of gas petrol etc. or liquid carriers put that warning sign to their vehicles in turkish roads.
uzun araç: long vehicle.
askeri araç: army vehicle or a vehicle belongs to army.

thanks for the positive comments about turkish drivers.
they are still kamikaze though
cheers from istanbul

Hiya “smidaredevil” Thanks for all the info on tucuoglu transport they helped me
out big time after being stuck waiting for three days. (Long story) Are there any pictures
that you can post.
GUESTY44.

[smldaredevil]

hello
some test shoot

[smldaredevil]

one more

[smldaredevil]

pictures from me stories from you

[smldaredevil]

[smldaredevil]

[smldaredevil]

dear guesty 44 ı added some
ı hope you may find the truck and driver who helped you from the pictures.
ı am (we all) expecting some cracking storries about middle east trips.
as you know we all passed from same ways

dear mickb.
gaziantep is a city of delicious food. so many people use that kind of names for attraction. ı dont know maybe the owner a migrant came from antep. possible.
two years ago ı visited cordoba city spain. when ı try to find some ‘‘halal’’ food. ı saw a pizza or kebap house which name is turkish kebap house.
but when ı went inside ı saw some pakistani people. same ıssue everywhere.
by the way gazi means veteran so veteran antep

three months ago ı visited northern cyprus. very nice island. cancuri transport and dörtgazi transport they are major transport companies from turkish side ı blieve.
and ı have some pictures but not in this computer sorry.

tonkas are dying. because of some reasons. (ı hate that tonkas and ı never liked them) when you speak some drivers or owners. they all saying same. burning so much fuel.
maintenance and spare parts are problem. they are slow. loading capacity is not much. today buying a brand new truck in my country is easier then buying second hands.

let em dye mr mickb they had always personality problems.
(ı mean the vehicles not the owners or drivers. and except some passionate people ı dont know so much people who liked them)