A little test or two UKT to check you say you are who you say you are.
UKT what do the figures “25” mean to you? What else would go with them?
How would you actually say Sergeant, how would this be actually said?
Complete the two words:" _________ comical" - hint, think one line.
Complete the two words: __________ brown"
Anyone think of anything else that can’t easily be found via Google?
Please don’t give him the answers!!
this might take a while.
1 ignore
2 google it to death
3 wait till he comes back from another trip to iceland
4 strop
5 phone a friend
apologies about the double post there troops 
OK ex army lads, I have to comment on this as I have some experience of employing them.
The problem seems to be that ex army lads are used to being part of a team and being told what to do. Once left to their own devices they are out of their comfort zone, eg tramping, Great! they can drive the truck, but they can’t handle the loneliness thing.
This is not of course across the board, I can name a half dozen ex army lads who have been brilliant trampers
Lonewolf Yorks:
OK ex army lads, I have to comment on this as I have some experience of employing them.The problem seems to be that ex army lads are used to being part of a team and being told what to do. Once left to their own devices they are out of their comfort zone, eg tramping, Great! they can drive the truck, but they can’t handle the loneliness thing.
This is not of course across the board, I can name a half dozen ex army lads who have been brilliant trampers
Not true mate soldiers are not reliant on company, or out of their comfort zone, only time they are out of it is when they are surrounded by muggles.
NelsonsCounty:
A little test or two UKT to check you say you are who you say you are.UKT what do the figures “25” mean to you? What else would go with them?
How would you actually say Sergeant, how would this be actually said?
Complete the two words:" _________ comical" - hint, think one line.
Complete the two words: __________ brown"Anyone think of anything else that can’t easily be found via Google?
Please don’t give him the answers!!
B - B
jakethesnake:
All army recruits go through an LGV test how ever if your trade is a driver you will be trained on all sorts of vehicles and some far larger than any civvy would drive. An army drivers training is far more involved and intensive than a civvy sitting a basic LGV test.
I’ve hauled 100 tonne wind turbines masts, much longer and heavier than anything the Army moves. In fact probably wider as well.
Much of what you learn in the Army is of no use in civvy street. We hardly need to be driving Hagglunds in the UK and unless you’re doing tippers you’re not likely to be going over anything off road even remotely like the tamer parts of the Leconfield training grounds. When they do training with loads in the Army you don’t even strap it down, its been strapped down by someone else who did it so long ago everything has rusted to one solid lump anyway and you crawl along the roads of East Yorkshire at 30-40MPH at the most.
And who is teaching the Army drivers at the Defence School of Driving? Civvy truck drivers. My mate is one of them.
Conor:
jakethesnake:
All army recruits go through an LGV test how ever if your trade is a driver you will be trained on all sorts of vehicles and some far larger than any civvy would drive. An army drivers training is far more involved and intensive than a civvy sitting a basic LGV test.I’ve hauled 100 tonne wind turbines masts, much longer and heavier than anything the Army moves. In fact probably wider as well.
Much of what you learn in the Army is of no use in civvy street. We hardly need to be driving Hagglunds in the UK and unless you’re doing tippers you’re not likely to be going over anything off road even remotely like the tamer parts of the Leconfield training grounds. When they do training with loads in the Army you don’t even strap it down, its been strapped down by someone else who did it so long ago everything has rusted to one solid lump anyway and you crawl along the roads of East Yorkshire at 30-40MPH at the most.
And who is teaching the Army drivers at the Defence School of Driving? Civvy truck drivers. My mate is one of them.
Haaglunds would be specialised use, mainly artic warfare, and not something likely the majority of the army would see let alone be trained on.
Conor:
jakethesnake:
All army recruits go through an LGV test how ever if your trade is a driver you will be trained on all sorts of vehicles and some far larger than any civvy would drive. An army drivers training is far more involved and intensive than a civvy sitting a basic LGV test.I’ve hauled 100 tonne wind turbines masts, much longer and heavier than anything the Army moves. In fact probably wider as well.
Much of what you learn in the Army is of no use in civvy street. We hardly need to be driving Hagglunds in the UK and unless you’re doing tippers you’re not likely to be going over anything off road even remotely like the tamer parts of the Leconfield training grounds. When they do training with loads in the Army you don’t even strap it down, its been strapped down by someone else who did it so long ago everything has rusted to one solid lump anyway and you crawl along the roads of East Yorkshire at 30-40MPH at the most.
And who is teaching the Army drivers at the Defence School of Driving? Civvy truck drivers. My mate is one of them.
Maybe you have but most have not.What you say is not true. They do strap loads. Seems you mate is giving you duff info. You are not the only one that knows people that work there.
What year were you in the Army ? 50’s, 60’s. 
There have been many changes since then. 
I have to say that where I work we have some excellent ex army/ navy/ airforce drivers. We also have had at times the most useless so I think it is very dangerous to make broad statements. Needless to say, the useless do not get to stay very long.I can quote 3 examples;
Having taken out a new starter for training, with him in the passenger seat and me listening to him telling me how he was the worlds best driver, we arrived at out trailer park and I handed the outfit over.
“Drop that trailer in the first bay and collect the trailer in the 3rd bay.”
“OK, which way do I turn the wheel?”
“This lorry is no good…the load straps are not long enough”.
“Well adjust them”.
“How?”
Driver phoned office.
“I cannot find this drop, I have driven up and down the road several times and they have closed up and gone.”
“Yes they are there, look for green trucks (with the name on) parked outside.”
“No looked again and no sign.”
“Well I have just spoken to customer on phone, and he wants to know if he is going to get his delivery today or are you going to spend all day driving up and down?”
Then there was the one whose sat nav failed and he was unable to find his way back to the yard.
But to be fair it is not just ex servicemen who have trouble with navigation, I offered to lend one young agency driver a map, as he had forgotten his sat nav, he admitted he did not have a clue how to read it so I asked why he was here. He told me there was no place for maps in this day and age and he certainly should not be expected to use one.
Pete ?
Turning into a bit of a witch hunt
Wheel Nut:
NelsonsCounty:
A little test or two UKT to check you say you are who you say you are.UKT what do the figures “25” mean to you? What else would go with them?
How would you actually say Sergeant, how would this be actually said?
Complete the two words:" _________ comical" - hint, think one line.
Complete the two words: __________ brown"Anyone think of anything else that can’t easily be found via Google?
Please don’t give him the answers!!
B - B
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looks like were doing one of those.if i ignore it long enough,then mabey itl go away and be forgotten about.
jakethesnake:
Maybe you have but most have not.What you say is not true. They do strap loads. Seems you mate is giving you duff info. You are not the only one that knows people that work there.
What year were you in the Army ? 50’s, 60’s.
No they don’t strap loads other than one day of training in load securing. I live 12 miles from the largest Defence Driving School in the entire UK. I did my driver training there. When they get in their lorries to do their day’s training with a loaded truck and when doing convoy training the concrete filled palletised boxes on the back of them are already in place and strapped down. When you follow them around the straps holding them on are old, the metal banding round the boxes is rusty, the ratchets have long since passed the point they can be undone and I suspect that if they were subject to the same rules as we were VOSA would have a field day inspecting them.
I was in the Army in the early 90s. I did additional driver training in the 2000s. The way they’re taught has not changed. They’re still training to the same training schedule on exactly the same training routes, still parking up at the same snack vans around the county and cafe on Sutton Fields in Hull.
Grumpy Dad:
Turning into a bit of a witch hunt
The Army or Ex-forces drivers thread normally go the same way, every time it re-appears. 
Like many my personal experience of working alongside ex-forces drivers is mixed, which is basically the same as working alongside those who aren’t ex-forces.
Some good drivers, some average and some bad.
The same goes for the personality, some you’d never know they been in the forces, some you know they’re ex-forces and they’re matter of fact about it and do have a few good stories and funny tales which pass the time, and others who constantly bang on about it and try and act superior because of it.
However it does seem strange that the ex-forces types I’ve met who really could shout about what they’ve done and make us “now a-bed in England think themselves accurs’d they were not there, And hold our manhoods cheap” are the often the most modest, down to earth types, you could meet and play down their act’s of bravery when you eventually find out about it.
Grumpy Dad:
Turning into a bit of a witch hunt
Look at who the OP and check his only other post in this topic and surely you can’t be suprised
It’s pathetic, like I mentioned before, this place will be going rapidly downhill to the dark old days unless someone with a red font actually develops the ability to grow a pair and think outside the box.
Place is a ■■■■■■■ embarrassment again…
Norfolkinclue1:
Grumpy Dad:
Turning into a bit of a witch huntLook at who the OP and check his only other post in this topic and surely you can’t be suprised
It’s pathetic, like I mentioned before, this place will be going rapidly downhill to the dark old days unless someone with a red font actually develops the ability to grow a pair and think outside the box.
Place is a [zb] embarrassment again…
+1. Load of tripe.
Conor:
jakethesnake:
Maybe you have but most have not.What you say is not true. They do strap loads. Seems you mate is giving you duff info. You are not the only one that knows people that work there.
What year were you in the Army ? 50’s, 60’s.No they don’t strap loads other than one day of training in load securing. I live 12 miles from the largest Defence Driving School in the entire UK. I did my driver training there. When they get in their lorries to do their day’s training with a loaded truck and when doing convoy training the concrete filled palletised boxes on the back of them are already in place and strapped down. When you follow them around the straps holding them on are old, the metal banding round the boxes is rusty, the ratchets have long since passed the point they can be undone and I suspect that if they were subject to the same rules as we were VOSA would have a field day inspecting them.
I was in the Army in the early 90s. I did additional driver training in the 2000s. The way they’re taught has not changed. They’re still training to the same training schedule on exactly the same training routes, still parking up at the same snack vans around the county and cafe on Sutton Fields in Hull.
I am fairly sure you are not correct but I will check soonest and apologise if wrong.
Eg Did you know they don’t do drops courses any longer?
They don’t use Daf 4 tonnes anymore. Dreaded Man autos. 
And they do very few LGV tests now.
jakethesnake:
Conor:
jakethesnake:
All army recruits go through an LGV test how ever if your trade is a driver you will be trained on all sorts of vehicles and some far larger than any civvy would drive. An army drivers training is far more involved and intensive than a civvy sitting a basic LGV test.I’ve hauled 100 tonne wind turbines masts, much longer and heavier than anything the Army moves. In fact probably wider as well.
Much of what you learn in the Army is of no use in civvy street. We hardly need to be driving Hagglunds in the UK and unless you’re doing tippers you’re not likely to be going over anything off road even remotely like the tamer parts of the Leconfield training grounds. When they do training with loads in the Army you don’t even strap it down, its been strapped down by someone else who did it so long ago everything has rusted to one solid lump anyway and you crawl along the roads of East Yorkshire at 30-40MPH at the most.
And who is teaching the Army drivers at the Defence School of Driving? Civvy truck drivers. My mate is one of them.
Maybe you have but most have not.What you say is not true. They do strap loads. Seems you mate is giving you duff info. You are not the only one that knows people that work there.
What year were you in the Army ? 50’s, 60’s.
Our operating base is on an airfield that’s half shared with a logistics regiment and what he has described is exactly how they operate as far as I can see. Civilian HGV driving school vehicles come in and train them and all the dummy loads of ammo boxes etc. are already strapped to pallets, stillages or flat racks.
Oh and the constantly repaired gatepost on the entrance lasts a maximum of 4 weeks before another one of the army’s best takes it out on something not even slightly ressembling a tight turn
DAFs you mean Bedfords
There are all sorts of muppets in this field of work with all manner of previous backgrounds.
I don’t think you can make a case for any group of ex-anything being better drivers than another group of ex-anything.
I was in the Army (Administrator by trade) for just under 21 years, got my Car and Class 2 whilst serving (never drove Class 2 again after my test though) and got my Class 1 during resettlement at Ritchies in Glasgow.
I think I am at best an above average driver, but just through experience, not because I served Queen and Country !!
