limeyphil:
you can buy 35 hours of training for £250. all you have to do is attend the pub and give the bloke the cash. no need to take a week off work.
Thought the going rate was £150, if your contact is prepared to agree to that I might change me mind 
(an I’ll buy him a pint)
Of course there are hundreds of tower crane operating jobs around, almost ten a penny. 
The thing that worries me is that if all the long-standing drivers start hanging their keys up - we’ll be left the more recent drivers. Now, obviously there are good and bad drivers of all ages, but in general, the standard of driving has deteriorated dramatically in recent years. I think the road etiquette of professional drivers is just not passed on anymore, and I despair of the appalling standards we are now seeing.
There’s a good chance that DCPC will quietly get dropped as a “legal requirement”, because if it’s pressed home, there will be such a sudden drop in the number of licenced drivers, that pay would soar above £20ph overnight.
The suit fiends can’t be having that can they?
Therefore, I suggest it’s not going to happen. 
Plenty of polish drivers waiting to jump in your seat, So don’t worry the dcpc will stay and 90% will be polish who do adays work without moaning.
Well i done it all, got card no more to do now till 2019 if i want.
The reason i did it now is the price is going to go up and to find a place could be a nightmare
I did a SAFED course and found it very useful and an urban driving one, safe loading practices
Not a bad tutor new is stuff DSA and RTITB
Total cost for me just under £300 but IMO worth it got a free dinner, and lots of biscuits
Winseer:
There’s a good chance that DCPC will quietly get dropped as a “legal requirement”, because if it’s pressed home, there will be such a sudden drop in the number of licenced drivers, that pay would soar above £20ph overnight.The suit fiends can’t be having that can they?
Therefore, I suggest it’s not going to happen.
I agree, I think it will either be dropped or delayed. And I’ve got no vested interest in saying that, I’ve completed mine and got the card.
delboytwo:
Well i done it all, got card no more to do now till 2019 if i want.The reason i did it now is the price is going to go up and to find a place could be a nightmare
I did a SAFED course and found it very useful and an urban driving one, safe loading practices
Not a bad tutor new is stuff DSA and RTITB
Total cost for me just under £300 but IMO worth it got a free dinner, and lots of biscuits
More power to you!
But,i know how to drive in an urban enviroment,i also know how to drive fuel efficiently,and i know how to load safely almost anything a truck carries.
I gained all these skills through hard nosed practical everyday driving,i don’t need some appointed trainer to tell me what i already know just so i can put another piece of plastic in my wallet and carry on as i always have done all for the privledge of making said wallet lighter to the tune of possibly £500!
It is nothing short of legalized robbery!
Rant over…
Harry Monk:
Winseer:
There’s a good chance that DCPC will quietly get dropped as a “legal requirement”, because if it’s pressed home, there will be such a sudden drop in the number of licenced drivers, that pay would soar above £20ph overnight.The suit fiends can’t be having that can they?
Therefore, I suggest it’s not going to happen.
I agree, I think it will either be dropped or delayed. And I’ve got no vested interest in saying that, I’ve completed mine and got the card.
there well never pull the plug or delay it the EU put in there the only ones that could pull it but i doubt that
it there did pull it people that have done it could take them to court, the trainers could take them to court it would cost the EU millions. and the EU don’t like paying out just getting in, there don’t care.
the amount of money that it as cost to bring the thing in, is in the millions
and also remember the age of the average driver in the industry it still in there 40s, there is a lot of young 18 to 24 year old out of work so wait a bit the job centre will start giving free training to them if there want it
I did my class 2 in June, and my class 1 three weeks ago, so I got 14 hours for each of those.
Paid out another £70 for my last 7 hours. That’s it put to bed, nothing to worry about for a few years.
Did I learn anything from it? Not really. Just wanted it out of the way.
PaulNowak:
I did my class 2 in June, and my class 1 three weeks ago, so I got 14 hours for each of those.Paid out another £70 for my last 7 hours. That’s it put to bed, nothing to worry about for a few years.
Did I learn anything from it? Not really. Just wanted it out of the way.
You’ll learn a ■■■■ sight more “on the job” so’s to speak,absolutely no training in the world would have prepared me for a life on the road.
obsessivecompulsive2:
delboytwo:
Well i done it all, got card no more to do now till 2019 if i want.The reason i did it now is the price is going to go up and to find a place could be a nightmare
I did a SAFED course and found it very useful and an urban driving one, safe loading practices
Not a bad tutor new is stuff DSA and RTITB
Total cost for me just under £300 but IMO worth it got a free dinner, and lots of biscuits
More power to you!
But,i know how to drive in an urban enviroment,i also know how to drive fuel efficiently,and i know how to load safely almost anything a truck carries.
I gained all these skills through hard nosed practical everyday driving,i don’t need some appointed trainer to tell me what i already know just so i can put another piece of plastic in my wallet and carry on as i always have done all for the privledge of making said wallet lighter to the tune of possibly £500!
It is nothing short of legalized robbery!
Rant over…
would like to say its my money and i did the ones that mite look good on a CV and did not want to go down the repetitive way paying £250 for 5 courses that tell you how the tachograph work or does, would drive me up the wall 
delboytwo:
obsessivecompulsive2:
delboytwo:
Well i done it all, got card no more to do now till 2019 if i want.The reason i did it now is the price is going to go up and to find a place could be a nightmare
I did a SAFED course and found it very useful and an urban driving one, safe loading practices
Not a bad tutor new is stuff DSA and RTITB
Total cost for me just under £300 but IMO worth it got a free dinner, and lots of biscuits
More power to you!
But,i know how to drive in an urban enviroment,i also know how to drive fuel efficiently,and i know how to load safely almost anything a truck carries.
I gained all these skills through hard nosed practical everyday driving,i don’t need some appointed trainer to tell me what i already know just so i can put another piece of plastic in my wallet and carry on as i always have done all for the privledge of making said wallet lighter to the tune of possibly £500!
It is nothing short of legalized robbery!
Rant over…
would like to say its my money and i did the ones that mite look good on a CV and did not want to go down the repetitive way paying £250 for 5 courses that tell you how the tachograph work or does, would drive me up the wall
The whole DCPC thing drives me up the wall!
I was looking at doing level 6 tankers ADR - so I’d actually have something to be going on with at the end of it.
I can’t say I’m interested in one of these “bung some guy some money for 35 hours credit” options that seems to be going about.
Isn’t any of it written exam by the way?
If it is, there’s going to be difficulties in newbie foreign drivers getting one, as their English might not be upto that standard yet.
Winseer:
I was looking at doing level 6 tankers ADR - so I’d actually have something to be going on with at the end of it.I can’t say I’m interested in one of these “bung some guy some money for 35 hours credit” options that seems to be going about.
Isn’t any of it written exam by the way?
If it is, there’s going to be difficulties in newbie foreign drivers getting one, as their English might not be upto that standard yet.
DCPC training for existing licence holders doesnt require a written exam or any exam to be passed. However,new drivers do.
Winseer:
…Isn’t any of it written exam by the way?
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You might get a couple of tests during the actual course, but they are primarily so that the instructor has proof that they are doing the course correctly.
Incidentally, on one of the courses I did there was a visit from an inspector (on a Saturday morning!) who sat in for half an hour, took details and then went on his way - the instructor said they have been warned that spot checks will increase as it gets towards 2013/2014.
A question for those that found courses which were useful to them and now have a DQC …
Will there be a point where no course will be useful because you have done all the ones that were ?
Drivers that don’t get there cpc by sept 2014 can’t drive a truck legaly so you have broke your terms of employment an your boss won’t give you a second thought as leave jobless, so the 21 year old with his cpc complete and full of eagerness to fill your job will suddenly look like the better option.
Drivers you need to move with the times or get out of the industry its that simple
RIZZO101:
Drivers that don’t get there cpc by sept 2014 can’t drive a truck legaly so you have broke your terms of employment an your boss won’t give you a second thought as leave jobless, so the 21 year old with his cpc complete and full of eagerness to fill your job will suddenly look like the better option.Drivers you need to move with the times or get out of the industry its that simple
Most drivers are not against apropriate training so if the dcpc was tailored to their needs then this thread would not exist
d4c24a:
volvobloke:
haha, yeah know what you mean, im toying with getting my 360 ticket, good moneywelcome to the biggest con in the construction world CPCS
just as well do your dcpc
I am not long out of the construction industry… Plumber/gas fitter/heating engineer for 33 yrs ( mostly subbying)… no long term work in the NE…sick of the “4 week contracts” then no work…money now is about on par with a driving job… gone are the days of “Big Bucks”
Took my class 2 two years ago but could not get a driving job (experience)…I am working now, class 2 multidrop (cages) & love it.
Its hard graft, but I’m used to that as most of my life I been installing “one day central heating systems”.
The point is being a plumber nowadays, you need CSCS (Health & Safety), Gas Qualifications, Gas Safe/Corgi registered… new Regs means more courses etc…all this costs a fortune & all are exams/test…Gas has to be a 100% pass!!..too be honest, health & safety has gone beyond a joke imo!
DCPC sounds a doddle…35 hours of listening??..attend the 35hrs & its a “pass”…granted you have to pay for it unless your work will fund it…par for the course for most things these days.
These days it doesnt matter what you do, everthing comes at a “price”
