Are you concerned/bothered about the corona virus?

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How seriously can we take any “Data” from the internet though?

We’re neither being told how many in Africa and Russia atm, with me suspecting the numbers are nothing similar…
If only we realised that we need to be open to “hints and tips from Russia” and the need to “cut AFRICA loose” I suspect…
If it turned out that people like Trump, Putin, and Xiping have got effective measures on the roll - but are being lamblasted for everything and anything, whilst people actually going around spreading this through open borders - continue to get away with it un-checked… Those who cannot see past their own petty hatreds for world leaders on the opposite side of politics from one’s own standing - will make it all the worse for the rest of us of a more neutral standing. :frowning:

It is too late to avoid the spread of this, or any other virus.
The key now - is isolation initially for six weeks, and if you do find yourself catching it - weather it out, and hold firm.

We all had here what I’ll call “double flu” two years back. This year - we have yet to catch a common cold since Christmas, which is highly unusual in this household.

“Natural Immunity” I feel - can best be gotten by having caught a bad strain beforehand…

Eat well, and keep your natural bodily resistances up.

It isn’t “catching it” that worries me… It is being maltreated by my fellow citizens for “coping better than they are” as a family unit. :frowning:

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Winseer:
I still think this is a huge conspiracy btw.

I know more people that have won a major prize on the bloody lottery - than have died from this virus, even “supposedly” died, but in fact died of something else like Bronchial Pneumonia like both my grandads did… :unamused:

Tim Martin’s customers - will now act as Guinea Pigs for a little social experiment:

If a significant number (more than one) now die aged 20-30 from Coronavirus, rather than in a DD road accident, with post-mortem finding that the deceased had a cold, and able to force a death certificate to make use of that “Medical condition at death” With Cremation never having been so popular among the young, and a likelihood of the need to “incinerate for safety” - we’d get any such alleged coronavirus “Victims” - totally removed physically from this earth - before anyone in the legal profession can say “Exhumation Order Please”…
Coronavirus crisis: Wetherspoons boss insists his bars WILL stay open | Daily Mail Online
So Large numbers of Tim Martin’s customers now catching and dying very much in the public eye from Coronavirus - would suggest that I’m wrong about this being a conspiracy - wouldn’t it?

NO dying in droves - would suggest I’m CORRECT of course.

Betchya the establishment would just “double down” on it though, rather than back off, and give us our ■■■■■■■ money back they’ve stolen from us!

“It is easier to make the masses fall for a huge lie - than a small one” to paraphrase the toothbrush-moustached Ex-Chancellor…

I agree with Timbo over this… Look at how he is now being treated by the establishment-ordered mass media though? No different from Bolsonaro, another public figure who happens to be declaring against the narrative… Where are the depopulated cities with tens of thousands of deaths in Brazil then■■?

If you were on the Titanic, as the cold Atlantic waters were wetting your ankles, you’d be saying
“It’s alright, I can breath. No chance of drowning here!”
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If measures aren’t taken many will die prematurely for no good reason. If measures are taken, they will live full productive lives.
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If you think giving up a pint in a pub, is too high a price, I don’t agree.

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I wasn’t talking about “drinking a pint” - I’m talking about trashing the entire economy at the cost of likely 7-figures of lives indirectly ruined compared to maybe a just-over a million deaths of elderly and infirm at the top end of this so-called 2-3% attrition rate we get told of.

…Unless of course - we’ve been lied to all along, in which case the authorities need first to admit that they’ve lost control of the situation that they themselves have created - by not pulling up the drawbridge three years ago, thanks to 16.1million idiots that stood against anything like “Isolation” then and now.

We have loss of utilities and a breakdown in law and order - to look forward to as yet. That will end up killing over a million people in this country - from “neglect” if nothing else! Easily-cured other ailments, malnutrition, a spike in violent crime, and depression leading to a massive rise in the suicide rate - to name but a few examples…
By the time the establishment gets any full-cover financial net in place - that money won’t be of any use to people any longer, and we’ll have martial law in place to try and shut the stable door after the horse has long since bolted…

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Winseer:

Carryfast:

Franglais:
Treat a tiger like a ■■■■■ cat and see what happens!

More like artificially inject a Tiger with Rabies then challenge it to a fight without a gun see what happens.

That is a paradox, as the tiger would just kill you before you gave it rabies, and without rabies - it wouldn’t bother waking up to attack you. Chicken and the egg. The gun is immaterial, since Tigers are not scared of guns, because they’ve never been or seen anything get shot by one on the whole. :stuck_out_tongue:

Trust me the Chinese could easily tranquilise a Tiger before either then eating it alive or injecting it with Rabies then sending it by Fed Ex to a Western zoo or circus.

As for the gun I have it on good authority that the Tigers in the Sundeban know exactly what a Lee Enfield is on sight from max range.

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The boredom of self isolation…

Did you know that if you rest one of your testicles on top of an empty beer bottle and hold a flame at the base, it eventually gets sucked in.

If you’ve done this already and know how to get it out, message me please.

Urgently.

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yourhavingalarf:
The boredom of self isolation…

Did you know that if you rest one of your testicles on top of an empty beer bottle and hold a flame at the base, it eventually gets sucked in.

If you’ve done this already and know how to get it out, message me please.

Urgently.

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:smiley: Alternatively use the time to discover the mysteries of the acoustic or electric guitar.Emerge a fully fledged minstrel with a little youtube tutelage.Dozens of top-notch players to fill your boots with.Just grab around 2 dozen chords to start and a life long love affair starts,ultimate boredom killer. :wink:

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Winseer:
How seriously can we take any “Data” from the internet though?

We’re neither being told how many in Africa and Russia atm, with me suspecting the numbers are nothing similar…
If only we realised that we need to be open to “hints and tips from Russia” and the need to “cut AFRICA loose” I suspect…
If it turned out that people like Trump, Putin, and Xiping have got effective measures on the roll - but are being lamblasted for everything and anything, whilst people actually going around spreading this through open borders - continue to get away with it un-checked… Those who cannot see past their own petty hatreds for world leaders on the opposite side of politics from one’s own standing - will make it all the worse for the rest of us of a more neutral standing. :frowning:

It is too late to avoid the spread of this, or any other virus.
The key now - is isolation initially for six weeks, and if you do find yourself catching it - weather it out, and hold firm.

We all had here what I’ll call “double flu” two years back. This year - we have yet to catch a common cold since Christmas, which is highly unusual in this household.

“Natural Immunity” I feel - can best be gotten by having caught a bad strain beforehand…

Eat well, and keep your natural bodily resistances up.

It isn’t “catching it” that worries me… It is being maltreated by my fellow citizens for “coping better than they are” as a family unit. :frowning:

Amen to that and up the vit c and d3 factor for immune system boosts at large doses if the virus does hit.Had a blood test misself last week for a few things but I requested a vitamin d check out of curiosity, this being a somewhat sunshine defficent nation an all.

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Winseer:
I still think this is a huge conspiracy btw.

“It is easier to make the masses fall for a huge lie - than a small one” to paraphrase the toothbrush-moustached Ex-Chancellor…

I’m 50/50 with this ^ ( agenda 21 etc ).

Or covert Chinese warning shot, just like 9/11 was a Chinese cruise missile attack.
On the basis of feed us and keep us supplied with stuff and give us your real estate and resources or else.The Chinese casualties, if any, were sacrificed to a lesser strain to provide plausible deniability and the western ‘rescue’ flights were part of the cover up to avoid having to sort out China and wreck the elites’ lucrative ‘business’ arrangements, just like the fake ‘Boeing’ that hit the Pentagon was.

Possibly even a combination of both.Bearing in mind those rescue flights were also actually China’s delivery system.

What is certain is that we’ll never know for sure.

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I think man made, natural occurrence, bad fluke, pure accident or whatever its largely irrelevant now and can be sorted later.

I’m no drama queen but surely there’s enough people losing their lives in an increasing amount on a daily basis to hunker down and follow the advice? People will die, maybe collectively we can each do our bit to ensure that amount is kept to a minimum.

I might get a cold or whatever, but my parents have underlying issues, the wife’s grandparents are in their 90s, and I’m sure we all have someone we want to protect?

At the moment we’re not in a national lockdown. They way people are behaving we will end up in one sooner.

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Winseer:
I still think this is a huge conspiracy btw.

I still think you’re an idiot btw.

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Tude:
Please do excuse me, for I have been in the pub tonight, the last time for a while

Is this it then? Are you finally getting round to leaving?

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toonsy:
At the moment we’re not in a national lockdown. They way people are behaving we will end up in one sooner.

The Government having borrowed 350 billion to cover 80% wages ect…on the basis of giving it three month to rid this virus…trust me we will be on lockdown sooner rather than later.

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Being of a "here today, gone tomorrow " kind of mindset, my attitude to these kind of issues is rather blunt. If it kills me, it does. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. I just get on with life. As for not spreading it around, why not? My other half has been isolating g for over a week, and told me that she’s told by the hospital that she has the virus. I’ve been off work, and avoiding contact (which comes natural anyway…) for a week now. But I still go shopping most days, needs must. We are an invasive species, and very close to destroying the Earths ecosystem. One day, it’s going to be the big one. Might be this one. Might not. You’re not going to be around in 60 years to care anyway.

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rearaxle:

toonsy:
At the moment we’re not in a national lockdown. They way people are behaving we will end up in one sooner.

The Government having borrowed 350 billion to cover 80% wages ect…on the basis of giving it three month to rid this virus…trust me we will be on lockdown sooner rather than later.

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Far too late with the lockdown already.
newscientist.com/article/22 … 19-deaths/
theguardian.com/society/202 … ing-doctor
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Note these are articles with quoted, reputable sources, not wild internet rumours.
The tardy, slack, actions by our Gov, and will cause extra unnecessary death and economic harm.

"Quarantines and social distancing could reduce the number of cases by half
The researchers modeled a number of different scenarios of how the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic might play out. In the absence of pharmaceutical treatments or a preventive vaccine for the virus, and without any social distancing measures that could slow its spread, they anticipate 81% of the populations in the UK and US will get infected.

That in turn, could lead to half a million deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US.

Under “mitigation” techniques scenario, which combines home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease, the two countries might reduce demand on the healthcare systems by two-thirds and deaths by half.

Even so, the researchers noted, they’d expect the limits of hospital beds to be exceeded by 8-times their capacity. That’d translate to 250,000 deaths in the UK, and 1.1 to 1.2 million in the US."
businessinsider.fr/us/coron … ion-2020-3
Based on the links in the article to Imperial College London.

To emphasize the point, if we close down now it could be 250,000 deaths as opposed to the 500,000 (very approx) if we carry on.
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And for those who think that is ok?
Who believe it is just above normal figures?
WW2 had the UK suffer from 383,700 military, and 67,200 civilian deaths throughout the years of the conflict.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
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This is, I reckon, a very serious situation.
Panicking and hoarding are unnecessary, food supplies are not at risk. But expecting to carry on, ignoring it, is equally stupid and equally selfish.
Just all stay away from each other as much as possible, and we will get past it, with less damage, sooner rather than later.
A little common sense, and community thinking goes a long way.

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Franglais:

rearaxle:

toonsy:
At the moment we’re not in a national lockdown. They way people are behaving we will end up in one sooner.

The Government having borrowed 350 billion to cover 80% wages ect…on the basis of giving it three month to rid this virus…trust me we will be on lockdown sooner rather than later.

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Far too late with the lockdown already.
newscientist.com/article/22 … 19-deaths/
theguardian.com/society/202 … ing-doctor
.
Note these are articles with quoted, reputable sources, not wild internet rumours.
The tardy, slack, actions by our Gov, and will cause extra unnecessary death and economic harm.

"Quarantines and social distancing could reduce the number of cases by half
The researchers modeled a number of different scenarios of how the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic might play out. In the absence of pharmaceutical treatments or a preventive vaccine for the virus, and without any social distancing measures that could slow its spread, they anticipate 81% of the populations in the UK and US will get infected.

That in turn, could lead to half a million deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US.

Under “mitigation” techniques scenario, which combines home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease, the two countries might reduce demand on the healthcare systems by two-thirds and deaths by half.

Even so, the researchers noted, they’d expect the limits of hospital beds to be exceeded by 8-times their capacity. That’d translate to 250,000 deaths in the UK, and 1.1 to 1.2 million in the US."
businessinsider.fr/us/coron … ion-2020-3
Based on the links in the article to Imperial College London.

To emphasize the point, if we close down now it could be 250,000 deaths as opposed to the 500,000 (very approx) if we carry on.
.
And for those who think that is ok?
Who believe it is just above normal figures?
WW2 had the UK suffer from 383,700 military, and 67,200 civilian deaths throughout the years of the conflict.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
.
This is, I reckon, a very serious situation.
Panicking and hoarding are unnecessary, food supplies are not at risk. But expecting to carry on, ignoring it, is equally stupid and equally selfish.
Just all stay away from each other as much as possible, and we will get past it, with less damage, sooner rather than later.
A little common sense, and community thinking goes a long way.

I think its far too late for a lockdown too. I genuinely can’t believe the stupidity of people in this country. The schools closed Friday and its like the summer holidays around here, people everywhere. Big BBQ’s on cannock chase forest etc.

800 people died in 24hours in Italy yesterday, do people not realise that could happen here :confused:

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maga:

Franglais:

rearaxle:

toonsy:
At the moment we’re not in a national lockdown. They way people are behaving we will end up in one sooner.

The Government having borrowed 350 billion to cover 80% wages ect…on the basis of giving it three month to rid this virus…trust me we will be on lockdown sooner rather than later.

Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk

Far too late with the lockdown already.
newscientist.com/article/22 … 19-deaths/
theguardian.com/society/202 … ing-doctor
.
Note these are articles with quoted, reputable sources, not wild internet rumours.
The tardy, slack, actions by our Gov, and will cause extra unnecessary death and economic harm.

"Quarantines and social distancing could reduce the number of cases by half
The researchers modeled a number of different scenarios of how the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic might play out. In the absence of pharmaceutical treatments or a preventive vaccine for the virus, and without any social distancing measures that could slow its spread, they anticipate 81% of the populations in the UK and US will get infected.

That in turn, could lead to half a million deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US.

Under “mitigation” techniques scenario, which combines home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease, the two countries might reduce demand on the healthcare systems by two-thirds and deaths by half.

Even so, the researchers noted, they’d expect the limits of hospital beds to be exceeded by 8-times their capacity. That’d translate to 250,000 deaths in the UK, and 1.1 to 1.2 million in the US."
businessinsider.fr/us/coron … ion-2020-3
Based on the links in the article to Imperial College London.

To emphasize the point, if we close down now it could be 250,000 deaths as opposed to the 500,000 (very approx) if we carry on.
.
And for those who think that is ok?
Who believe it is just above normal figures?
WW2 had the UK suffer from 383,700 military, and 67,200 civilian deaths throughout the years of the conflict.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
.
This is, I reckon, a very serious situation.
Panicking and hoarding are unnecessary, food supplies are not at risk. But expecting to carry on, ignoring it, is equally stupid and equally selfish.
Just all stay away from each other as much as possible, and we will get past it, with less damage, sooner rather than later.
A little common sense, and community thinking goes a long way.

I think its far too late for a lockdown too. I genuinely can’t believe the stupidity of people in this country. The schools closed Friday and its like the summer holidays around here, people everywhere. Big BBQ’s on cannock chase forest etc.

800 people died in 24hours in Italy yesterday, do people not realise that could happen here :confused:

Seems that paragon of modern ethics,Sean Penns doing his classic puppet lockdown everybody-shuffle.You couldn’t make this crap up.The whole deals a classic power grab,digitisation of cash,herd everyone together so the virus (lab engineered) can more effectively spread…with a nice side order of camouflaging the satanicaly infused ponzi finance scheme thats teetering to its inevitable demise,many birds with one stone project in essence.

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Shouldn’t people about to lose their livlihoods - actually get behind the government, and get pushed through at all speed any financial measures underway right now?

…Oh but the Tory Haters cannot - can they?

They won’t be letting Boris ■■■■ on them now that they are on fire, as the way they see it.

So… You’ve lost your job, and you don’t want nor approve of the government to help you out, unless it involves instant and free money…Something than be taken no-strings, and you can continue hating the very people that just granted you it…
What you’d rather have, is the government to resign, and hand over power to Jeremy Corbyn whilst he’s still the guy standing at the opposition dispatch box.

FFS The dole queues - are too good for you all! :imp:

Me with my “Can Do” attitude vs those with a “Can’t do, because I don’t approve of the Tories, Brexit, or my fellow workers of different opinion”. Polar opposites, as apparent from the regular venom I read of my posts on here.

The Leftist politicians WON’T rather than “Cannot” HELP YOU. Get over it, and stop supporting them already!
Every champagne socialist in the country - should be digging deep into their own millionaire funds to house, employ, and bail out people as and when they lose their jobs - because it is something they can do right now that has the potential to be in-place before our illustrious chancellor is ready with his 80% wages paid system being rolled-out.
But they won’t do this - because it is the nature of the very champagne socialist to only want to pick some middle-earner’s pocket to bail you out rather than their own.

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Winseer:
Shouldn’t people about to lose their livlihoods - actually get behind the government, and get pushed through at all speed any financial measures underway right now?

…Oh but the Tory Haters cannot - can they?

They won’t be letting Boris ■■■■ on them now that they are on fire, as the way they see it.

So… You’ve lost your job, and you don’t want nor approve of the government to help you out, unless it involves instant and free money…Something than be taken no-strings, and you can continue hating the very people that just granted you it…
What you’d rather have, is the government to resign, and hand over power to Jeremy Corbyn whilst he’s still the guy standing at the opposition dispatch box.

FFS The dole queues - are too good for you all! :imp:

Me with my “Can Do” attitude vs those with a “Can’t do, because I don’t approve of the Tories, Brexit, or my fellow workers of different opinion”. Polar opposites, as apparent from the regular venom I read of my posts on here.

The Leftist politicians WON’T rather than “Cannot” HELP YOU. Get over it, and stop supporting them already!
Every champagne socialist in the country - should be digging deep into their own millionaire funds to house, employ, and bail out people as and when they lose their jobs - because it is something they can do right now that has the potential to be in-place before our illustrious chancellor is ready with his 80% wages paid system being rolled-out.
But they won’t do this - because it is the nature of the very champagne socialist to only want to pick some middle-earner’s pocket to bail you out rather than their own.
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Get behind…what exactly ??How do you get behind any of the 2cheeks same arse cabal in any real sense of the word if still cleaving to some outmoded concept of representation in any real sense of the word?baffles me it really does. :open_mouth:

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the nodding donkey:
Being of a "here today, gone tomorrow " kind of mindset, my attitude to these kind of issues is rather blunt. If it kills me, it does. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. I just get on with life. As for not spreading it around, why not? My other half has been isolating g for over a week, and told me that she’s told by the hospital that she has the virus. I’ve been off work, and avoiding contact (which comes natural anyway…) for a week now. But I still go shopping most days, needs must. We are an invasive species, and very close to destroying the Earths ecosystem. One day, it’s going to be the big one. Might be this one. Might not. You’re not going to be around in 60 years to care anyway.

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+1
well said.
i sat outside 2 bans yesterday where they have white tape on the floor keeping everyone in the bank 2 meters away from each other and only allowing 2 people in the bank at the cashier counters…whereupon there were 20 or so people huddled together outside sheltering from the wind waiting to get in,so whats the point of bothering??
if they are going to bother then do it right instead of the usual british way of turning it into a cluster ■■■■ shambles.

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Tell you what, I’ve been looking upon all this in my usual ‘‘laid back casual couldn’t give a ■■■■’’ way, it’s how I am,.I take stuff in my stride and don’t over react to stuff.
I even had a day out round the pubs planned today before the ban was announced, despite the Govt advice, both me and my mate’s attitude was ‘‘Well if the pubs are empty at least we’ll get served quicker’’ :smiley:

However, I got home yesterday and my Mrs knowing what I am like recorded a Sky News feature on the state of the virus in Lombardi in Italy for me to see, as she’s been alarmed about it for a while now, and just tuts and shakes her head at my stance on it.
Bottom line …(it’s absolutely ■■■■ dire over there man., and they were like what we are now in status about 6 weeks ago as far as I remember it was. :open_mouth: )

Young people are dying of it, there are rows of coffins waiting to be cremated, every inch of space in the hospital including laundry rooms are being used as temporary wards, and the medical system over there is totally ■■■■ ed up with it.
No cure all they can do is make dying patients more comfortable.

Now I ain’t gonna join the doom merchants, and I ain’t going to get all hot and bothered and be a drama queen about it like some, but I am going to look at it a bit differently,.starting today by telling my Mam and Dad who are in their 80s, to stay in and that I won’t be around to see them for a while, (I could hear the cheers down the phone btw :laughing: ) and my Auntie who is the same age, who I had to reassure I was not abandoning and only a phone call away…I didn’t feel to great about myself tbh, but explained I meet lots of people in my job and did not want it on my conscience if I’d passed it on to them.

As I said, I ain’t gonna be a screaming drama queen about it, no need, but we deffo imo need to be careful.
I may have many faults but not admitting when I was wrong ain’t one of em. :neutral_face: