We have a thing going on at work where I still say ropes can be used to secure a load onto a cargo deck on a rigid or a trailer.
My oppo says I’m wrong and that only ratchet straps can be used…who’s right?
I did do a search on here but sorting the wheat from the chaff is time I dont have 
I’ve seen linkways pulling loads with roped and sheeted loads so I’m assuming yes.
Twoninety88:
We have a thing going on at work where I still say ropes can be used to secure a load onto a cargo deck on a rigid or a trailer.My oppo says I’m wrong and that only ratchet straps can be used…who’s right?
I did do a search on here but sorting the wheat from the chaff is time I dont have
unless the rope you use is test rated along with the hook being test rated then no you cant use a rope too secure your load
scotstrucker:
Twoninety88:
We have a thing going on at work where I still say ropes can be used to secure a load onto a cargo deck on a rigid or a trailer.My oppo says I’m wrong and that only ratchet straps can be used…who’s right?
I did do a search on here but sorting the wheat from the chaff is time I dont have
unless the rope you use is test rated along with the hook being test rated then no you cant use a rope too secure your load
I Got an email from where I get ratchet straps from say they now have rated rope in stock now.
scotstrucker:
Twoninety88:
We have a thing going on at work where I still say ropes can be used to secure a load onto a cargo deck on a rigid or a trailer.My oppo says I’m wrong and that only ratchet straps can be used…who’s right?
I did do a search on here but sorting the wheat from the chaff is time I dont have
unless the rope you use is test rated along with the hook being test rated then no you cant use a rope too secure your load
Nice one centurion.
pig pen:
scotstrucker:
Twoninety88:
We have a thing going on at work where I still say ropes can be used to secure a load onto a cargo deck on a rigid or a trailer.My oppo says I’m wrong and that only ratchet straps can be used…who’s right?
I did do a search on here but sorting the wheat from the chaff is time I dont have
unless the rope you use is test rated along with the hook being test rated then no you cant use a rope too secure your load
I Got an email from where I get ratchet straps from say they now have rated rope in stock now.
thats new i’ll have too ask our supplier if he has got that in stock.
I would like to see anyone try to do you for an insecure load that hasn’t fallen off!
Yes, you can use rope. There is no law to say you can’t. There is no law to say the rope has to be tested.
There are plenty of jobsworths, and profiteers that will tell you different.
Yes you’re still allowed the whole country over, 
APART from the A90 near Aberdeen 
VOSTAPO SAID SO!
tashlad666:
I would like to see anyone try to do you for an insecure load that hasn’t fallen off!
I agree tash,never had a load off in 34yrs on rd and 70% of my work was on flats.
regards dave.
a lot of years ago, i loaded playground rubber matting on pallets on a flatbed. loaded bottom layer, drip sheeted and roped it, loaded top layer , bottle sheeted it and roped it again using double dollies…
another driver took it from Carlisle up to Stirling, but threw it over at ■■■■■■■■■■■ roundabout (not there now).
I got a phone call telling me what had happened and asking if i had fastened it on properly…
I asked, " Did the load come off or did it all go over ■■"
the reply was , " it all went over "
my answer " must have been roped on tight enough then"
Trukkertone:
the reply was , " it all went over "
Not “it went all over” then… lol
how can they blame you if the load is secured to the trailer even when it tipped?
When did a Fly Sheet become a Drip Sheet? never heard that one before.
Dieseldog66:
When did a Fly Sheet become a Drip Sheet? never heard that one before.
Fly Sheet,Drip sheet and Flapper sheet are all descriptions of the narrow sheet that is/was put over the top of the roped over main sheets.This top sheet turned all the rain that landed on top of the load,the main sheets tended to become less waterproof over time with being roped over many times.However,the practice of using a Fly sheet worked very well at keeping the load dry and the Cardinal rule was you never roped over the Fly sheet for two reasons,1)you didn’t damage the Fly with the ropes and 2) air flow could pass between the underside of the fly thereby helping to shed the rain.Longwinded explanation,I know,but this was standard practice in haulage fleets of yesteryear ! Cheers Bewick. 
Bewick, I learnt all my roping and sheeting at J & W Watt…
A good education.
Trukkertone:
Bewick, I learnt all my roping and sheeting at J & W Watt…
A good education.
Aye,J & W W were a quality outfit in their day and they had some decent shunters at London Colney IIRC ! Cheers Bewick.
Unless carrying steel or concrete I trust ropes above straps, I would think a cross on the back from ropes is better than a strap 
When doing a rope and sheet job, WHY do people have 2 diagonal ropes on the front and about 8 on the rear? The only way the load would fall off the back is on acceleration. Under braking, or a sudden stop, the load will try to come forward. Oh , that is where the cab is, and the driver.
Thanks all for your imput, have we actually reached a conclusion as to the original question…is the use of ropes still a secure way of restraining a load under current VOSA guidelines?
SWEDISH BLUE:
When doing a rope and sheet job, WHY do people have 2 diagonal ropes on the front and about 8 on the rear? The only way the load would fall off the back is on acceleration. Under braking, or a sudden stop, the load will try to come forward. Oh , that is where the cab is, and the driver.
They should secure the load equally.
The load can move backwards for another reason. (Kinetic energy), Say a front stack of chipboard moves forward then stops, The stored energy will make it bounce backwards hitting the next pack and the next until something comes loose. I explained this in great detail to the management at Sonae in Liverpool, I even did demonstrations about what a driver should or shouldn’t do. The management then put this in writing to the jobsworths who then came into the yard to tell me i was doing it wrong.