i want to see catherine tate come on and say “driver cpc,what a load of old ■■■■”
tachograph:
dieseldave:
Surely, common sense says that somebody isn’t going to go through a list of cheap providers and then take the trouble to post them on here without being able to say what their experience of the provider was. That would be a spam post, and those get deleted without further discussion.I don’t see how it’s spam, a few posts above someone is informing people of cheap Mars Bars at Tesco, there’s no guarantee he’s tried them, but according to your logic if he hasn’t tried them it’s spam
A list of cheap courses would be there to save people money, not for any individual to make gain in any way shape of form, therefore how could it be spam
Sorry Dave, but unless I’m misunderstanding what you’ve said, your definition of spam is flawed
Yep, a poor choice of word on my part.
What I meant is that somebody could phone every provider in the JAUPT approved list and post up a kind of league table based on price alone.
I meant that such a list would be of very little value, almost to the point of being spamesque, to people looking for value for money.
I accept that there are those who will just go on price alone, and they’ll probably get what they pay for… a tutor reading from a book in the style of a newsreader. Just imagine… 7hrs of that would seem far longer. 
For those people who are fortunate to have an employer willing to pay for their DCPC courses, then they probably won’t care one way or the other. However, not all people are in that position.
Some of the remainder will still go on price alone, but others might see that (once they’ve bitten the bullet) there are courses which actually give them a portable and useful qualification, which of course costs a bit more.
I’d just point out there is quite some choice if people have a dig around, but basing a decision on price alone isn’t going to be everybody’s idea of value for money.
I remember when Mars Bars were 6d each.
dieseldave:
What I meant is that somebody could phone every provider in the JAUPT approved list and post up a kind of league table based on price alone.I meant that such a list would be of very little value, almost to the point of being spamesque, to people looking for value for money.
I accept that there are those who will just go on price alone, and they’ll probably get what they pay for… a tutor reading from a book in the style of a newsreader. Just imagine… 7hrs of that would seem far longer.
For those people who are fortunate to have an employer willing to pay for their DCPC courses, then they probably won’t care one way or the other. However, not all people are in that position.
Some of the remainder will still go on price alone, but others might see that (once they’ve bitten the bullet) there are courses which actually give them a portable and useful qualification, which of course costs a bit more.
I’d just point out there is quite some choice if people have a dig around, but basing a decision on price alone isn’t going to be everybody’s idea of value for money.
I agree that there are courses that probably give value for money and will enhance a drivers career prospects.
Unfortunately most basic classroom based DCPC courses do not fall into that category, so unless someone’s doing a course that will help his employment prospects such as ADR, Moffet, HIAb or whatever (which imo should automatically receive approval from JAUPT), or a course that will help him in a personal way such as first aid, they might as well save money and put it to something useful.
I’m not getting into a long winded debate about the pitfalls of the DCPC, but i’m sure that most of us realise that it offers very little to the road transport industry, and often even less to individual drivers.
I’ll stick to what I’ve been saying for some time, that unless a driver is doing a course that gives him/her a recognised and worthwhile qualification, and I would recommend doing that, they might as well go for the cheapest courses available.
Hence the idea of a list of cheap courses 
alamcculloch:
I remember when Mars Bars were 6d each.
I think that’s about what it was when I was a kid, strange how they seemed to taste better at 6d than they do at 60p 
tachograph:
I’ll stick to what I’ve been saying for some time, that unless a driver is doing a course that gives him/her a recognised and worthwhile qualification, and I would recommend doing that, they might as well go for the cheapest courses available.Hence the idea of a list of cheap courses
I’ll wholeheartedly agree with this ^^^^^
tachograph:
alamcculloch:
I remember when Mars Bars were 6d each.I think that’s about what it was when I was a kid, strange how they seemed to taste better at 6d than they do at 60p
You guys must be youngsters… they were 3d or 4d when I was a nipper.
Blimey… a whole tanner for a Mars bar. 
Guys, guys… nuff arguing about the technicalities of what is spam and what isn’t, just post the ■■■■■■■ cheapness on here and be done with it. It’s not rocket science ffs, you can tell by the poster who is spamming.
‘Tacho’, on you go. 
With site admin approval I would be willing to do a thread on cheap dcpc courses if agreed that it does not matter where the info is obtained
If I did it then then it would be made clear that the thread is simply for cheap courses which are all likely to be classroom based
I could use the template for the counties that the recommended lgv training school uses
Would links to the companies that supplied the courses be allowed or would just the course and the price with a contact number be the remit?
Or try and find a dcpc instructor who is a realist, and knows it’s a complete load of revenue raising ■■■■■■■■,… they are out there! you pay your money and get your card, everybodys happy 
, and you spend the 40+ hrs of your life doing something useful instead.
I’m a big believer in winning by appearing to lose, as some are planning to do.
Bring on the shocked and deluded self righteous compliant pro dcpc amongst us. Ooooh! But what if he gets caught?? 
alamcculloch:
I remember when Mars Bars were 6d each.
Yeh. I used to buy one with the sixpence left under my pillow from the tooth lost eating the last one.
robroy:
:idea: Or try and find a dcpc instructor who is a realist, and knows it’s a complete load of revenue raising ■■■■■■■■,… they are out there! you pay your money and get your card, everybodys happy
I’m a big believer in winning by appearing to lose, as some are planning to do.
Bring on the shocked and deluded self righteous compliant pro dcpc amongst us. Ooooh! But what if he gets caught??
You can imagine it…
“Ok, Mr Bloggs, we’ve reason to believe that you did actually obtain this here DCPC card by deception…
Item one: I believe you don’t know how to do paper tachos.
Item Two: You did wantonly cross hands on the steering wheel.
Item Three: You did knowingly take off your seatbelt and fail to put it back on when you shunted forward as part of your reverse routine.
Item Four: You failed to pick up the tab when dining with your instructor at the greasy spoon café.”
Bloggs: Well, I did the first aid bit no arguments. - I can prove it if you just lie down here, and let me put my tongue in your mouth.
Rob K:
Guys, guys… nuff arguing about the technicalities of what is spam and what isn’t, just post the ■■■■■■■ cheapness on here and be done with it. It’s not rocket science ffs, you can tell by the poster who is spamming.‘Tacho’, on you go.
We’re not arguing about the technicalities of spam, we were ‘discussing’ whether or not a thread to list cheap DCPC providers would be spam, and therefore against TN rules.
AS far as I can see we now agree that it would not be spam and therefore perfectly within the rules of these forums.
On your way Rob 
@ trubster - Sorry if I’ve taken your thread a bit off topic
Winseer:
robroy:
:idea: Or try and find a dcpc instructor who is a realist, and knows it’s a complete load of revenue raising ■■■■■■■■,… they are out there! you pay your money and get your card, everybodys happy
I’m a big believer in winning by appearing to lose, as some are planning to do.
Bring on the shocked and deluded self righteous compliant pro dcpc amongst us. Ooooh! But what if he gets caught??You can imagine it…
“Ok, Mr Bloggs, we’ve reason to believe that you did actually obtain this here DCPC card by deception…
Item one: I believe you don’t know how to do paper tachos.
Item Two: You did wantonly cross hands on the steering wheel.
Item Three: You did knowingly take off your seatbelt and fail to put it back on when you shunted forward as part of your reverse routine.
Item Four: You failed to pick up the tab when dining with your instructor at the greasy spoon café.”Bloggs: Well, I did the first aid bit no arguments. - I can prove it if you just lie down here, and let me put my tongue in your mouth.
Winseer mate, you’re laughing, but I’m at the stage in the job now where NOTHING shocks me anymore
Could some of you please understand that we are having a discussion about the price of chocolate coated confectionery.
alamcculloch:
Could some of you please understand that we are having a discussion about the price of chocolate coated confectionery.
So how much is a yorkie bar now then mate?
As the Yorkie came after decimilisation I would think it costs about seven shillings and sixpence.Remember there are not for girls.
what’s all this d malarkey you wrinklies are banging on about? mars bars were 20p in my day and 30p for a king size
scottythegeordie:
alamcculloch:
Could some of you please understand that we are having a discussion about the price of chocolate coated confectionery.So how much is a yorkie bar now then mate?
£1 for 3 at asda, me thinks a trip there is in order, 2 mentions in 1 post… (Cheapest supermarket for both yorkies and mars bars)
tachograph:
@ trubster - Sorry if I’ve taken your thread a bit off topic
Its not off topic, If you read between the lines, IF the chocolate bars were not so expensive then neither would the CPC courses… this is why companies are closing down.
(If anyone knows of a “Paper Based (Brown Envelope)” way to the DCPC Card please drop me a PM 
ROG:
With site admin approval I would be willing to do a thread on cheap dcpc courses if agreed that it does not matter where the info is obtainedIf I did it then then it would be made clear that the thread is simply for cheap courses which are all likely to be classroom based
I could use the template for the counties that the recommended lgv training school uses
Would links to the companies that supplied the courses be allowed or would just the course and the price with a contact number be the remit?
A list of ones that are brown envelope based would be much more useful please.
ROG:
With site admin approval I would be willing to do a thread on cheap dcpc courses if agreed that it does not matter where the info is obtainedIf I did it then then it would be made clear that the thread is simply for cheap courses which are all likely to be classroom based
I could use the template for the counties that the recommended lgv training school uses
Would links to the companies that supplied the courses be allowed or would just the course and the price with a contact number be the remit?
I don’t think links to the company would be necessary ROG, just company name and address/location, price per course and preferably any other information available, such as whether the price includes VAT/upload fee.
The idea isn’t to provide free advertising for training companies, just to let drivers know where they can save some money if they wish to.