Apologies, first off all. Another hours question

Fatboy slimslow:

PaulNowak:
I was always convinced that with working over a weekend, provided no more than 2 fell in the same fixed week, I could technically do 4 in my working week

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you can do four tens, :wink: sat, sun,min and Tuesday. You are correct. :grimacing: hence you can do six fifteens too! :laughing: without the need of split daily rests! Fri, sat, Sunday, mon, tues and Wednesday. :sunglasses: as long as you haven’t done any before and after the weekly rests. Technically/ legally yes you’re still correct. :smiley:

I’m not following that. Six consecutive fifteen hour days? Where are you fitting in your weekly rest?

Rjan:
the 4 on 4 off pattern is irrelevant.

Don’t recall saying it was. It was just an example.

its not sustainable on a regular rota

Don’t recall saying that either.

Kerragy:

Fatboy slimslow:

PaulNowak:
I was always convinced that with working over a weekend, provided no more than 2 fell in the same fixed week, I could technically do 4 in my working week

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you can do four tens, :wink: sat, sun,min and Tuesday. You are correct. :grimacing: hence you can do six fifteens too! :laughing: without the need of split daily rests! Fri, sat, Sunday, mon, tues and Wednesday. :sunglasses: as long as you haven’t done any before and after the weekly rests. Technically/ legally yes you’re still correct. :smiley:

I’m not following that. Six consecutive fifteen hour days? Where are you fitting in your weekly rest?

weekend tramper :grimacing: start fri, sat, sun, mom, tues and do a sixth shift Wednesday all legal reduce thurs/ 24 hours off and start shift Friday! :laughing: as long as you haven’t done any fifteens the previous week before a weekly rest and you’re not going to do another fifteen after the next weekly rest 6 X 15s and four tens all legal.

Fatboy slimslow:

Kerragy:
I’m not following that. Six consecutive fifteen hour days? Where are you fitting in your weekly rest?

weekend tramper :grimacing: start fri, sat, sun, mom, tues and do a sixth shift Wednesday all legal reduce thurs/ 24 hours off and start shift Friday! :laughing: as long as you haven’t done any fifteens the previous week before a weekly rest and you’re not going to do another fifteen after the next weekly rest 6 X 15s and four tens all legal.

Reduced daily rest periods are counted between weekly rest periods not counted by the fixed week, you cannot legally have 6 consecutive reduced daily rest periods without at-least a reduced weekly rest period in-between.

The rule is that you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between 2 weekly rest periods.
You can have 2 x 10 hour drive days in each fixed week.

tachograph:

Fatboy slimslow:

Kerragy:
I’m not following that. Six consecutive fifteen hour days? Where are you fitting in your weekly rest?

weekend tramper :grimacing: start fri, sat, sun, mom, tues and do a sixth shift Wednesday all legal reduce thurs/ 24 hours off and start shift Friday! :laughing: as long as you haven’t done any fifteens the previous week before a weekly rest and you’re not going to do another fifteen after the next weekly rest 6 X 15s and four tens all legal.

Reduced daily rest periods are counted between weekly rest periods not counted by the fixed week, you cannot legally have 6 consecutive reduced daily rest periods without at-least a reduced weekly rest period in-between.

The rule is that you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between 2 weekly rest periods.
You can have 2 x 10 hour drive days in each fixed week.

but fixed week is 00:00 hrs Monday til 00:00 Sunday midnight, so providing you’ve not done any tens prior/ and not going to do the following fixed week after you can do 4 tens on the bounce and six fifteens too without split daily rests. Sat, sun, mon and Tuesday. And the fifteens fri, sat, sun,mon, tues and Wednesday. Two different fixed weeks.

Thanks all. Nice to have been right all along. [emoji3]

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Fatboy slimslow:
you can do four tens, :wink: sat, sun,min and Tuesday. You are correct. :grimacing: hence you can do six fifteens too! :laughing: without the need of split daily rests! Fri, sat, Sunday, mon, tues and Wednesday. :sunglasses: as long as you haven’t done any before and after the weekly rests. Technically/ legally yes you’re still correct. :smiley:

But you can only reduce 3 times between weekly rests. So I don’t see how that’s legal?

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PaulNowak:

Fatboy slimslow:
you can do four tens, :wink: sat, sun,min and Tuesday. You are correct. :grimacing: hence you can do six fifteens too! :laughing: without the need of split daily rests! Fri, sat, Sunday, mon, tues and Wednesday. :sunglasses: as long as you haven’t done any before and after the weekly rests. Technically/ legally yes you’re still correct. :smiley:

But you can only reduce 3 times between weekly rests. So I don’t see how that’s legal?

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It’s not legal Paul, he’s mistaken.

I must admit, I thought I was bang on with my stuff on driving and working times. Not had an infringement since last November, so I thought I was doing it right.

Doesn’t take much to put a doubt in your mind.

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Fatboy slimslow:

tachograph:

Fatboy slimslow:

Kerragy:
I’m not following that. Six consecutive fifteen hour days? Where are you fitting in your weekly rest?

weekend tramper :grimacing: start fri, sat, sun, mom, tues and do a sixth shift Wednesday all legal reduce thurs/ 24 hours off and start shift Friday! :laughing: as long as you haven’t done any fifteens the previous week before a weekly rest and you’re not going to do another fifteen after the next weekly rest 6 X 15s and four tens all legal.

Reduced daily rest periods are counted between weekly rest periods not counted by the fixed week, you cannot legally have 6 consecutive reduced daily rest periods without at-least a reduced weekly rest period in-between.

The rule is that you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between 2 weekly rest periods.
You can have 2 x 10 hour drive days in each fixed week.

but fixed week is 00:00 hrs Monday til 00:00 Sunday midnight, so providing you’ve not done any tens prior/ and not going to do the following fixed week after you can do 4 tens on the bounce

If you work over the weekend you can do 4 consecutive 10 hour driving days, 2 in each week, no-ones disputing that.

Fatboy slimslow:
and six fifteens too without split daily rests. Sat, sun, mon and Tuesday. And the fifteens fri, sat, sun,mon, tues and Wednesday. Two different fixed weeks.

You cannot have 6 consecutive reduced daily rest periods without at-least a reduced weekly rest period in-between.

You can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods, so if you work Monday to Friday you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods Monday to Friday, if you work Friday to Wednesday you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between Friday and Wednesday.
The fixed week doesn’t come into the equation.

tachograph:
If you work over the weekend you can do 4 consecutive 10 hour driving days, 2 in each week, no-ones disputing that.

Which just proves to me that the “bullshyte bafflers” that came up with these regs succeeded in baffling themselves with their own bullshyte, which is perfectly ok because they’re not the ones who’ll get into trouble for not following the rules properly :unamused:

To have some rules fall within a fixed week and have other rules fall within weekly rests is nothing short of complete lunacy!

Reef:
Which just proves to me that the “bullshyte bafflers” that came up with these regs succeeded in baffling themselves with their own bullshyte, which is perfectly ok because they’re not the ones who’ll get into trouble for not following the rules properly :unamused:

To have some rules fall within a fixed week and have other rules fall within weekly rests is nothing short of complete lunacy!

I can’t argue with that.

Apparently if you work Monday to Friday it’s only safe to have 2 extended driving days, but if your working week crosses the weekend it’s safe to have 4 extended driving day.

The strange thing is that there’s a pen pusher or 2 somewhere in Brussels who thinks that makes sense :smiley:

Fatboy slimslow:
six fifteens too without split daily rests fri, sat, sun,mon, tues and Wednesday. Two different fixed weeks.

Spectacularly wrong :smiley: