I completed their Assessment yesterday and they have totally confused me regarding UTC time and Local Time on their vehicles
Some older vehicles do not have the correct Local Time but have UTC time and this needs to be reflected when you sign on for work
Anyone here work for Royal Mail please and can explain this to me
For UTC think greenwich mean time.
For local time think British summer time.
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El Deano:
For UTC think greenwich mean time.For local time think British summer time.
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Yeah whatever…but how do I deal with it please?
Kynszon:
El Deano:
For UTC think greenwich mean time.For local time think British summer time.
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Yeah whatever…but how do I deal with it please?
Until October, say you start at 7am then deal with it by saying ‘actually I’m starting at 6am in UTC time’. Say you finish at 4pm then you’ve finished at 3pm UTC time. That’s it, it just runs an hour behind until October then all your troubles will be over (until March).
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Lee1976:
Kynszon:
El Deano:
For UTC think greenwich mean time.For local time think British summer time.
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Yeah whatever…but how do I deal with it please?
Until October, say you start at 7am then deal with it by saying ‘actually I’m starting at 6am in UTC time’. Say you finish at 4pm then you’ve finished at 3pm UTC time. That’s it, it just runs an hour behind until October then all your troubles will be over (until March).
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We can predict that Jeremy Whine will be boring us to death with arguments about changing the clocks again. 
Just change the local time or deal with it. All tachographs are set to UTC
Lee1976:
Kynszon:
El Deano:
For UTC think greenwich mean time.For local time think British summer time.
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Yeah whatever…but how do I deal with it please?
Until October, say you start at 7am then deal with it by saying ‘actually I’m starting at 6am in UTC time’. Say you finish at 4pm then you’ve finished at 3pm UTC time. That’s it, it just runs an hour behind until October then all your troubles will be over (until March).
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So when doing a manual entry and asked the SIGNED OUT and SIGN IN times I just deduct an hour on each time?
Kynszon:
Lee1976:
Kynszon:
El Deano:
For UTC think greenwich mean time.For local time think British summer time.
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Yeah whatever…but how do I deal with it please?
Until October, say you start at 7am then deal with it by saying ‘actually I’m starting at 6am in UTC time’. Say you finish at 4pm then you’ve finished at 3pm UTC time. That’s it, it just runs an hour behind until October then all your troubles will be over (until March).
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So when doing a manual entry and asked the SIGNED OUT and SIGN IN times I just deduct an hour
if for some reason you can not adjust time on display, you need to forget about time on your watch/phone etc and do manual entry acording to UTC time…so time when you finish previous shift showed on display. Time is always in UTC, you can just change display…
OK I am totally confused and starting to wish I never even walked threw Royal Mail’s gates!
Can someone do me an example.
I am really past caring and I incur an infringement they will just ask me to leave, which can’t be a bad thing lol
Kynszon:
OK I am totally confused and starting to wish I never even walked threw Royal Mail’s gates!Can someone do me an example.
I am really past caring and I incur an infringement they will just ask me to leave, which can’t be a bad thing lol
Why not make is super simple for yourself?
If they insist on a manual entry - then simply get in the truck. If it’s some random UTC wagon then google on your phone UTC time now. You will know you started 20 mins earlier or something. So if it says 07.20 but rest til 07.00 and other work until 07.20. Just use your phone to tell you what UTC time is right now.
Kynszon:
OK I am totally confused and starting to wish I never even walked threw Royal Mail’s gates!Can someone do me an example.
I am really past caring and I incur an infringement they will just ask me to leave, which can’t be a bad thing lol
I believe, when you jump in vehicle showing local time, you do your normal thing (finish time as showed on your watch/phone when you finished). but when you have vehicle with UTC you obviously see wrong time on display so you deduct 1hr from local time when puting last night finish(display will show time when you took yr carf out that makes it easier), it wont let you put time past UTC with start time so yr manual entry will stop at actual UTC time so 1hrs backwards.
LL79:
Kynszon:
OK I am totally confused and starting to wish I never even walked threw Royal Mail’s gates!Can someone do me an example.
I am really past caring and I incur an infringement they will just ask me to leave, which can’t be a bad thing lol
I believe, when you jump in vehicle showing local time, you do your normal thing (finish time as showed on your watch/phone when you finished). but when you have vehicle with UTC you obviously see wrong time on display so you deduct 1hr from local time when puting last night finish(display will show time when you took yr carf out that makes it easier), it wont let you put time past UTC with start time so yr manual entry will stop at actual UTC time so 1hrs backwards.
Hallelujah…thank f**k for that…I understand 
And if part way through the shift i change vehicle to a local time machine it automatically puts it right
Kynszon:
LL79:
Kynszon:
OK I am totally confused and starting to wish I never even walked threw Royal Mail’s gates!Can someone do me an example.
I am really past caring and I incur an infringement they will just ask me to leave, which can’t be a bad thing lol
I believe, when you jump in vehicle showing local time, you do your normal thing (finish time as showed on your watch/phone when you finished). but when you have vehicle with UTC you obviously see wrong time on display so you deduct 1hr from local time when puting last night finish(display will show time when you took yr carf out that makes it easier), it wont let you put time past UTC with start time so yr manual entry will stop at actual UTC time so 1hrs backwards.
Hallelujah…thank f**k for that…I understand
And if part way through the shift i change vehicle to a local time machine it automatically puts it right
Yes because its only display showing local time(“+” sign), tacho always records in UTC.
Always take yr time with manual entry and confirm only when you 100%sure its right…
And dont worry, when time changes all our drivers call me to change time in their vehicles, even its only few click…they just dont want to learn…
Before you insert your card at start of your shift just change the clock time
Is easy to do .
On tacho use arrows select entry
Then vehicle
Then local.time. And change it.
Once changed it saves it. So doest need changing again unroll the clocks change
I can’t understand why some of the Royal Mail trucks are on UTC and some on local and they “have a list of them” is it something to do with first and second class post?
I would seriously question the bloke who told you this!
Just book all the hours you do, regardless of what the clock says.
The only time you should be getting confused - is when you’re asked to pop your card from one vehicle set to BST, and stick it in another one set to GMT, with the result that you get the “Overlap Error” upon inserting your card.