Here you go maybe someone can see something I’m not
I think this is what guts me , car is still very tidy , oh well
^^^
A MK 5 Cortina should be old enough to tax as historic surely?
K27:
Dav1d:
You know, reading the codes would be a good start.he says he is not savvy with tech stuff
If you know how to read codes, you’ll know it isn’t tech stuff.
It’s easier than doing plugs and points and is on par with plug a usb drive into your pc, then pressing a few buttons.
It really isn’t hard.
cav551:
^^^A MK 5 Cortina should be old enough to tax as historic surely?
Yep,it will be when I get the V5 changed,but I need to it to pass its MOT
Dav1d:
K27:
Dav1d:
You know, reading the codes would be a good start.he says he is not savvy with tech stuff
If you know how to read codes, you’ll know it isn’t tech stuff.
It’s easier than doing plugs and points and is on par with plug a usb drive into your pc, then pressing a few buttons.
It really isn’t hard.
Yep,I agree. I’m experienced in both. Some people don’t bond with codes and ecu palava.
dozy:
robroy:
robroy:
Asked my lad for you doze
Obviously can’t be precise without looking, but he gave some possibilities anyway0
^^^^^^;
Vacuum pump…Tbf doze I mentioned that to you 2 weeks ago, just off the top of my lads head.You probably did rob , thankyou , the problem is Ford wanted £90 to look at car , £250 to then remove vacuum pump & see what’s wrong& maybe fix , if the can’t fix then they said a new pump at £500 , and then No guarantee that would solve issue( that’s £800 , if that didn’t work then they said they’d look at cam belt at £1,500 to change , again no guarantee that would fix issue
I thought I paid original £90 to tell me what fault was ?
Do I buy a pump at £500 , change it myself then find I’ve still got a problem
That’s the issue I’ve no idea what the issue is , even Ford don’t appear to know , with all the tools you’d of thought to tell them what is the fault , there answer appears to be to keep changing parts at my expense until they do eventually hit on the issue
A few mates who know more about modern cars , electronics have had a look & they can’t fathom it ,thanks for help again
A cambelt change on one of these 3 cylinder engines is a really major operation, requiring fabulously expensive special tools and dismantling half the car to do it. The additional parts needed while it is apart don’t come cheap either.
Car traded in , mrs having new puma st , was having new fiesta st but soon as she saw blue colour with black pack she had to have it , I’m apparently having her fiesta , which with 300 hp ( mapped ) is fun , but every day I’m sure the ride will get tiresome , got 3 k for focus so lots 3 k over 3 yrs & 32,000 , so I’m ok with that
Thank everyone for help , much appreciated
K27:
cav551:
^^^A MK 5 Cortina should be old enough to tax as historic surely?
Yep,it will be when I get the V5 changed,but I need to it to pass its MOT
Any Mk of Cortina is MOT exempt obviously including Mk5.
cav551:
dozy:
robroy:
robroy:
Asked my lad for you doze
Obviously can’t be precise without looking, but he gave some possibilities anyway0
^^^^^^;
Vacuum pump…Tbf doze I mentioned that to you 2 weeks ago, just off the top of my lads head.You probably did rob , thankyou , the problem is Ford wanted £90 to look at car , £250 to then remove vacuum pump & see what’s wrong& maybe fix , if the can’t fix then they said a new pump at £500 , and then No guarantee that would solve issue( that’s £800 , if that didn’t work then they said they’d look at cam belt at £1,500 to change , again no guarantee that would fix issue
I thought I paid original £90 to tell me what fault was ?
Do I buy a pump at £500 , change it myself then find I’ve still got a problem
That’s the issue I’ve no idea what the issue is , even Ford don’t appear to know , with all the tools you’d of thought to tell them what is the fault , there answer appears to be to keep changing parts at my expense until they do eventually hit on the issue
A few mates who know more about modern cars , electronics have had a look & they can’t fathom it ,thanks for help againA cambelt change on one of these 3 cylinder engines is a really major operation, requiring fabulously expensive special tools and dismantling half the car to do it. The additional parts needed while it is apart don’t come cheap either.
I’d doubt that a vacuum pump issue would account for a misfiring engine under load.
Bearing in mind a too small engine being pressured within an inch of its life to create a laughable specific output.
The headgasket is the first and weakest link in that chain and doesn’t need to blow between any any water and/or water passages.
Between cylinders would be enough to explain it with no other effect on the cooling or lubrication system.
Cylinder compression and then leak down test is the cheapest place to start here.
Carryfast:
dozy:
robroy:
robroy:
Asked my lad for you doze
Obviously can’t be precise without looking, but he gave some possibilities anyway0
^^^^^^;
Vacuum pump…Tbf doze I mentioned that to you 2 weeks ago, just off the top of my lads head.I’d doubt that a vacuum pump issue would account for a misfiring engine under load.
Bearing in mind a too small engine being pressured within an inch of its life to create a laughable specific output.
The headgasket is the first and weakest link in that chain and doesn’t need to blow between any any water and/or water passages.
Between cylinders would be enough to explain it with no other effect on the cooling or lubrication system.
Cylinder compression and then leak down test is the cheapest place to start here.
Decisions, decisions, take advice from a highly qualified and experienced specialist, or an unqualified, inexperienced wannabe.
Hmmm, after a nanosecond of deep reflection I’ll go with the former.
dozy:
robroy:
robroy:
Asked my lad for you doze
Obviously can’t be precise without looking, but he gave some possibilities anyway0
^^^^^^;
Vacuum pump…Tbf doze I mentioned that to you 2 weeks ago, just off the top of my lads head.You probably did rob , thankyou , the problem is Ford wanted £90 to look at car , £250 to then remove vacuum pump & see what’s wrong& maybe fix , if the can’t fix then they said a new pump at £500 , and then No guarantee that would solve issue( that’s £800 , if that didn’t work then they said they’d look at cam belt at £1,500 to change , again no guarantee that would fix issue
I thought I paid original £90 to tell me what fault was ?
Do I buy a pump at £500 , change it myself then find I’ve still got a problem
That’s the issue I’ve no idea what the issue is , EVEN FORD DONT APPEAR TO KNOWwith all the tools you’d of thought to tell them what is the fault , there answer appears to be to keep changing parts at my expense until they do eventually hit on the issue
A few mates who know more about modern cars , electronics have had a look & they can’t fathom it ,thanks for help again
Ok doze, been talking to Mike (my lad) about this, when I mentioned the bit I highlighted he was salivating like a animal hunting for grub.
He loves a challenge, if you’d lived a bit nearer doze he would have looked at it and sorted it.
Pleased to hear you solved your problem although not as you wanted, bloody cars can be expensive when it comes to maintenance,.and with all the modern electronic crap in them today, they kinda have you over that proverbial barrel.
Carryfast:
I’d doubt that a vacuum pump issue would account for a misfiring engine under load.
Bearing in mind a too small engine being pressured within an inch of its life to create a laughable specific output.
The headgasket is the first and weakest link in that chain and doesn’t need to blow between any any water and/or water passages.
Between cylinders would be enough to explain it with no other effect on the cooling or lubrication system.
Cylinder compression and then leak down test is the cheapest place to start here.
Of course anybody is going to try the cheaper options as a process of elimination before going on to the more potentially expensive and involved jobs…I would have thought that would not need to be said.
Anyway CF I have mentioned to my boy (the highly qualified and experienced Ford specialist who works on these engines every day as a matter of routine) ,.that a random ex lorry driver off the internet disagrees with his initial diagnosis after spending 2 minutes on Google.
He was quite impressed to be fair, he has even gone as far as contacting his boss,.who has in turn been on to Ford Head Office Daventry…and I think there is a move going on to offer you a Consultancy Trouble shooter gig…
(No heavy lifting involved on the plus side fir you, but also sadly UK only, non European involvement)
Are you up for it?
Stay tuned for details.
Double posted.
Star down under.:
Decisions, decisions, take advice from a highly qualified and experienced specialist, or an unqualified, inexperienced wannabe.
Hmmm, after a nanosecond of deep reflection I’ll go with the former.
Great so replace the vacuum pump and timing belt ( the latter is a service consumable item anyway and should never be run to the point of failure ).All in an unsuccessful attempt to fix something that a cheap 15 minute compression/leak down test could have shown or ruled out.
Inexperienced wanabee indeed.
Ironically the truth is I much prefer driving cars than working on em.But I won’t flinch at pulling out the perfectly good 6.0 litre V12 engine that I put in my XJ12 series 3 because I think it will go even quicker with a capacity upgrade to 6.8.
Just like the individual throttle body distributor less ignition engine management and manual transmission.Or the X300 rear end conversion for the better outboard rear brakes, that I also did all just for the fun of driving it.
It helped growing up with an ex WW2 vet REME mechanic and engineer father in that regard.But you’re right I was never going to reach the level of his skills nor wanted to.
robroy:
Carryfast:
I’d doubt that a vacuum pump issue would account for a misfiring engine under load.
Bearing in mind a too small engine being pressured within an inch of its life to create a laughable specific output.
The headgasket is the first and weakest link in that chain and doesn’t need to blow between any any water and/or water passages.
Between cylinders would be enough to explain it with no other effect on the cooling or lubrication system.
Cylinder compression and then leak down test is the cheapest place to start here.Of course anybody is going to try the cheaper options as a process of elimination before going on to the more potentially expensive and involved jobs…I would have thought that would not need to be said.
Anyway CF I have mentioned to my boy (the highly qualified and experienced Ford specialist who works on these engines every day as a matter of routine) ,.that a random ex lorry driver off the internet disagrees with his initial diagnosis after spending 2 minutes on Google.
He was quite impressed to be fair, he has even gone as far as contacting his boss,.who has in turn been on to Ford Head Office Daventry…and I think there is a move going on to offer you a Consultancy Trouble shooter gig…
(No heavy lifting involved on the plus side fir you, but also sadly UK only, non European involvement)
Are you up for it?
Stay tuned for details.
The garage I traded it in at , took it out & did say if you hadn’t told us the car had a issue ( not a lot of choice with eml on ( thought I did read disconnecting the battery would clear it ) we would of known there was anything wrong , they couldn’t see what a cam belt would have to do with it , but did say they charge £1,500 to change one on the 1.0 engine , but they said they won’t be looking into fault as mileage it will be auctioned
This is Ford dealer but not my normal one so we will see how we get on , but hopefully as new car we won’t get any issues , I can’t complaini about old car , it went from 62,000 - 94,000 without a fault , even though 1.0 never oh felt short of power
Just a bit frustrating rob never got to bottom of what the issue was , did grantham - Oakham - Stamford - Grantham yesterday & as long as you bowl along at 60 it’s fine
Probably a 2 asmin fix for your lad , it’s nice for you rob to have that help in the family
robroy:
dozy:
robroy:
robroy:
Asked my lad for you doze
Obviously can’t be precise without looking, but he gave some possibilities anyway0
^^^^^^;
Vacuum pump…Tbf doze I mentioned that to you 2 weeks ago, just off the top of my lads head.You probably did rob , thankyou , the problem is Ford wanted £90 to look at car , £250 to then remove vacuum pump & see what’s wrong& maybe fix , if the can’t fix then they said a new pump at £500 , and then No guarantee that would solve issue( that’s £800 , if that didn’t work then they said they’d look at cam belt at £1,500 to change , again no guarantee that would fix issue
I thought I paid original £90 to tell me what fault was ?
Do I buy a pump at £500 , change it myself then find I’ve still got a problem
That’s the issue I’ve no idea what the issue is , EVEN FORD DONT APPEAR TO KNOWwith all the tools you’d of thought to tell them what is the fault , there answer appears to be to keep changing parts at my expense until they do eventually hit on the issue
A few mates who know more about modern cars , electronics have had a look & they can’t fathom it ,thanks for help againOk doze, been talking to Mike (my lad) about this, when I mentioned the bit I highlighted he was salivating like a animal hunting for grub.
He loves a challenge, if you’d lived a bit nearer doze he would have looked at it and sorted it.Pleased to hear you solved your problem although not as you wanted, bloody cars can be expensive when it comes to maintenance,.and with all the modern electronic crap in them today, they kinda have you over that proverbial barrel.
a decision I’m sure they’ll end up regretting.
Star down under.:
dozy:
That’s the issue I’ve no idea what the issue is , EVEN FORD DONT APPEAR TO KNOW
a decision I’m sure they’ll end up regretting.
To be fair replacing a vacuum pump and a timing belt then finding out that it’s not fixed the problem because it was a blown head gasket, or a valve issue etc etc, which could have been found by doing a simple cheap quick compression test first.
Assuming that it’s not a fault with the load map system which obviously ain’t going to be a nice simple throttle sensing one in this case.
Also bearing in mind the problem seems to have been updated from loss of power under load to a misfire and loss of power under load ?. Which seems to point to specific cylinder/s going down, under load, for whatever reason ?.
Going with the option of compression test first is generally the cheapest and simplest starting point given that info, even in the case of old school points and distributor.
As for the job offer I’m just counting down the months to collecting my pension next year not looking for a new career trouble shooting modern engines when older types were difficult enough in the case of engine load related issues.
Dozy , Edward, I saw a car similar to that outside number 3 or 37 Welwyn Close?
Did you see the film with Matt Damon and Christian Bale called Ford V Ferrari but the name was changed for different countries for legal reasons to Le Mans 66?
Bone Shaker:
Dozy , Edward, I saw a car similar to that outside number 3 or 37 Welwyn Close?
Did you see the film with Matt Damon and Christian Bale called Ford V Ferrari but the name was changed for different countries for legal reasons to Le Mans 66?
Excellent film.I actually preferred it to Steve McQueen’s Le Mans.The 427 powered GT40 was a legend like just about everything else powered by that motor.To be fair to Ferrari they were at a significant capacity disadvantage although the big pushrod V8 was probably half the cost .Before the days of restrictors which laughably ruined the idea of the fastest car wins.
The ending of the film was all too realistically tragic.