As title says. Cones and signs have appeared on the m56 from Manchester airport.
Starts at cargo centre junction ends just after the a 556 junction.
About a 4 mile section.
I know it gets busy there during rush hour.
Not like we have that anymore.
But I can’t see the point in it really to do such a short section
Thought they were banning them due to to many people dieing on them.
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Thought they were banning them due to to many people dieing on them.
The original trial was the M42 and the reason that is safe is that you pass an emergency lay-by every 10-15 seconds at 70mph. The reason the new ones aren’t safe is you pass an emergency lay-by up to about 45-60 seconds at 70mph. So maybe they are able to continue with smart motorway plans if they install the emergency lay-bys at the same intervals as the what was on the trial motorway.
DickyNick:
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Thought they were banning them due to to many people dieing on them.The original trial was the M42 and the reason that is safe is that you pass an emergency lay-by every 10-15 seconds at 70mph. The reason the new ones aren’t safe is you pass an emergency lay-by up to about 45-60 seconds at 70mph. So maybe they are able to continue with smart motorway plans if they install the emergency lay-bys at the same intervals as the what was on the trial motorway.
Like they’re doing at Clacket Lane on M25
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Wasn’t it at “local council discretion” wether to continue implemting these smart killer motorways, with some councils saying “No, we’ve spent the money - but we’ll prevent any further projects being started” on the whole?
It would be a bit of a political faux pas if some council anywhere decided just recently to PASS the planning say, for one of these to be done as a brand new scheme…
Don’t forget the whole reason that we didn’t simply get widened motorways with say, four lanes AND the hard shoulder - was because it was deemed “too expensive” to fork out full asking prices AND the compsulsory purchase premium on top for all the land involved to PROPERLY widen these motorways.
So… Former three lanes and hard shoulder - becomes four lanes, NO hard shoulder. No land to be purchased, money saved at a cost of ■■? lives over the decades to come. 
Whichever councilors - signed THAT off - Can’t we just vote them OUT first chance we get, regardless of party?
A lot of councils have a good main-three mixture of councillors, don’t forget. This is NOT a “Partisan Issue”, even if the local MP would try and steer it towards that…
“Oooh This Tory Controlled council - approved a new smart motoway, when we already know they kill people!”
Plenty of Labour safe-seat councillors - didn’t vote against - so that don’t cut no ice as far as I’m concerned. 
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DickyNick:
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Thought they were banning them due to to many people dieing on them.The original trial was the M42 and the reason that is safe is that you pass an emergency lay-by every 10-15 seconds at 70mph. The reason the new ones aren’t safe is you pass an emergency lay-by up to about 45-60 seconds at 70mph. So maybe they are able to continue with smart motorway plans if they install the emergency lay-bys at the same intervals as the what was on the trial motorway.
Like they’re doing at Clacket Lane on M25
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And Clockwise just after South Mimms.
If it’s anything like the m62 jcn 10-12, Covid-19 will be a foot note in history and Manchester Airport travellers will be grateful for this expansion in the road capacity [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji2957]
Then they will start building the second stage of HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester with a new station next to Manchester Airport !