Another Newbie update

Passed my class 2 almost a year ago and class 1 in March - maybe because I’m old(er) at 50 plus I’ve been almost continuously working via two agencies since April.

Mostly artics - first on milk tankers driving the “liners” up to the dairy to tip and collect cream. Lots of unsocial hours (hated the 2.30 am starts) and £85 or £90 for a 12 hour shift, but good experience (and luxurious new volvo 500s). Quite a lot of 15 hour shifts, and learning to juggle my 9 and 11 hour rest periods.

Have done several weeks of parcel trunking up to a “hub” overnight, sitting around for up to 4 hours waiting for the return load. Every now and then a box trailer full of mattresses up to an RDC, back on the bay and drop the trailer, pick up an empty trailer and return. Mixture of volvos mercs and scanias and a good selection of manuals and automatics and semi automatics to try out!

A number of “one off” jobs, some with rigids for a couple of firms delivering cardboard and packing cases, fridge units etc, and an introduction to curtainsides and strapping loads down. Some other short term jobs driving a selection of vans, much easier and paid better than the milk tankers!

Only one overnight run, so just the one night in the truck at a truckstop. Naively parked next to a fridge unit, but the drone lulled me to sleep and I overslept and nearly missed my fried breakfast.

Managed to get an assessment with a local company delivering building supplies, scania rigids on day time multidrops to sites and builders merchants, night time trunk runs in an artic, managing to scale up my limited knowledge of curtainsides to big ones! Tried day time multidrops in an artic but really found that tough (I posted on here about it and got some very sensible replies - decided to carry on working nights on the trunk runs instead but did some day time multi drops in a rigid to keep the company and agency happy).

Spell on sludge tankers collecting - well, ■■■■ I suppose - which was entertaining. Wouldn’t mind doing more of that although the thought of switching the wrong valve at the wrong time kept me on my toes.

In all about 48,000 kilometres in my diary driving trucks since April.

And now a six month contract to keep me going over the quiet period delivering dangerous chemicals. Had my ADR, so have been doing confined space training, escape kit, respirators etc. All good training (paid for by someone else) and experience on the CV.

It’s a bit daunting making a career change in your fifties from a well paid desk job. I had a good idea that drivers were badly paid and worked long hours and found out that it was true! Driving a milk tanker full of cream round the North Circular on less an hour than my daughter was getting for flipping burgers…

Found it quite challenging sometimes getting up in the small hours to go and do something new, again, and being given the keys to a different truck and told to get on with it. I’ve felt stupid a lot of the time when I haven’t known what to do or been slow or bad at something.

On the plus side other professional drivers have been brilliant. Almost every time I’ve asked a question or been out of my depth, whether on this forum or on the road or loading or unloading someone has come along and patiently helped, and told me that everyone has been there and not to feel bad about it.

Passing that test a year ago really was a first step, I’m still a newbie but still learning!

Great post, good insight into a newbie starting up :wink:

An excellent post. Good to see people sticking at it even when things get tough.

I’m also in a similar position, aged 48 and passed class C+E in March this year and class C in May last year. I’ve had a few ups and downs in that time but, Passing that test a year ago really was a first step, I’m still a newbie but still learning!
Every day in an artic is a new adventure. Happy days. :grimacing: :grimacing:

Excellent post, It’s great your getting loads of experience in different sphere’s . Happy Trucking :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

good luck in all your future ventures , glad your still enjoying yourself
jx

Hi kvin,

What a cracking post, nice one mate!!

It seems you’ve had a fair mix of trucks and jobs to have given you a good insight into the industry, so fair play to you for tackling such a learning curve. :smiley:

This made me smile:

kvin:
… the thought of switching the wrong valve at the wrong time kept me on my toes.

Added to that quite worrying possibility, there’s also a chance of the unexpected on that job…

  • a burst hose
  • a coupling failure
  • a blown gasket

any of which would leave you… err… not smelling of roses. :open_mouth:

This also caught my interest:

kvin:
… delivering dangerous chemicals. Had my ADR, so have been doing confined space training, escape kit, respirators etc. All good training (paid for by someone else) and experience on the CV.

Firms don’t usually invest in that kind of training without good reason, so could you say what you were carrying please? cos I’m genuinely interested.
The confined space training is a bit special, so I’d like to ask what the employer had in mind please?

kvin:
I’ve felt stupid a lot of the time when I haven’t known what to do or been slow or bad at something.

That shouldn’t make you feel stupid when you consider that nobody is born with the necessary skills to do the jobs you’ve done, so everybody has had a first day at a job. A person who hasn’t made a mistake, hasn’t made anything.

Actually, I’d say you now count as fairly experienced, cos there are drivers who have been driving for years who haven’t done some of the things that you’ve done. :wink:

Great, informative post there Kvin :smiley:

When I first joined the forum I read your initial ‘newbie’ posts with great interest, learning as much as I could from your experiences as I, to, am a 50+ newbie.

Must admit I had wondered how you were getting on as you hadn’t been writing quite so much on here in the last few months.

Keep up the good work sir! I’m sure many looking to join this industry will find your experiences of great value and an excellent, informative read.

happy new year sir!

Tazbug

Thanks for the comments! I lurk on the forum and read it regularly as it’s interesting to hear about others’ experiences.

The ADR job is delivering chlorine gas in steel bottles. Not nice stuff, and it’s surprising how much of it is travelling up and down the country in trucks with (fairly discrete) orange plates! Used in water supplies, swimming pools, soft drinks (!), steel making and quite a few other applications. The confined space and breathing apparatus training come in when offloading to gas stores, you need a safe system of work and that can include things like if you’re more than 6 feet from the door you should have breathing apparatus available (though in reality I think running like hell in to wind and preferably uphill appeals more, given that you’ve still got exposed skin even if you get the kit on!!)

On the plus side it’s regular day time work with a good mix of driving (carefully) and drops, and I get to enjoy the faces of motorists in traffic jams who’ve just read the labels on the bottles. I’ll do it for a few months and then see if I can get a tanker job, as that’s been the job I’ve most enjoyed…

Still lurking on this forum, thought I’d add another update… the ADR job is still ongoing, taking a little 7.5 tonner up and down stupidly small country lanes delivering gas bottles. Fairly physical work as the bottles weight 105kg each, so have to be “spun” and care taken not to drop them on their valves! Spend a lot of the time in the truck pulling in the mirrors before they get whacked by trees gate posts and walls…driving a small truck may not be cool but it’s much less stressful than wondering it you can turn your trailer round as this turns almost anywhere.

The job is only taking two to three days a week so now I’m getting back on to driving sludge tankers on the other days, picking up 14 - 15000 litres of sewage waste from small sewage works (more country lanes and tight spaces) to take to bigger works for treatment. Bit more interesting to drive as they are much bigger and have 4 over 4 gearboxes and taking them up steep hills when fully loaded means you need to get the gear change right - or it’s stop and start all over again - and some of the hills are tight but you daren’t stop in case you can’t get going again.

Eearly starts - usually 6 am on the sludge, but finished by around 4 so plenty of time to get home, wash the overalls(!) and do other things in the evenings. It pays about the same as night trunking, slightly fewer hours but much better than doing nights. The sludge tankers can be messy - the pipes aren’t that clean and you may have to hold them between your knees to get them on, some of the jobs involve dipping a pipe in to an open sludge tank and stirring it about to break the crust and get it moving, even pumping it back in to break the stuff up, and perhaps that’s not the time to eat lunch…but so long as you wear overalls and gloves and don’t splash too much it’s ok! And you get out to see the countryside and get all that fresh air (well as long as you walk a few yards upwind of the tanks), see lots of wildlife, loads of buzzards deer foxes and pheasants etc, most of it alive and out of the open sludge ponds though quite a few ducks swimming in the treated sewage ponds. Hey I could become a wildlife enthusiast.

Still beats the hell out of being an office bod and dealing with clients, loading a tanker full of ■■■■ is still better than spending hours on the phone to estate agents (I can still go home and tell the missus I’ve been dealing with crap all day).

ADR under EU regs and sewage under UK domestic regs ?

ROG:
ADR under EU regs and sewage under UK domestic regs ?

I’ve been told to follow EU regs on the sewage tankers - I wonder if that is because they are more stringent (especially on breaks) so if you comply with them you’ll be within the UK domestic regs and there can’t be any argument…