Best job in the world, 4 - 5 ton a week for sitting on your arse - HGV Driver.
Worst job in the world, £49 for sitting on your arse at home - Dole money.
If your not happy with wages & conditions get out.
Thousands of HGV Drivers in this country are/have made a good living out of lorry driving.
Wake up smell the coffee & enjoy your life.
Roymondo:
According to an Oxford University study a few years ago (2002), lorry drivers come in at number 10 in the UK, after Fishermen, Seafarers, Aircraft Flight Deck officers, Railway workers, Scaffolders, Roofers & Glaziers, Forestry workers, Quarry & Mine workers and Dockers. They were only looking at deaths, not injuries though.In looking at these things though, you have to remember that although a fair few lorry drivers are killed at work each year, there are quite a lot of us to start with (hence the somewhat surprising appearance of pilots etc on the list - not many are killed, but there are relatively few of them anyway.
Since the start of the invasion of Afganistan about the same number of soldiers have been killed as hgv drivers. 450 odd. Yes there’s more hgv drivers. Just saying.
I’m not sure why people just look at the bottom line and say £500 is ok…regardless of the hours. The hourly rate MUST be considered.
Yes, driving can still offer a chap with no other skills the opportunity to earn 30k+ if he goes tramping, and that’s great, but don’t tell me £7-50 is good money these days.
Truth is, we all have own reasons for doing this daft job. Mine’s that it gives me the ability to work 3 or4 days a week, when it suits me. That’s why I stick it. I would struggle to find a part time job in the motor/motorcycle industry where I could do that.
The stone firm on our Industrial Estate can’t find a class 2 driver/yardie. Its not a demanding job, don’t go too far, yes the truck is a heap, but they only wanted you from 0800-1600 and were going to pay 22k… zero replies to their advert!!!
I’m sure someone will correct me but isn’t that getting on for £10.50 per hour?
F-reds:
The stone firm on our Industrial Estate can’t find a class 2 driver/yardie. Its not a demanding job, don’t go too far, yes the truck is a heap, but they only wanted you from 0800-1600 and were going to pay 22k… zero replies to their advert!!!
£22,000 after tax is £1,457 net monthly salary. How could anybody pay a mortgage or rent, run a car (in order to get to work) and have anything left over to have any quality of life on that money?
In an earlier post you suggested that I was “greedy” when I said that I wouldn’t be prepared to employ somebody paying them £2,100 net monthly because there wouldn’t be enough margin in it for me to make it worth my while.
Make your mind up, will you?
waynedl:
We require an experienced Class I HGV Wagon Driver.
A Class I Licence is essential with at least one years experience, you also must be a minimum of 25years old for our insurance. You must hold a Full Drivers CPC
Class I HGV Wagon Driver - Distance WorkThe job is delivering palletised goods within the UK
The position is to cover distance with nights out and early starts.
A clean licence is desirable.The wage structure is below:
£328.50 guaranteed to 45 hours - £7.30/hr
£9.45 / HR OT - Not even time + half of the original poxy wage
£20.00 Night Out
£5.00 4am Start
£4.00 5am Start
im afraid sadly this is becoming the norm…and if you wouldnt work for it theres a long line that would and employers no this, theres ■■■■ taking in most jobs now…but some really do take the ■■■■
F-reds:
The stone firm on our Industrial Estate can’t find a class 2 driver/yardie. Its not a demanding job, don’t go too far, yes the truck is a heap, but they only wanted you from 0800-1600 and were going to pay 22k… zero replies to their advert!!!I’m sure someone will correct me but isn’t that getting on for £10.50 per hour?
Assuming it’s 5 days a week, it’s almost £11.30 an hour. If it’s 6 days a week then it’s £9.40 an hour.
Roymondo:
Assuming it’s 5 days a week, it’s almost £11.30 an hour. If it’s 6 days a week then it’s £9.40 an hour.
It doesn’t matter how much an hour it is, the question is “Does it pay enough to cover the rent?”
Harry Monk:
Roymondo:
Assuming it’s 5 days a week, it’s almost £11.30 an hour. If it’s 6 days a week then it’s £9.40 an hour.It doesn’t matter how much an hour it is, the question is “Does it pay enough to cover the rent?”
I wasn’t making any judgement on that - simply correcting the calculation of the hourly rate (as implicitly invited by the OP).
But why does it have to cover the rent anyway? What if the person concerned is not the main breadwinner, and simply wants a regular 37.5 hour week with reasonable money that means they can still collect the kids after school each day? Maybe they already have a lucrative part-time evening job that they don’t want to give up? Maybe they already own their own home and £1400 a month will cover their modest requirements?
My eldest earns significantly less than £22k, yet he is managing to buy his own place (new build, shared ownership scheme) and keeps up the payments on a shiny new VW Polo while still doing the stuff that young men of his age do.
Roymondo:
My eldest earns significantly less than £22k, yet he is managing to buy his own place (new build, shared ownership scheme) and keeps up the payments on a shiny new VW Polo while still doing the stuff that young men of his age do.
I’m sure that you’d agree that this is a car crash waiting to happen. What will he do when interest rates start moving upwards?
Harry Monk:
F-reds:
The stone firm on our Industrial Estate can’t find a class 2 driver/yardie. Its not a demanding job, don’t go too far, yes the truck is a heap, but they only wanted you from 0800-1600 and were going to pay 22k… zero replies to their advert!!!
£22,000 after tax is £1,457 net monthly salary. How could anybody pay a mortgage or rent, run a car (in order to get to work) and have anything left over to have any quality of life on that money?
In an earlier post you suggested that I was “greedy” when I said that I wouldn’t be prepared to employ somebody paying them £2,100 net monthly because there wouldn’t be enough margin in it for me to make it worth my while.
Make your mind up, will you?[/.million people in Uk work for much less money.plenty people have just 12-15k per years.and same mustpay rent,buy cay and more.drivers wages can be betters,but still GOOD.we some time work longshift,but we have from 45 min till 3-4Hours break.but inanother job people work 8 hours with 30 min break.as well it is rumors who all drivers work 15 hours.plenty drivers work just 8-10 hours.
I never cared what terms were used to describe how my take home pay was worked out, a tenner a day and the rest in bonuses or night out money, hourly plus overtime, what does it matter?
As Harry has said, it’s what goes in the bank that matters, if it’s enough to pay the bills, live comfortably and have a bit left over to save, then I’m happy.
Some jobs I’ve had paid extremely well, others not as much, but offered different benefits, I just cut my cloth accordingly, sometimes I went to Vegas, sometimes Majorca and sometimes I worked my holiday.
I expect a decent wage for doing a decent job and with that comes the realisation that the harder I work, the more I earn, I don’t have a problem with that 
its a rare cleaning job that pays 7.30 per hour. most unusual
Harry Monk:
Roymondo:
My eldest earns significantly less than £22k, yet he is managing to buy his own place (new build, shared ownership scheme) and keeps up the payments on a shiny new VW Polo while still doing the stuff that young men of his age do.I’m sure that you’d agree that this is a car crash waiting to happen. What will he do when interest rates start moving upwards?
Same as my parents did in the 70s and same as I did in the 90s - cut coat according to cloth. But if our imaginary employee was to take the quarry job advertised, he would at least still have the option of doing a bit of bar work or similar on the quiet to bolster his income - unlike the bloke who takes a near NMW driving job that requires him to be at his day job 70 hours a week (including his breaks) just to achieve £22k.
Harry you appear to be mixing your “Fred’s” up
According to the other ones avatar he is ALOT older than me 
I was just pointing out that I there was a 22k for 40 hours a week near me and no takers. 22k wouldn’t do me, but as you say, I have a mortgage, car, missus, and like 2 holidays a year.
But 5 years ago I was on that salary for a lot more hours, more like 50 over 6 days. I lived pretty well just in a different way.
There would also be nothing to stop them topping up that wage with a Saturday here or there elsewhere. Plenty of time left in the week if someone wanted to flog their ■■■ into the ground…
F-reds:
Harry you appear to be mixing your “Fred’s” up
You are right, apologies. Bedtime for tired soldiers! 
Roymondo:
My eldest earns significantly less than £22k, yet he is managing to buy his own place (new build, shared ownership scheme) and keeps up the payments on a shiny new VW Polo while still doing the stuff that young men of his age do.
I earn more than that & I can’t afford a house or a brand new car, your eldest must be really good with money 
Pimpdaddy:
Roymondo:
My eldest earns significantly less than £22k, yet he is managing to buy his own place (new build, shared ownership scheme) and keeps up the payments on a shiny new VW Polo while still doing the stuff that young men of his age do.I earn more than that & I can’t afford a house or a brand new car, your eldest must be really good with money
Start saving by shopping at Tesco…Every little helps
F-reds:
Harry you appear to be mixing your “Fred’s” upAccording to the other ones avatar he is ALOT older than me
I was just pointing out that I there was a 22k for 40 hours a week near me and no takers. 22k wouldn’t do me, but as you say, I have a mortgage, car, missus, and like 2 holidays a year.
But 5 years ago I was on that salary for a lot more hours, more like 50 over 6 days. I lived pretty well just in a different way.
There would also be nothing to stop them topping up that wage with a Saturday here or there elsewhere. Plenty of time left in the week if someone wanted to flog their ■■■ into the ground…
Well spotted ‘young man’!
Harry, I wasn’t having a go. I was merely pointing out that a profit is a profit and all that. If you don’t consider it worthwhile doing it for that margin then thats up to those considering doing so.
As has been said, if you’ll put £2100 in my bank netto guaranteed each month I’ll come and work fir you!
newmercman:
Start saving by shopping at Tesco…Every little helps
I can’t afford the therapy I need after delivering to those monkeys let alone shop there…
slightly off topic how about thousands of carers who look after there mum and dad son daughter on roughly £1.10 a hour carers allowance of £59.87 a week for 35 hours…with top up of income support roughly £103.00 a week sure does take the ■■■■ that one…
try pay your morgage shopping have a life on that 
im in that position and im not on a pity potty the tax payer should pay this etc either im currently in that situation watching my mum crumble who has dementia sure i could stick her in a home at £700 a week council run) roughly £1600+ private a week but i have a heart…and shes got more of a life being at home than a care home i dont want medals people saying oh your brave all i want is dignity and respect for my mum something sadly this goverments elderly policys fall far short.
i live off carers allowance and a bit of savings ive worked since i left school and rather go cutting grass than go sign on the dole yes its my choice i packed in hgv driving to do it…if the carers of this country all stopped it would bring this country to its knees…i no somebody who sold there parents house to pay for a care home for there dad after 2 years the money ran out…