London again
Another tipper ffs!
rambo19:
Another tipper ffs!
looks like a roll on roll off
but read this little snip
It is understood both the lorry, said to be a waste truck, and cyclist were travelling down Fleet Street and turning left into Farringdon Road at the time of the crash. One witness, who asked not to be named, said he thought the bike had been travelling along the inside of the Squibb Group truck.
would he have seen him, you never know
going by the way they ride down there, i’m surprised accidents aren’t more common.
There should be more blind spot awareness among cyclists and other road users as all too often a cyclist/motorcyclist has entered my blind spot oblivious to the danger they are in, road safety needs to be in the minds of all road users, not just drivers.
mickyblue:
rambo19:
Another tipper ffs!looks like a roll on roll off
but read this little snip
It is understood both the lorry, said to be a waste truck, and cyclist were travelling down Fleet Street and turning left into Farringdon Road at the time of the crash. One witness, who asked not to be named, said he thought the bike had been travelling along the inside of the Squibb Group truck.
would he have seen him, you never know
Simply the driver should have seen him.It was a rigid vehicle and with proper mirror checks and observation there should not have been a problem.The problem a lot of the time nobody will stop or slow down and that applies to both parties.RUSH RUSH RUSH with bad attitude and no consideration for anyone.
As I have said before if you are in London or any other city try standing on a corner and watch how poor some drivers are with their observation and also the aggression is appalling at times again from both parties.
There’s a big problem with 2-wheeled vehicles and trucks taking the same corner together…the person on the 2-wheeler generally has no idea of the extent to which the truck ‘goes in wide and comes out tight.’
I had a tour around a Cemex 8x4 tipper with all the ‘London’ stuff on it recently.
Including 7 cab mirrors, side proximity beepers, side and rear vision CCTV live monitoring and recording (made by PM weighers), external voice warnings and side under-run guards with warning notices on them.
Very impressive, but it seems a truck with all this stuff on has been involved with at least one cycle fatality in London. The recording equipment on the truck was apparently able to absolve the driver of any blame: the accident was primarily down to a road layout that placed the cyclist in a dangerous position.
jobseeker:
going by the way they ride down there, i’m surprised accidents aren’t more common.
There should be more blind spot awareness among cyclists and other road users as all too often a cyclist/motorcyclist has entered my blind spot oblivious to the danger they are in, road safety needs to be in the minds of all road users, not just drivers.
Stop using the blind spot as an excuse.The blind spot on a rigid is minimal and a cyclist should not be missed if mirrors are used correctly.
albion1971:
Simply the driver should have seen him.It was a rigid vehicle and with proper mirror checks and observation there should not have been a problem.The problem a lot of the time nobody will stop or slow down and that applies to both parties.RUSH RUSH RUSH with bad attitude and no consideration for anyone.
As I have said before if you are in London or any other city try standing on a corner and watch how poor some drivers are with their observation and also the aggression is appalling at times again from both parties.
Take your sanctimonious, superiority complex-laden and know-it-all attitude to everything truck and driver related and stick it up your arse.
I put my house on you either being or having been one of these drivers that preaches to everyone else in an RDC waiting room completely oblivious to the fact that they are all doing their best to quietly slide along the seat away from you.
I have followed cyclists along the main carriageway when there have been cycle paths or lanes. Obviously some of them feel it is beneath them to use such facilities.
It is always sad to read about accidents but they will continue to happen because we are human and make mistakes.
How about the lorry ran the cyclist over because he was so busy looking in his mirrors for a suicidal self propelled lunatic, that he forgot to look out of his windscreen and went straight over the top of the bloke 
Unless you know the full facts it could be the fault of either party 
Even if the lorry did mow the bloke down, what kind of [zb]wit would put themselves in such a dangerous position anyway
If I was riding a bike, there is no way I would go up the inside of any vehicle as we approached a left turn…just in case
Albion’s got a point though. Too often, there seems to be the mindset that "all the other road users should know exactly how much room a truck needs / where a truck’s blind spots are / how much ■■■ the driver of the truck has had recently and what sort of a mood he’s in because of it … " and so on. The reality is that we drivers are the ones operating the dangerous vehicle and we should be driving them responsibly. No one’s in a better position than the driver to know that there’s a blind spot down one side after all, and instead of using it as an excuse, we should be using it as a reason to watch the nearside mirrors almost constantly. There’s no reason not to spot a cyclist down the inside of a rigid vehicle if you’re watching your mirrors properly.
Another cyclist suicide.
I’m sorry but how can a driver get the blame of this?
‘He should have seen him’ is utter rubbish.
I have 7 mirrors on my vehicle and I nearly killed a cyclist a couple of weeks ago who ended up under my vehicle and how did the accident happen?
He didn’t look over his shoulder and cut out in front of me and there was not a thing I could do.
The sooner these vermin are off the road or have some sort of registration/insurance the better.
Oh and my work has had to pay thousands to repair the damage to the vehicle because of a cyclist!
This is such a recurring problem that I personally draw the conclusion that most cyclists (I’m thinking more the ones that wear a helmet/hi vis etc) know of the dangers involving HGV’s but they adopt a ‘it can never happen to me’ attitude. All it really does is help them get to sleep at night and is much easier for them to do that than to change their ways.
newmercman:
Even if the lorry did mow the bloke down, what kind of [zb]wit would put themselves in such a dangerous position anywayIf I was riding a bike, there is no way I would go up the inside of any vehicle as we approached a left turn…just in case
No sane person would, but I have spent plenty of time sitting outside the Euston Tap while enjoying their fine beers and also taking advantage of the good view it gives of passing traffic on Euston Road, including Borismasters turning left into the bus station there and the attendant cyclist problem.
There appears to be two kind of these cyclists who do drive up the nearside of a turning vehicle. The militant group, who are determined to do it ‘because it’s their right’ regardless of the mortal danger they put themselves in and probably upload videos of perceived slights from other road users to YouTube.
The others are the ones who genuinely have zero common sense whatsoever, to the extent that they have absolutely no idea that they’re putting themselves in a position which might lead them to finishing up under a bus.
I don’t know which of the two groups is the most worrying.
newmercman:
How about the lorry ran the cyclist over because he was so busy looking in his mirrors for a suicidal self propelled lunatic, that he forgot to look out of his windscreen and went straight over the top of the blokeUnless you know the full facts it could be the fault of either party
Even if the lorry did mow the bloke down, what kind of [zb]wit would put themselves in such a dangerous position anyway
If I was riding a bike, there is no way I would go up the inside of any vehicle as we approached a left turn…just in case
I agree completely,
GasGas:
There’s a big problem with 2-wheeled vehicles and trucks taking the same corner together…the person on the 2-wheeler generally has no idea of the extent to which the truck ‘goes in wide and comes out tight.’I had a tour around a Cemex 8x4 tipper with all the ‘London’ stuff on it recently.
Including 7 cab mirrors, side proximity beepers, side and rear vision CCTV live monitoring and recording (made by PM weighers), external voice warnings and side under-run guards with warning notices on them.
Very impressive, but it seems a truck with all this stuff on has been involved with at least one cycle fatality in London. The recording equipment on the truck was apparently able to absolve the driver of any blame: the accident was primarily down to a road layout that placed the cyclist in a dangerous position.
Seems everything is been done to aid the driver to see and detect the cyclists, seen so many trucks and buses with a sticker on them saying “Cyclists do not pass on this side”. I’m not a cyclist basher, but I’m begging to wonder, these instances always involve two road users, trucks and cyclist, I think its time for some sort of cycling proficiency test before people can use bicycles in heavily congested built up areas. What more can be done, How many more mirrors, stickers and sensors can they fix to trucks? I’m not talking about this specific case, but would some sort of law, a law which make it mandatory to wear protective equipment when cycling help? Does anyone know how many of these cyclists who died were wearing helmets, and if they weren’t would it have helped?
Olog Hai:
newmercman:
Even if the lorry did mow the bloke down, what kind of [zb]wit would put themselves in such a dangerous position anywayIf I was riding a bike, there is no way I would go up the inside of any vehicle as we approached a left turn…just in case
No sane person would, but I have spent plenty of time sitting outside the Euston Tap while enjoying their fine beers and also taking advantage of the good view it gives of passing traffic on Euston Road, including Borismasters turning left into the bus station there and the attendant cyclist problem.
There appears to be two kind of these cyclists who do drive up the nearside of a turning vehicle. The militant group, who are determined to do it ‘because it’s their right’ regardless of the mortal danger they put themselves in and probably upload videos of perceived slights from other road users to YouTube.
The others are the ones who genuinely have zero common sense whatsoever, to the extent that they have absolutely no idea that they’re putting themselves in a position which might lead them to finishing up under a bus.
I don’t know which of the two groups is the most worrying.
Darwinism will take care of the latter…
The first group are the more worrying, there seem to be a lot of self righteous people out there. Cyclists as you describe, non smokers, vegetarians, gay/lesbians etc, they seem to be a permanent crusade, the popularity of the head cams on youtube has seemed to encourage it in the case of cyclists…and lorry drivers too judging by some of the complete non events that seem to get up lorry driver’s noses that I’ve seen recently from their dash cam videos 
Ah, a bit of Trucknet banter. I’m sure the TNUK CSI are looking into it for the London Met.
It’s a shame that the driver killed the bloke on the bike because he will most likely go down for it, and on top of that there’s the burden of killing someone. Poor fella.
albion1971:
mickyblue:
rambo19:
Another tipper ffs!looks like a roll on roll off
but read this little snip
It is understood both the lorry, said to be a waste truck, and cyclist were travelling down Fleet Street and turning left into Farringdon Road at the time of the crash. One witness, who asked not to be named, said he thought the bike had been travelling along the inside of the Squibb Group truck.
would he have seen him, you never know
Simply the driver should have seen him.It was a rigid vehicle and with proper mirror checks and observation there should not have been a problem.The problem a lot of the time nobody will stop or slow down and that applies to both parties.RUSH RUSH RUSH with bad attitude and no consideration for anyone.
As I have said before if you are in London or any other city try standing on a corner and watch how poor some drivers are with their observation and also the aggression is appalling at times again from both parties.
Why did the cyclist put himself in that position then?
Olog Hai:
newmercman:
Even if the lorry did mow the bloke down, what kind of [zb]wit would put themselves in such a dangerous position anywayIf I was riding a bike, there is no way I would go up the inside of any vehicle as we approached a left turn…just in case
No sane person would, but I have spent plenty of time sitting outside the Euston Tap while enjoying their fine beers and also taking advantage of the good view it gives of passing traffic on Euston Road, including Borismasters turning left into the bus station there and the attendant cyclist problem.
There appears to be two kind of these cyclists who do drive up the nearside of a turning vehicle. The militant group, who are determined to do it ‘because it’s their right’ regardless of the mortal danger they put themselves in and probably upload videos of perceived slights from other road users to YouTube.
The others are the ones who genuinely have zero common sense whatsoever, to the extent that they have absolutely no idea that they’re putting themselves in a position which might lead them to finishing up under a bus.
I don’t know which of the two groups is the most worrying.
A friend of mine used to make the point, “it’s no good being in the right if you are dead”.
This also applies to the pedestrians that believe that if they step on to a crossing all traffic will stop no matter how close it is.