I inquired about a job today To find out a few details. The transport manager explained to me that they work an annualised system does this happen alot,some weeks you may work 60 hours some 30 as long as you do your hours. Never heard of it before?
Yes, we’re on this and its crap! Much better to be on a guaranteed 40 or whatever hours per week. Its purely there to benefit the company not you. Even when you have a short week you know that you will pay for it later. 
Either love it or hate, was on annualised hours for 9 years. It’s a very American concept so is the employer got any ties to the states?
Basically how it worked for me was I had to do 45+5 hours every week to keep my “bank” at zero. You got paid straight through aswell another kick in the Staines. At holidays if you took five days off you’d owe them 5 hours 
If I did 40 hours I would owe the “bank” 10 hours to be worked off at a later date.
Any overtime plus hours in the bank, that would get paid every 6 months if you owed them it would carry over.
It breeds “hanging it out” syndrome big time when in fact it’s supposed to do the opposite.
A lot of folk liked it and a lot of folk hated it. Very marmite sorta eh thing.
Also need to keep on top of your hours cos they always ■■■■■■ it up and it was always in their favour they ■■■■■■ up in.
My record was +60 hours
My negative record was -120hours that’s when we shut down for 6 months and went on a 3 day week. Took years to recoup it cos I only ever wanted to do my 10 hours a day. I could have one drop 5 mile away tell you what id always get my 10hours, never understood why the company liked cos it didn’t work at all.
Now if it’s policed by the company , god almighty it’s a horrible bastart way to get paid!!!
jonny b:
I inquired about a job today To find out a few details. The transport manager explained to me that they work an annualised system does this happen alot,some weeks you may work 60 hours some 30 as long as you do your hours. Never heard of it before?
Bidvest?
Sounds a bit pants. The job was’nt for me anyway. The transport manager seemed nice enough but he said that the agency staff were paid more than the regulars and you had to do 13 weeks on the agency before being taken on 
Who was it for jonny b?
merc0447:
Who was it for jonny b?
Dhl dunelm mills leicester.
As I said the manager seemed a nice bloke and the people seemed happy enough. Just didn’t feel right. 
I’m a learner still , I’ve got onto a train to employ scheme with a container firm BUT I’ve been working for a manufacturing company that make wiring looms for formula 1 teams that operates a annualised hours scheme and it’s just dogshite !!
The company operates a 2416 calculated over a yearly period this works out at 46 hours a week which you get paid regardless of what hours you do , this is great as you have a regular income
But there is a couple of massive downsides ,The company runs the working year (and annualised hours ) from July to July ) being f1 work it’s seasonal work so from December to May time it goes crazy your Expected to do 60 hours a week minimum with a couple of 50 hours either side , doesn’t sound so bad ■■ Wrong if you leave before January you loose 6 hours a week between July and January , that’s 156 hours so let’s say your on £7 an hour that’s £1092 !!! So effectively your last month you work for nothing , (on the flip side if I leave in May they owe me money and in July it’s all square )
The other bad point is that any overtime was paid at the end of July , so having worked your arse off it’s very easy to loose everything you’ve worked had for , let’s say you do 65-75 hours and you get 100 hours over the 2416 , it’s really hard work to concentrate and focus for that long , but you have to do your contracted hours otherwise when it comes to July you won’t get the 100 you worked as they take it off you at time for time
Annualised is great for a sustained income , but the potential to fleece the workforce is far higher !!
If it was me I’d have to think very long and hard to get involved with a company running an annualised hour scheme
Hourly/daily rate and weekly for me every time now
Matthews Flour have just put their drivers on annualised hours and moving to monthly pay. For some reason they’ve been told they MUST have 1 hours’ break instead of 45 minutes. I would assume the perk of going home at say 9am following a night out (where you’d work a 15 hour day to get everything off) is now a thing of the past?
Yet another of their drivers is moving to tippers next week, that will make 4 Red Arrow pilots ex Matthews.
They had the same system at sainsburys. They had a guide time on the wall for every store. The drivers were paid for 9 hrs, the shortest run was 3 hrs on the matrix. They all did 6 hrs 15 mins, then refused to go out on a second run, has been known not to go out at all when the pick was running behind. You should have heard the ■■■■■■■■ and moaning when they were told they were on a week of 12 hour days. A lot of drivers are hypocritical, they slag off the employer for wanting it all their own way, when in reality we’re all the same
Getting called in on your day off to work overtime for nothing, because you owed them hours was another thing that put me off annualised hours
peirre:
Getting called in on your day off to work overtime for nothing, because you owed them hours was another thing that put me off annualised hours
■■? It’s not for nothing if you owe the hours. You’ve been paid up front
peirre:
Getting called in on your day off to work overtime for nothing, because you owed them hours was another thing that put me off annualised hours
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i did annualised hours a few years back, if it runs great and everyone plays ball it can be a good system, however there is always one that doesnt so it ■■■■■ the whole lot up, be carefull how its set up as we had reserve hours in the contract which were not very well explained and our interpretation of this was the opposite to the companies view, one guy went long term sick which was a joke but at end of year we all earned exactly the same, but some had worked several hours more then others because they were available to cover…