And we wonder why people don’t like us [Merged]

The OP doesn’t say that the car ‘pulled out in front of’ the truck, he says the truck ‘accelerated’ until very close the back of the car. That probabaly isn’t correct it just seemed like it accelerated. So was Globetrotterfandango half asleep ? he could have backed off easily. It sounds to me that the lady driver had been given sound advice in the past about not putting yourself in a situation where you cannot see what is happenning in the nearside blindspot so move out to lane two when passing junctions… … isn’t that similar to moving out one lane when passing a vehicle on the hard shoulder if it is possible to do so, which as ‘professionals?’ we are quite keen on pointing out? If the driver 200 yds behind is asleep - or more likely too thick to appreciate the reason, then they need to look at themselves. The Lady is perfectly entitled to drive at 50mph. Professional drivers are supposed to make allowances for other less experienced drivers.

Just goes to show how a story changes every time it is told. Now the colleague pulled out in front of the lorry. There is one professional driver in this situation and by the account given, instead of maintaining an appropriate distance, the driver closed the gap and all the rest of it. It is just a selfish me me me, I am king of the road, get out of my way attitude.

mark1284:
I wouldn’t of used the bully boy tactics i would of went past on the inside. I see too much of it to actually give a [zb]

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Me too [emoji106][emoji16]

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the maoster:
Why didn’t you just pass him on the inside?

Probably a Tesco lorry in the distance, better off going into lane 3.

No big deal here.

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

cav551:
The OP doesn’t say that the car ‘pulled out in front of’ the truck, he says the truck ‘accelerated’ until very close the back of the car. That probabaly isn’t correct it just seemed like it accelerated. So was Globetrotterfandango half asleep ? he could have backed off easily. It sounds to me that the lady driver had been given sound advice in the past about not putting yourself in a situation where you cannot see what is happenning in the nearside blindspot so move out to lane two when passing junctions… … isn’t that similar to moving out one lane when passing a vehicle on the hard shoulder if it is possible to do so, which as ‘professionals?’ we are quite keen on pointing out? If the driver 200 yds behind is asleep - or more likely too thick to appreciate the reason, then they need to look at themselves. The Lady is perfectly entitled to drive at 50mph. Professional drivers are supposed to make allowances for other less experienced drivers.

Spot on.

msgyorkie:
I see this sort of crap car driving day in day out…so much so that it doesn’t bother me anymore. I just tut and thrash on ahead on the inside of the prats.
Personally this sort of car driving ought to be penalised with a forced re-test of their driving licence.
Oh and yes the artic driver is also a bellend.

If you need a forced retest for doing a perfectly legal speed on a motorway and moving to allow traffic to join then surely the artic driver needs to lose his licence and go to prison for being dangerous and aggressive? By that logic.

R420:
No sympathy. The Highway Code is freely available to everyone. If they choose not to use it and educate themselves on how to drive legally and safely then they shouldn’t cry when they get “bullied”. The situation is entirely of their own making. You won’t get much sympathy here - and rightly so.

HERE HERE! I’d have rammed the buggers off the road on my way into the ditch! So inconsiderate

cav551:
The OP doesn’t say that the car ‘pulled out in front of’ the truck, he says the truck ‘accelerated’ until very close the back of the car. That probabaly isn’t correct… […]

He said they “move into lane 2 regardless” at every slip road, so moving over when there is nothing to move over for :bulb: . If the truck wasn’t already in the process of overtaking, how did it “accelerate until very close to the back of the car” when it wasn’t even in the same lane? :bulb: Quite clear from extrapolating what was written that the OP pulled into lane 2 at 50 (45mph) to block the truck’s progress, intentionally or not. Understandable why the trucker got ■■■■■■■ just like everyone on here in the same situation would be too, despite the claims to the contrary. OP needs to sort out their own driving instead of the usual blaming their shortfalls on everybody else.

switchlogic:

R420:
No sympathy. The Highway Code is freely available to everyone. If they choose not to use it and educate themselves on how to drive legally and safely then they shouldn’t cry when they get “bullied”. The situation is entirely of their own making. You won’t get much sympathy here - and rightly so.

HERE HERE! I’d have rammed the buggers off the road on my way into the ditch! So inconsiderate

Indeed the Highway Code is freely available to everyone. What that Highway Code will tell you all seeing as you’ve all forgotten is:

1/ motorways in the uk have no minimum speed limit
2/ stopping distances and safe gaps between traffic in front
3/ correct use of the horn (not in aggression)
4/ correct use of light flashing (not in aggression)
5/ to keep left unless overtaking

Now out of those 5 Highway Code rules in this situation the inexperienced nervous car driver broke one of the rules. The professional HGV driver in charge of a 44 ton truck broke 4 of them. Says it all really doesn’t it. I repeat no wonder we are hated and not respected.

DickyNick:

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

No idea, as soon as I realised it was another yawny Mcyawnface post about bad lorry driving I gave up caring.

DickyNick:

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

The car driver might also want to read the sections in the highway code about keeping left except when overtaking and driving in a manner so as not to cause inconvenience to others, driving at 20mph below the limit will get you a fail on driving test.
The lorry driver should have just gone up the inside and not made an issue of it sounds like a case of two drivers not knowing the rules.

cav551:
The OP doesn’t say that the car ‘pulled out in front of’ the truck, he says the truck ‘accelerated’ until very close the back of the car. That probabaly isn’t correct it just seemed like it accelerated. So was Globetrotterfandango half asleep ? he could have backed off easily. It sounds to me that the lady driver had been given sound advice in the past about not putting yourself in a situation where you cannot see what is happenning in the nearside blindspot so move out to lane two when passing junctions… … isn’t that similar to moving out one lane when passing a vehicle on the hard shoulder if it is possible to do so, which as ‘professionals?’ we are quite keen on pointing out? If the driver 200 yds behind is asleep - or more likely too thick to appreciate the reason, then they need to look at themselves. The Lady is perfectly entitled to drive at 50mph. Professional drivers are supposed to make allowances for other less experienced drivers.

Agree 100%

Mazzer2:

DickyNick:

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

The car driver might also want to read the sections in the highway code about keeping left except when overtaking and driving in a manner so as not to cause inconvenience to others, driving at 20mph below the limit will get you a fail on driving test.
The lorry driver should have just gone up the inside and not made an issue of it sounds like a case of two drivers not knowing the rules.

Exactly why pull into middle lane anyway, it’s time people learnt that when joining motorway they have to give way not the other way round. Boils my ■■■■.
Ok seems on this occasion that it’s a new driver, no excuse not to learn the rules, but on the face of it it’s a non event that happens 100 times a day and as said I’d of just cracked on in inside lane.
People really get upset about the stupidest most unimportant things it’s hilarious.

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I suspect the lorry came hurtling up to a car plodding along in lane one at 50 ish,pulled out into lane two to overtake and the car(because it moves across at junctions??) pulled in front of the lorry and still forced him to slow down for no reason.
You could probably understand from the truckers point of view why he’s angry,it would look like they’d done it deliberately…

If your not comfortable on a motorway don’t drive on it :unamused:

Mazzer2:

DickyNick:

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

The car driver might also want to read the sections in the highway code about keeping left except when overtaking and driving in a manner so as not to cause inconvenience to others, driving at 20mph below the limit will get you a fail on driving test.
The lorry driver should have just gone up the inside and not made an issue of it sounds like a case of two drivers not knowing the rules.

You’d fail your test yet it’s still perfectly legal. You’d also fail your test for driving up close behind someone, beeping your horn and flashing your lights in aggressive, but it seems we excuse that on this forum because he’s “one of our own”. The professional driver in this situation broke more rules of the Highway Code than the inexperienced car driver. Yet people still fighting his corner. Pathetic the lot of you.

The driving test for a motorway should be separate to the main test. Pass the first test that enables you to drive on P plates on any other roads other than motorways, then have to pass an advanced test to remove the P plates and drive on motorways too. The driving style and skills are entirely different to slower roads and a nervous or incompetent driver should not be using a motorway. The lessons could involve how to join the motorway properly either from a junction or the hard shoulder, the amount of people you see sat stationary at the end of a slip because they didn’t start looking until near the end of it then couldn’t join is unbelievable. Same goes for the ones who rejoin from the hard shoulder from a dead stop instead of building speed first. They could be taught how their actions affect other vehicles, especially large ones. And lane discipline could be thrown in for good measure. You could even revoke the motorway entitlement for a period of time for fault accidents or dangerous driving that causes near misses.

drover:

Mazzer2:

DickyNick:

Hyh:
Sounds like the colleague needs some time with a driving instructor to get up to a proper standard.

In the mean time, fit P plates and reacquaint themselves with the highway code

If you hold back others making progress, you shouldn’t be on the road and funnily enough, you wont pass a driving test dawdling around either.

Who really needs to reacquaint themselves with the Highway Code. The car driver who is driving at a perfectly legal 50mph and has moved out to pass a junction to allow traffic to join… or the PROFESSIONAL driver who clearly:

1/ doesn’t understand stopping distances
2/ doesn’t understand that he may kill someone if the car brakes
3/ doesn’t know the correct use of a horn
4/ doesn’t know the correct use of headlight flashing
5/ is so impatient 30 seconds matter

Out of those 2 which one REALLY needs some re training and to read up on the rules?

The car driver might also want to read the sections in the highway code about keeping left except when overtaking and driving in a manner so as not to cause inconvenience to others, driving at 20mph below the limit will get you a fail on driving test.
The lorry driver should have just gone up the inside and not made an issue of it sounds like a case of two drivers not knowing the rules.

Exactly why pull into middle lane anyway, it’s time people learnt that when joining motorway they have to give way not the other way round. Boils my ■■■■.
Ok seems on this occasion that it’s a new driver, no excuse not to learn the rules, but on the face of it it’s a non event that happens 100 times a day and as said I’d of just cracked on in inside lane.
People really get upset about the stupidest most unimportant things it’s hilarious.

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Plenty of professional drivers don’t seem to understand that they must give way to traffic already on the motorway yet they don’t they just come speeding down the slip road to bully their way into lane 1. Have you thought this is way a car driver might move out necessarily in fear of being flattened by a truck with no care in the world? Another situation we bring in ourself by poor, dangerous and inconsiderate driving because we are in the bigger vehicle. Weak little men who feel superior while they are higher up the an everyone else.