Can anydody tell me what it would cost(roughly) in tolls to run a 26t (lift axle) down to Ancona ? -also
Blanc/ Frejus or Swiss.
Not sure about toll costs but for that side of Italy what about through Austria?
Ben9:
Not sure about toll costs but for that side of Italy what about through Austria?
Not sure of the rules/regs via Austria - never transited that way.
I think Brit Pete or Simon will be able to point you to a calculator to work out the best routes, including the train if you are under the height limits.
Swiss is probably the cheapest as you can transit Luxembourg and France without paying a toll although you are paying further in Italy, Austria over the Brenner is the shortest route I imagine but you are then paying the Maut and would need a Gobox. France and the Blanc or Frejus is the simplest route.
Wheel Nut:
I think Brit Pete or Simon will be able to point you to a calculator to work out the best routes, including the train if you are under the height limits.Swiss is probably the cheapest as you can transit Luxembourg and France without paying a toll although you are paying further in Italy, Austria over the Brenner is the shortest route I imagine but you are then paying the Maut and would need a Gobox. France and the Blanc or Frejus is the simplest route.
Cheers for the info - would be intersted to know what the “average” qoute would be to do a job to Athens-have a driver sit there for 5 days , then reload what he took down and come home ?
I said £8000 - i am i being greedy ?
about the rate and you being greedy no you are not
Hi a few questions what EURO engine certificate do you have
on the truck, also how high is it EXACTLY; The Trailer I MEAN;;
Two routes come to mind , but before i start is the truck ready
for winter, as regards winter tyres, snow chains and the rest
of the gubbins that goes with it,
first route if you fit on the train would be to go via docks
(Dunkirk,Calais,Ostende etc) over LUXEMBOURG down to
Metz F ;Strasborg–Kehl D; through to the A5 autobahn,
here you head for BASEL–FREIBURG for the train staion
were you can piggy back over the ALps to NOVERA Italy,
here is the time table and price listHERE
here is a Informations link read it INFORMATION
The train takes you through the swiss and you land in Novera with a clean
disk/card, and can reach ANCONA quite easy,
the other way would be say from the docks to AACHEN german border
down the A4 to EITHER A61 Koblenz, Speyer,Hockenheim,
A6 Heilbronn,Nuerenburg, now on to the A9 down to
Munchen ring road round to the A8 for Rosenheim
Kufstein Insbruck,Brenner Italy
Or Aachen Koln FRANKFURT; Wurzburg
Nurenburg,Munchen, etc,
LET US SAY THE ROUTE IS roughly 800kms on
german motoways , X YOUR COSTS set by toll collect for
you truck roughly will cost between €136 —€232 depending
on your truck type,
TOLL-COLLECT
Before i add the austrian leg its no good if your
truck is one of the older models as there are
bans on the older motors, you need at least a euro
3,4,5 engine
brit pete:
about the rate and you being greedy no you are notHi a few questions what EURO engine certificate do you have
on the truck, also how high is it EXACTLY; The Trailer I MEAN;;
Two routes come to mind , but before i start is the truck ready
for winter, as regards winter tyres, snow chains and the rest
of the gubbins that goes with it,first route if you fit on the train would be to go via docks
(Dunkirk,Calais,Ostende etc) over LUXEMBOURG down to
Metz F ;Strasborg–Kehl D; through to the A5 autobahn,
here you head for BASEL–FREIBURG for the train staion
were you can piggy back over the ALps to NOVERA Italy,
here is the time table and price listHERE
here is a Informations link read it INFORMATIONThe train takes you through the swiss and you land in Novera with a clean
disk/card, and can reach ANCONA quite easy,the other way would be say from the docks to AACHEN german border
down the A4 to EITHER A61 Koblenz, Speyer,Hockenheim,
A6 Heilbronn,Nuerenburg, now on to the A9 down to
Munchen ring road round to the A8 for Rosenheim
Kufstein Insbruck,Brenner ItalyOr Aachen Koln FRANKFURT; Wurzburg
Nurenburg,Munchen, etc,LET US SAY THE ROUTE IS roughly 800kms on
german motoways , X YOUR COSTS set by toll collect for
you truck roughly will cost between €136 —€232 depending
on your truck type,
TOLL-COLLECTBefore i add the austrian leg its no good if your
truck is one of the older models as there are
bans on the older motors, you need at least a euro
3,4,5 engine
Lorry is a 26t (26.000kg gross) rigid Euro 3 engine.- no trailer
4.2 meter high and yes , will be carrying snow chains and all the gubbins 
OKAY ; YOU ARE 20cm too high for the Train so for get
using that,Also if you get stopped and checked or you
get stuck some where , then you have problems,
The official height is 4.00m for all Europe transport
can you drop the height of the trailer ■■
GOING THROUGH the Swiss is a No No you will get caught
by the checks on height before the tunnel at the latest if
not before,The fines will be HIGH so I would not try it
they may also turn you around back to the border where you
entered ,
As for the Blanc and Frejus here it will
cost you more probably for being over height
here is theWEB-SITEFOR MOUNT BLANC;;
here is the link for the FREJUS-TUNNEL,
If you go all the way by road via the Brenner down to Verona
and then head for ANCONA , you may be lucky and not have problems
as regards the height??
With a EURO -3 motor no problems with a ban apart from NIGHTS
on the stretch posted all ready , also the Brenner is TOO expensive
at nights to USE;
This is the way I would go , as it will be the quickest way and
the cheapest ,
Suedehead:
Lorry is a 26t (26.000kg gross) rigid Euro 3 engine.- no trailer
brit pete:
can you drop the height of the trailer ■■
4.2 metres you are asking for trouble, you are OK in France but anywhere else you will be lucky to escape problems. That £8000 will soon disappear if you are stopped and need to find another vehicle to take the load onward.
brit pete:
OKAY ; YOU ARE 20cm too high for the Train so for get
using that,Also if you get stopped and checked or you
get stuck some where , then you have problems,
The official height is 4.00m for all Europe transport
can you drop the height of the trailer ■■GOING THROUGH the Swiss is a No No you will get caught
by the checks on height before the tunnel at the latest if
not before,The fines will be HIGH so I would not try it
they may also turn you around back to the border where you
entered ,As for the Blanc and Frejus here it will
cost you more probably for being over height
here is theWEB-SITEFOR MOUNT BLANC;;
here is the link for the FREJUS-TUNNEL,
If you go all the way by road via the Brenner down to Verona
and then head for ANCONA , you may be lucky and not have problems
as regards the height??
With a EURO -3 motor no problems with a ban apart from NIGHTS
on the stretch posted all ready , also the Brenner is TOO expensive
at nights to USE;
This is the way I would go , as it will be the quickest way and
the cheapest ,
No trailer Pete. It is a 26,000kg rigid
I think this might be a record.
There has only been a tiny mention of Luxembourg sneaked in.
Ben9:
I think this might be a record.There has only been a tiny mention of Luxembourg sneaked in.
But there was a big shout for the train.
Ben9:
I think this might be a record.There has only been a tiny mention of Luxembourg sneaked in.
Yes but we did get the winter tyres in.
I haven’t seen many Fridges running less than 4.2 metres
Cheers one and all still that’s what friends are for 
Just a little bit more reading for you.
tunnelmb.net/v3.0/pdf/Ordinanza_GB_DE.pdf
Scroll to the bottom for dimensions.4.7m
tunneldufrejus.com/web/guest … esentation
4.3m Frejus
I would spend some time checking the route in Italy but wouldnt worry so much in Greece as they tend to load the trucks as high as they can. I have seen 6 metre high bridges with damaged undersides 
Coffeeholic:
Ben9:
I think this might be a record.There has only been a tiny mention of Luxembourg sneaked in.
But there was a big shout for the train.
But only if the train had snow-tyres and refuelled in Luxembourg!! 
Only kiddin’ Pete.
Back to the OP… There is a general hight limit of 4m for trucks on international journeys.
Then there’s this little snippet from StVO §22(2) (The German Road Traffic Act. Section 22(2) )
§ 22 Ladung
(2) Fahrzeug und Ladung dürfen zusammen nicht breiter als 2,55 m und nicht höher als 4 m sein.
My own translation: The vehicle and load together may not be wider than 2.55m and not higher than 4m
According to StVO’s catalogue of fines, there is a €20 fine if the vehicle height is more than 4m, but not more than 4.20m.
If the vehicle height exceeds 4.20m, then the fine is doubled to €40.
At least two contributors to this topic have been fined for overheight in Switzerland, and let’s not forget that those fiendish Swiss chappies have an electronic 4m height alarm on the approach to the St Gottard tunnel.
Who remembers Brit-European drivers being fined 500,000 Lira (£250 at the time) for overheight in Italy when they carried the diggers?
The Swiss fine for the same offence back then was £40ish, so I got off quite lightly. 
dieseldave:
The Swiss fine for the same offence back then was £40ish, so I got off quite lightly.
I was fined twice in the one stop for overheight in Swiss, once for the wagon, once for the drag.
My wagon was 4.08, the drag 4.07.
They were both slightly high at the tail, so dropping my wagons suspension lifted the tail of my trailer. Dropping my trailer suspension more, to compensate, made it’s tyres rub. Leave them to rub long enough and they’d have blown (which would have dropped the height enough, but it would have had terrible handling )
The total fine had 4 numbers before the point, 1300 (and a bit) seems to ring a bell, but I can’t remember if that was £s or ChFs.
I was picked up by the height sensor at the St Gottard tunnel.
The French Autoroutes site will give you the tolls on your route through France, but not anywhere else. That link should take you to the route planner page with Calais to Ancona with a 3 axle truck already filled in. I put Macon in at Stop No 1 and it planned a route via Mont Blanc. If I left that blank, it planned a route via Swiss. Use different stop points to get it to route you they way you want to go. (You’ll have to click Calais 62100 on two separate pages before it’ll calculate a route).
Have a look in the Euro Drivers Info Point, which is a sticky at the top of the Euro Forum page. There’s a similar site for Italy there, that’ll calculate the tolls for you too.
Simon:
dieseldave:
The Swiss fine for the same offence back then was £40ish, so I got off quite lightly.
I was fined twice in the one stop for overheight in Swiss, once for the wagon, once for the drag.
My wagon was 4.08, the drag 4.07.
Blimey, the Swiss don’t miss a trick. (Or should that say ‘truck.’■■)
Thanks for the info.
The driver will be taking an overheight(or not)vehicle down the old way . . via the Blanc, with a couple of lenghts of chain link fencing hanging from the chassis, ■■■■ the winter tyres