Not that many…or he wouldn’t be advertising.
Winseer:
In that regard, £15ph sounds good… For a two day week, you’ve turned down a good job there…
The 15 ph sounds ok at face value…subject the question where does it take 8 hours of ‘driving’ time from the Midlands and define ‘one drop’ on the ‘way back’ when ‘trunking’ work doesn’t involve and isn’t usually described in terms of, ‘drops’ anywhere.Other than maybe ‘drop’ a trailer but it doesn’t read as that.
I smell a rat.
osark:
I have seen advertised, not far from where you are, a weekend job for £250 per day. I dont know the details but for that kind of money I doubt it would be anything else than tramping from Sat to Sun.
By the way, the ad is a big banner right in front of the company’s yard and not the Internet bait style.
mmm. any chance of a pm with the co. and location - I would guess it to be supermarket store deliveries but hey.
Mate of mine…
Is on £250 a day in the Halifax (ish) area.
I could tell you who and where but, I’d have to kill you.
yourhavingalarf:
Mate of mine…Is on £250 a day in the Halifax (ish) area.
I could tell you who and where but, I’d have to kill you.
But for what hours and shifts?
Ken.
yourhavingalarf:
Mate of mine…Is on £250 a day in the Halifax (ish) area.
I could tell you who and where but, I’d have to kill you.
Ahh Halifax isn’t really near the bottom of the M6
Quinny:
As we now live in a 24/7/365 world now, the phrase unsociable hours doesn’t really come into our job any more, as weekend work is part of the working week Ken.
This along with the filthies intention to require photo id in order to vote, and the assumption that everyone has a passport or a photo driving licence - 11 million don’t - a smart phone or a mobile phone to in order to pay to park their car, an internet connection, a computer or tablet and a bank account is quite simply age discrimination.
The disgaceful thing about this is that so many people are quite happy to accept all of this.
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,
If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
tip, drop trailer, daily rest, collect reloaded trailer and return on saturday night with one drop enroute, (getting back around 9am Sun), so easy work but unsociable hours. I live in the Midlands bang in the middle near bottom of M6.
I expected such a job to pay a “trip” rate of somewhere between 5 and 6 hundred, I was told that he prefers to employ drivers living in the real world!
He’s right, you’re living in a fantasy world. £400 plus £26 for the ONE night out you’ll need.
Shame it’s not anywhere near me, £400 for being away from home for a run taking just a day and a half including the time spent inspecting the back of my eyelids would suit me down to the ground.
The only people who pay trip money are those who send their wagons to the continent and usually the money is so crap that unless you run as bent as a banana you’re barely scraping minimum wage.
Conor:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
tip, drop trailer, daily rest, collect reloaded trailer and return on saturday night with one drop enroute, (getting back around 9am Sun), so easy work but unsociable hours. I live in the Midlands bang in the middle near bottom of M6.
I expected such a job to pay a “trip” rate of somewhere between 5 and 6 hundred, I was told that he prefers to employ drivers living in the real world!
He’s right, you’re living in a fantasy world. £400 plus £26 for the ONE night out you’ll need.
Shame it’s not anywhere near me, £400 for being away from home for a run taking just a day and a half including the time spent inspecting the back of my eyelids would suit me down to the ground.
The only people who pay trip money are those who send their wagons to the continent and usually the money is so crap that unless you run as bent as a banana you’re barely scraping minimum wage.
Guessing in your world, £330 IS £400, in the real world, it’s £70 shy. But if you think 3 score & 10 is nothing, I’ll liberate that from your wallet…
Conor:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
Bearing in mind that 9-10 hours is as far as anyone is allowed to drive in a shift and even 8 hours can get you over 300 hundred miles up the road it’s obviously not exactly a local run.
But exactly where could it be from the Midlands.
The situation is that all rates are available right now for casual work.
If a truck needs to be driven in an area where there are no drivers available, a company has to pay a price high enough to tempt somebody away from somewhere/thing else.
What we need to see happen is for long term rates, i.e. rates on permanent jobs, to be up in the very high teens with premiums for overtime etc.
Until we have that, nothing has been achieved apart from a short term gain.
In this pseudo capitalist country I’m afraid the true market makers are already working against us to make sure we don’t get what we want, or indeed deserve.
Carryfast:
Winseer:
In that regard, £15ph sounds good… For a two day week, you’ve turned down a good job there…
The 15 ph sounds ok at face value…subject the question where does it take 8 hours of ‘driving’ time from the Midlands and define ‘one drop’ on the ‘way back’ when ‘trunking’ work doesn’t involve and isn’t usually described in terms of, ‘drops’ anywhere.Other than maybe ‘drop’ a trailer but it doesn’t read as that.
I smell a rat.[/
Collected cemex rugby & tipped a builders merchants nr wick , not sure if I drove that in a day, , may off done something before cemex , so nighted at Carlisle , then went on upto wick
Would often do max hours driving from midland , nwk - Worksop - Dumfries hospital - nwk , if I remember right could only do it x2 as over 9 hrs driving
Loaded Inverness ( soup / Baxter’s maybe ) & I only had 1 tank on scania as they replaced it with toolbox ) , so had to head across toward Aberdeen for fuel , ran out of driving time at sherburn though there was snow slowing me down
So, what happened to the driver shortage?
alamcculloch:
So, what happened to the driver shortage?
The press moved on to the next bit of scandal and outrage that sells.
That would be my shift of horror , fri night until sun morn , fri night & sat night in a lorry ( doesn’t bare thinking about
I’d rather earn what your on about , by doing a mon/ tues day shift at 2x15 hrs x £20
When I worked in engineering a normal sat o/t shift would be 6-10/12 as would be Sunday , I normally did my 6-14.00 shift then stopped until 18.00 one day in week so I didn’t have to go in on a sat /sun , the only people around outside those hours at weekends were security
As the saying goes , they couldn’t pay me enough to do that shift
Conor:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
tip, drop trailer, daily rest, collect reloaded trailer and return on saturday night with one drop enroute, (getting back around 9am Sun), so easy work but unsociable hours. I live in the Midlands bang in the middle near bottom of M6.
I expected such a job to pay a “trip” rate of somewhere between 5 and 6 hundred, I was told that he prefers to employ drivers living in the real world!
He’s right, you’re living in a fantasy world. £400 plus £26 for the ONE night out you’ll need.
Shame it’s not anywhere near me, £400 for being away from home for a run taking just a day and a half including the time spent inspecting the back of my eyelids would suit me down to the ground.
The only people who pay trip money are those who send their wagons to the continent and usually the money is so crap that unless you run as bent as a banana you’re barely scraping minimum wage.
First point, I’ll give you - my current, regular job doesn’t take me out of the county
I don’t know where the 2 nights out came from - it wasn’t me
If the job was as you describe it, day and a half and a night out, ie. Long day Sat, reduced rest Sat night, short day Sun and home for Sunday lunch, after a short shift and 9 hours on the bunk the night before - I would’ve taken it for £400 + night out £
But that’s not the job and that’s not what was offered. What was offered was two full nights and a “night” out Saturday daytime. Any responsible person is going to need some extra sleeps before and after that, perhaps an “agency ■■■■■” who might or might not regularly swap from days to nights and back doesn’t, perhaps that person could come home early on Sunday after a 12 hour shift and kipping on the bunk the previous day and then go out and dig the garden, or even do another shift, me, I’m too old.
Even then 400 quid wasn’t on offer - the rate offered was £15 per hour, maybe with breaks deducted IDK, and that is the weekend night rate. I really don’t think that’s good enough.
I do know how trip money works and that’s why I put the word “trip” in inverted commas (“”) just like I just did just back there, 
so that nobody thought the job was actually offered on a trip money basis. Obviously I failed. I feel suitably chastised for my lack of knowledge of all things trucking and may or may not try harder next time. BTW what’s a Linehaul driver?
Like I have already said take off any night shift allowance of say 20% it only works out at £12 an hour or at 25% its only £11.25. the guy needs to get real
Winseer:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive, tip, drop trailer, daily rest, collect reloaded trailer and return on saturday night with one drop enroute, (getting back around 9am Sun), so easy work but unsociable hours. I live in the Midlands bang in the middle near bottom of M6. The rate on offer was £15 per hour, plus, presumably, a night (day) out payment but we didn’t get as far as discussing that.
I expected such a job to pay a “trip” rate of somewhere between 5 and 6 hundred, I was told that he prefers to employ drivers living in the real world!
I did bump into one of his drivers - the bloke appeared to be ill and unsure whether he would be coming in tonight.
Just to be clear I was only looking to do the 2 shifts (or one trip) once a week or once a fortnight as required, on a permanent basis.
I know that similar shifts but harder work put 400+ in my bank account after tax, 15 years ago.
Am I being greedy or over optimistic? Or is he?Last year - I was working Saturday early doors until Sunday Evening with often the night out saturday night.
05:00-20:00, 9 hours rest in a layby, 05:00 start sunday morning, was home by Sunday tea time, having booked 12 hours on the sunday.
27 hours + night out money @ £12ph.In that regard, £15ph sounds good… For a two day week, you’ve turned down a good job there…
You worked for £12ph for weekend nights.
Why?
Carryfast:
Conor:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
Bearing in mind that 9-10 hours is as far as anyone is allowed to drive in a shift and even 8 hours can get you over 300 hundred miles up the road it’s obviously not exactly a local run.
But exactly where could it be from the Midlands.
Where could 8 hours get you from the Midlands? How about Edinburgh? Or Dundee? Or anywhere else in Scotland on the east or north of Glasgow.
And it sounds like it’s probably run loaded to destination, tip and reload, unload part of the load somewhere on the route back and the rest of it on return to base.
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Terry Cooksey:
Carryfast:
Conor:
dekka:
I turned down a job today which would have involved a long distance trunk on a friday night (8pm start), 8 hr drive,If you think 8hrs is long distance you need to stick to your Tesco home delivery job.
Bearing in mind that 9-10 hours is as far as anyone is allowed to drive in a shift and even 8 hours can get you over 300 hundred miles up the road it’s obviously not exactly a local run.
But exactly where could it be from the Midlands.Where could 8 hours get you from the Midlands? How about Edinburgh? Or Dundee? Or anywhere else in Scotland on the east or north of Glasgow.
And it sounds like it’s probably run loaded to destination, tip and reload, unload part of the load somewhere on the route back and the rest of it on return to base.
It would have to be nothing less than that if the 8 hours driving is to be believed.
But it sounds more like a weekend tramping job with lots of scope for aggro and more hours than just a simple Scotch trunking run.
The latter would be worth doing even at £14 ph.