All drivers to have extra training including sessions riding

FPMSL.
Get a life
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What kind of animal are you?

Anything that would prevent such a tragic event would be worth consideration, although I fail to see how you would find such a tragedy “funny”.

I only hope that you are referring to the sorry excuses of men who now do the job attempting to ride a bicycle around central London.

Have ask how it supposed to help, after all most know how to ride a bike. And drivers know about blindspots, so how is a session on a bike going to help, we will just go and prove our point by not riding up the inside of a truck…or using plain common sense.

i do have sympathy with her family, as losing your child however young is terrible x

SWEDISH BLUE:
FPMSL.
Get a life

Perhaps you dont get out much or your looking for a laugh?
Nothing funny about the story & more sad that the vehicle had a defect.
Or is it funny because you drive vehicles like that & think your a macho man for doing so?
Bit of a ■■■■ on the quiet are you?

Really sad I feel for the family, I’m not in any way shape or form proportioning blame either way but why do cyclists have to come up our inside. Yesterday a cyclist came up the inside off me there was no room at all he had to put his foot to on the pavement and push his way through, I constanty check mirrors not just when moving off and I saw him coming and saw him squeeze up the side off me then didnt see him he stopped in my blind spot, if I didn’t see him come before I would off possibly done what that driver did to the poor girl. Any education to prevent things like that happening can’t be bad I’d rather learn how not to kill someone then 35 hours off useless tripe but why do we have to ride bikes why not a mention off cyclists spending an hour in a lorry would that no be an idea also?.

SWEDISH BLUE:
FPMSL.
Get a life
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You find that article funny :open_mouth:

I think it’s you that needs to get a life :unamused:

But how making lorry drivers riding bikes is supposed to help make cyclist stop to try to squeeze past 44 vehicles without letting them a chance to see them?

I was in London yesterday and I had a moron on scooter trying to squeez past me on my left when I was moving closer to the kerb to avoid bus coming on my half of the road as he was overtaking cyclist. Sorry Mr scooter rider, but I can’t stop instantly if I do 29 mph in the van, and nor can the double decker bus. He stopped to give me a lecture and he was impregnant to all discussion. He had a camera on his helmet, so I expect to become famous on youtube soon :slight_smile:

Tragic loss of life. I own a Giant tcr composite 3. Hoping to do the Manchester to blackpool next month.
The op finds funny is that bike groups want us to be in thier shoes. I am. But this was not the driver’s fault. Just bad luck.
May she RIP

I agree that it a tragic loss of life, and condolences to the family.
I was laughing at this idiot.
A spokesman for the London Cycling campaign said: ‘Crashes with large lorries account for about half the cyclist deaths in London.
'We at the LCC have been campaigning to improve the equipment on lorries and for all drivers to have extra training including sessions riding a bike.

Well bored of this subject now.

OP - get a life!

It saddens me that the spokes man for London Cycling, or what ever it’s called, thinks it’s just us drivers that need more training. I would like to see all cyclists try diving a lorry just for 15 minutes in a safe environment just to see that it’s commonsense from all concerned that will preserve life as well as thinking safety/safely.

Just for the record if one of these so called campaigners is reading our forum. It just so happens I’ve spent 20 years cycling to work and never, whether its indicating or not, whether I’m on a cycle path or not, gone up the inside of either lorrys (big or small), vans or buses. It’s suicidal to even contemplate it. It’s a practice that was taught to me 30+ years ago as a child on cycling proficiency badges.

As for MAMIL’s on a weekend, don’t even get me started!!!

Ops forgot say , My condolences to the family, it’s never nice loosing a loved one, RIP.

‘I told him he had driven over a cyclist. I told him several times and pointed her out under the wheel. I was shocked that he had not noticed.’

Just proves how little joe public is aware our blinds spots its not the bike riding needed its a course for all joe public (cyclists walkers etc) to learn about LGV blind spots

RIP to those involved

Just wish the government would point its finger in the right direction by knowing there’s only so much a HGV can see and putting more mirror or glass on a truck will only help so much the rest has to be done via people around them understanding what they can see where they can’t and how much room you need

It is a tragic lose of life but I do have to agree the guy from the LCC needs to re think his advice, HGV drivers tend to have had more training than most using the roads and usually cyclists have had none. Yes something needs to be done but why cant it to better educate cyclists.

DABenji:
. Yes something needs to be done but why cant it to better educate cyclists.

No mileage in that (pardon the pun). Very hard to police, trace or get money out of cyclists. Truckers however may as well have “regulate and fine me till I squeak” tattooed on their foreheads! :imp:

Sadly nothing will change, you never know one of the other campaign groups may win and we will all be banned from city centres and have to carry all the goods in by hand.

i dont know how common they are but i saw/heard this thing on lorry and every time the indicator went on it said caution vehicle turning left / right i cant understand why there not on every lorry

chris_g:
i dont know how common they are but i saw/heard this thing on lorry and every time the indicator went on it said caution vehicle turning left / right i cant understand why there not on every lorry

Well, since pedestrians blithely ignore the “Caution, vehicle reversing” announcements, do you really think that cyclists (who after all are just pedestrians on wheels) will take any notice of an announcement about turning? And how would you go on at a cross-roads when half of 'em would be turning left and half right? It’d just be one more noise for people to ignore.

I’ve done that course as part of the DCPC. It taught me nothing that I didn’t already know about cycling or driving.

We at the LCC have been campaigning to improve the equipment on lorries and for all drivers to have extra training including sessions riding a bike.

I got no problem with that so long as cyclists must spend a day in a truck to see it from our side. Maybe when they realise how little we can actually see from our seats they might give us a wider berth.