albion motors.

pete smith:

cargo:
I’ve never noticed it before but your UK front mudguards on the LAD cabs are wider than ours were in Aus.
ERGO cabbed AEC’s had wider front guards than Leylands, but this is the first time I’ve seen different guards on LAD’s.

Eddies pic of the blue LAD Chieftain has got Clydesdale front mudguards fitted,go to page one and look at Bewick’s and Millers Chieftains as they have correct mudguards

It may just be a case of these Retro motors being rebuilt with whatever parts are available,those fron’t mudguards look like they could be “Leyland” spec to me.Cheers Bewick.

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:


Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

Pete the third from the left in the photo has a cab the same as your one with the one piece screen. It is many moons since I took that . Eddie.

old 67:

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:

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Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

Our paths must have crossed sometime, I did Manchester in the 60s for Bridges Transport and used the Co-op canteen on Ducie st for dinner.

This was the front guard width in Aus and you’re correct, the earlier photos on page 1 appear to have this size too.
Hated the wider guard on the AEC, always kicked the paint off when getting in.
We didn’t seem to have the wheel spray on the mirrors quite so much as I’ve read about on UK forums. Perhaps our extended brackets and larger than factory mirrors moved them out of the spray?
Small factory mirrors rattled around so much it was impossible to see anything.
Our later ERGOs came from new with the same mirrors and brackets as these old girls.

Jakdaw:

old 67:

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:

Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

Our paths must have crossed sometime, I did Manchester in the 60s for Bridges Transport and used the Co-op canteen on Ducie st for dinner.

Bridges lorries and ours were all over Manchester in the 60s,so no doubt our paths did cross.Along with other regional carriers we all seemed to collect " our bit " from the same firms every day.
I remember the friendly rivalry between us Ripponden mates and you lads…who had the most drops, who had the best lorry etc.It was us of course :wink: , although I must admit I envyed the double seat,(good for a kip on the way back) in your Bedford TKs !!
This is the only photo of Bridges I have come across,besides those in " the book ".
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Regards. John.
P.S Do not understand why this one looks so " rough " your lorrys always looked very smart in my recollection.

old 67:

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:

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Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

:smiley: Well well well, where did you find that? It brings back a lot of memories. Thank you very much. Old John who I mentioned was John Gillings, a good man in every sense, he knew I was keen and he kept allowing me small “treats”. “Move it up Brian,… have a go at reversing into that loading bay but be careful”, things like that. Happy days indeed.
Ripponden and Harrisons were the two main players in the Yorks.–Lancs. trade, we likely did the same rounds 5 days a week.

Glad you liked the photo, Brian. My driver was just the same as yours,taught me to drive,a bit at a time,around Manchester Centre.
We used to collect lots of textile “piece goods” from the many merchants in the city. I remember backing into some of them tight “hovels” with the metal kerbs,and bringing the goods down from the 5th floor or where ever.We used to get a small tip from many of them on a friday.As you say very happy memories,they cant take them away eh? :wink:
Regards. John.

old 67:

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:

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Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

That’s not a Chieftain, it’s older that that, a KL127 built 1935-41, when Albion used model numbers, names came later. And re; the width of the front wings on an LAD, the wide wings were fitted to the 16 ton 4 wheelers with the wide track axle/10 stud wheels, narrow on artics and smaller 4 wheelers on 8 stud.
Bernard

albion1938:

old 67:

grumpy old man:

rigsby:
man up brian , you’ve done it before , only one pull if you set it up properly . on the other hand you could wind the wife up first and put her on the handle , i bet it would start then . cheers , dave

Aye, 2 men and a lad (me) , a rope, and a 6LW. Get it set just ■■■■ on and it would go first time. :smiley:

The very first motor I ever moved was an Albion Chieften, it was a Harrisons of Dewsbury machine, I was a van lad, and we were in Ducie St. Manchester.
One day old John who was the driver said “bring it up the street a bit Brian…and be careful”. Start of a very happy career on the road. :slight_smile:

Is this your Chieftain ? , could even be Ducie St. I too started my career as a van lad round Manchester for Ripponden and Distrct.
Regards. John.

That’s not a Chieftain, it’s older that that, a KL127 built 1935-41, when Albion used model numbers, names came later. And re; the width of the front wings on an LAD, the wide wings were fitted to the 16 ton 4 wheelers with the wide track axle/10 stud wheels, narrow on artics and smaller 4 wheelers on 8 stud.
Bernard

Sorry I should have known better, should have checked with my old mate "Albion Jack Butterworth " :blush: :blush:
Apologies to ROF also,is this any better ?


Regards. John.

It wasn’t me. John.
But I’ll put your apology on hold, just in case you upset me in the future! :wink:

Retired Old ■■■■:
It wasn’t me. John.
But I’ll put your apology on hold, just in case you upset me in the future! :wink:

Sorry ROF,sorry GOM, I am off to bed now,not had a drink today so must be my age !! :blush:
Regards. John.

erfguy:
Pete the third from the left in the photo has a cab the same as your one with the one piece screen. It is many moons since I took that . Eddie.

I’ve only ever seen one other pilot cab in the flesh and that was on a Reiver,possibly a tipper,i can remember the Haytons? sale for one reason an LAD cab in first class order went for something like 12k.Do you know of any restorations out of the collection Eddie? ta,Pete

old 67:

Retired Old ■■■■:
It wasn’t me. John.
But I’ll put your apology on hold, just in case you upset me in the future! :wink:

Sorry ROF,sorry GOM, I am off to bed now,not had a drink today so must be my age !! :blush:
Regards. John.

Definitely the age, matey. I speak from experience!

Retired Old ■■■■:

old 67:

Retired Old ■■■■:
It wasn’t me. John.
But I’ll put your apology on hold, just in case you upset me in the future! :wink:

Sorry ROF,sorry GOM, I am off to bed now,not had a drink today so must be my age !! :blush:
Regards. John.

Definitely the age, matey. I speak from experience!

Are you out and about with your camera on Gravel Run tomorrow Mr ROF?

Hi, Pete,
Yes, but I’ve just looked at the weather forecast!!!
I’ve emailed Dan but I expect he’ll be too busy to reply- can you confirm that the run will be via the 523 Macc to Leek? I’ve got a couple of decent locations lined up on that road so I hope the weather holds.
PS. Can’t afford the fuel to come any further out- Basic State Pension & all that. Not that I want to harp on about it, of course! :wink: :wink: :wink:

Forget that one, Pete- I’ve just had a call confirming. ROF

It is a shame that the road run coincides with the Festival of Transport show near Friden, I reckon that it might just affect the numbers at both event’s?

Pete.

Another CX7,bought new by JN Millers,sold to AA Peate near Oswestry and bought back by Millers and burnt up for scrap :frowning:

Pete I don’t know much about them but Gerald/leyland600 would know I think. Eddie.