What course do you need to do haul Nitrogen Fertiliser to farms. Does it need renewal each year?
TIA
dougal1:
What course do you need to do haul Nitrogen Fertiliser to farms. Does it need renewal each year?TIA
google suggests ADR Core module, Packages module, AND Class 5: Oxidising agents ( but the course will probably be all classes)
afaik it lasts 5 years
Dieseldave will correct me soon 
only need adr if its over a certain %nitrogen afaikyoull manage most blends without a adr ticket but im sure someone who knows for definate will be along
think dingo shifts fert from time to time
yes you will need adr for some types of fert as others say it depends on the % of the mix some types will not and you will need the licence with you before loading at some places
did mine last year and then loaded out of ince and never got asked even when loading the adr stuff !!
mind dont expect to get rich as the rates are crap!
if you are a farmer you wont save much by collecting it yourself ex works as i tried last year for some local farmers and it was cheaper to have it sent to you than i could buy it without haulage !!
moose
you need an adr for 5.1 and 5.2 in packages too haul nitrogen fertilizer, also you need too join fias which is this agindustries.org.uk/content. … /FIAS.mspx too haul fertiliser for some companys, renew your fias every year and adr every 5 years
all i have ever needed was a curtainsider
I quite often deliver (non ADR) ingredients to fert manufacturers in my bulker and all the ones I’ve been to seem to be very strict that they must see (and in most cases photocopy) the driver’s ADR licence for every load that goes out.
Paul
dougal1:
What course do you need to do haul Nitrogen Fertiliser to farms. Does it need renewal each year?TIA
Hi dougal1,
Since you’ve posted in this forum, am I correct in assuming that you own your own truck(s) please?
For now, I’m leaving aside the FIAS scheme, but you may need to consider it.
As correctly stated above, there are different ‘grades’ of fertiliser, so the UN Number (either UN 2067 or UN 2071) would be useful info to help me advise you of whether the fertiliser that you intend to carry would be subject to ADR or not. You can get this info from the consignor.
To save me going through several scenarios, my second question is to ask you whether the fertiliser is to be carried loose in bulk, or whether it’s to be carried in flexible IBCs, which count as packages please?
The amount of fertiliser to be carried on a vehicle each trip would also be helpful info. You can also get this info from the consignor.
As correctly stated above, you’d need ADR core, Packs and at least UN Class 5 for some fertilisers from an ADR licencing point of view.
If this is necessary, there are some ADR providers who have a specific ADR course authorised that would cover just what you’d need for the fertiliser job, which needs just two days to complete, including the necessary ADR exams. I’ve taught such courses for several ADR providers.
IF some fertilisers are carried loose in bulk, then extra security measures will apply, because some fertilisers meet the definition of High Consequence Dangerous Goods (HCDG.)
If you’re talking of the fertiliser that’s subject to the HCDG provisions, then you’ll need to have a security plan and HCDG cards to issue to your driver(s)
Also, if it’s the kind of fertiliser that’s subject to ADR, then you’ll also need to appoint a Dangerous Goods Safety Adviser (DGSA) in order to be compliant with ADR.
repton:
I quite often deliver (non ADR) ingredients to fert manufacturers in my bulker and all the ones I’ve been to seem to be very strict that they must see (and in most cases photocopy) the driver’s ADR licence for every load that goes out.Paul
You on the Ince run Paul?
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.
renaultman:
You on the Ince run Paul?
I’ve done Ince a couple of times but they pretty much all seem to be hot on it now from what I can remember. Presumably given how strict they are there must be some law that makes the manufacturer partly responsible if they send it out illegally or something along those lines.
Paul
renaultman:
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.
Hi renaultman,
That’ll be because the UN 2067 is counted as HCDG, and they’re scared witless of it falling into the wrong hands.
There’s also an ADR requirement that the consignor only loads carriers that have correctly identified, hence the extra rigmarole involved.
dieseldave:
renaultman:
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.Hi renaultman,
That’ll be because the UN 2067 is counted as HCDG, and they’re scared witless of it falling into the wrong hands.
There’s also an ADR requirement that the consignor only loads carriers that have correctly identified, hence the extra rigmarole involved.
dont know if this is true but the place i collect un 2067 product from was saying there is a whisper that drivers may need to get security vetted and licenced too haul said product, dont know how true it is maybe dave will know more about it.
scotstrucker:
dieseldave:
renaultman:
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.Hi renaultman,
That’ll be because the UN 2067 is counted as HCDG, and they’re scared witless of it falling into the wrong hands.
There’s also an ADR requirement that the consignor only loads carriers that have correctly identified, hence the extra rigmarole involved.
dont know if this is true but the place i collect un 2067 product from was saying there is a whisper that drivers may need to get security vetted and licenced too haul said product, dont know how true it is maybe dave will know more about it.
Then it gets dumped in a framer’s barn 
scotstrucker:
dieseldave:
renaultman:
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.Hi renaultman,
That’ll be because the UN 2067 is counted as HCDG, and they’re scared witless of it falling into the wrong hands.
There’s also an ADR requirement that the consignor only loads carriers that have correctly identified, hence the extra rigmarole involved.
dont know if this is true but the place i collect un 2067 product from was saying there is a whisper that drivers may need to get security vetted and licenced too haul said product, dont know how true it is maybe dave will know more about it.
Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve heard nothing on the grapevine, but I wouldn’t discount that idea cos it’s quite possible that the Govt. may tighten the requirements at some point if they think the terrorist threat is heightened for some reason.
dieseldave:
scotstrucker:
dieseldave:
renaultman:
The ADR Gestapo were always particularly strict there.Hi renaultman,
That’ll be because the UN 2067 is counted as HCDG, and they’re scared witless of it falling into the wrong hands.
There’s also an ADR requirement that the consignor only loads carriers that have correctly identified, hence the extra rigmarole involved.
dont know if this is true but the place i collect un 2067 product from was saying there is a whisper that drivers may need to get security vetted and licenced too haul said product, dont know how true it is maybe dave will know more about it.
Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve heard nothing on the grapevine, but I wouldn’t discount that idea cos it’s quite possible that the Govt. may tighten the requirements at some point if they think the terrorist threat is heightened for some reason.
It will be in the fias sercurity section, crb check for all employees involved basically.
You may also have a visit from vosa to check your sercurity arrangements, including your yard/parking, we’ve had all the above.