Hey, Let’s look at the concepts and designs of cabs in the old days. Of course I am looking a bit in the case of the continent,but about other would be nice too.
the Scania Vabis LB76 was in my view outdated from it’s launch in '63. look at some pics of competitors from the same time.The Merc the most advanced even with the lack of a tillting cab. which only Volvo could offer in '64 or '63 in the mid-class and the Ergo at the same time. The Tiptop Volvo cab was a real revolutionary but became soon outdated after about some years at the and of the '60’s. As all other offered tillting cabs as Scania LB110,MAN,Merc with the LP update,Büssing and so many other. but with such a success the Volvo kept further selling .
Cheers Eric,
Yes, the LB76 cab was, as far as I can gather, smaller than the 2600 or the LP. In terms of styling, it looked more like a 1950s vehicle than any of the new cabs for the '60s, except maybe the L4951 Tiptop, which looked like a 1950s American lorry (for obvious reasons)- a GMC Crackerbox crossed with an International Emeryville, to my eye. Given that the LB76 was only in production for five years, I am tempted to wonder why Scania-Vabis did not persevere with the LV75- I can only guess that there was more profit in the fully pressed steel LB76 cab, than the coachbuilt jobs on the LV. Plus, there is usually more profit in making something, rather than letting someone else do it! Am I right in saying that Scania Vabis had taken over BeGe by 1963?
Regarding the actual function of the LB76 cab, one of the posters on here (I think it was Autotransit) said he preferred it to the LP Mercedes, because it was trimmed more comfortably. This Dutch long-cab job certainly looks the part:
the erf range were cramped and outdated , a&b series that is , but when they produced the motor panels cab it was streets ahead and ripe for further development . alas they plodded on with the c and e series and it wasn’t until the ec range with the olympic cab that they offered anything to compete with the continental marques . british manufacturers engineered their own demise . cheers , dave
rigsby:
the erf range were cramped and outdated , a&b series that is , but when they produced the motor panels cab it was streets ahead and ripe for further development . alas they plodded on with the c and e series and it wasn’t until the ec range with the olympic cab that they offered anything to compete with the continental marques . british manufacturers engineered their own demise . cheers , dave
As I remember it, the comics were saying that the E series was more or less up to the mark, when it was launched in 1986/7. Admittedly it lacked a “Gloebetrotter” version.
it may have ben up to the mark for drivability , but there was still nowhere to keep your gear when you were away all week , and the only storage for equipment was under the bunk , cheers , dave
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anorak:
Yes, the LB76 cab was, as far as I can gather, smaller than the 2600 or the LP. In terms of styling, it looked more like a 1950s vehicle than any of the new cabs for the '60s, except maybe the L4951 Tiptop, which looked like a 1950s American lorry (for obvious reasons)- a GMC Crackerbox crossed with an International Emeryville, to my eye. Given that the LB76 was only in production for five years, I am tempted to wonder why Scania-Vabis did not persevere with the LV75- I can only guess that there was more profit in the fully pressed steel LB76 cab, than the coachbuilt jobs on the LV. Plus, there is usually more profit in making something, rather than letting someone else do it! Am I right in saying that Scania Vabis had taken over BeGe by 1963?
Regarding the actual function of the LB76 cab, one of the posters on here (I think it was Autotransit) said he preferred it to the LP Mercedes, because it was trimmed more comfortably. This Dutch long-cab job certainly looks the part:
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Hey Anorak, I agree the LB76 was more drivefriendly had a better heating system as the merc LP and of course was more more powerfull.
Only overheating was a problem,but with that design of cab Merc had the same problem in the '50’s with the LP326/334 Pullman cabbed ones.
An anecdote about power,the first a bit powerful Merc was the 1924 (240hp nett) and had a ZF 12 speed and was very high geared. And you could hold on because of the 12 speeds. As it was out on the market German drivers knew, lots of Scania’s were non turbo’s 195/202HP(76/110) and low geared so they overtook you honking like mad.
greetings Eric,
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yes thescania vabis was out from begining ,but this SISU kb 112 whit tilt cab from 62 was not ,unfortunaly it was build in finland ,not sweeden so it didn,t fly out to euromarket,but a good lorry whit powerplus and fuller ,had been even better whit DS11 and fuller 
Hey Benkuu should you have pics about the interior of this cabs,would be nice.
bye Eric,
Hey, At the and of the '60’s beginning '70’s. which British could withstand this ones. Motor panels cabbed ERF, SA 400 ■■? We had here some ERF Eurocabbed ones and they looked great ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ looking front,nice inside.
You see how fast a revolutionary begin/mid '60’s cab can be outdated in a few years.
Bye Eric,
hej eric this is the only picture i find ,and i borowed it from a magazine called VANHAT KONEET and foto by illka kekko, it,s aSISU kb117 (two axled artic from 64 now restaurated
bma.finland:
hej eric this is the only picture i find ,and i borowed it from a magazine called VANHAT KONEET and foto by illka kekko, it,s aSISU kb117 (two axled artic from 64 now restaurated
Hey Benkuu, Thanks, it looks reasonable inside. I think it has beter look out and inside,if it was comfortable as the LB76 to drive and live in it would be the better.Is the cab built by SISU or is it a buy in.
Do you have pic of it of the outside with (trailer??).
Cheers Eric,
tiptop495:
bma.finland:
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hej eric this is the only picture i find ,and i borowed it from a magazine called VANHAT KONEET and foto by illka kekko, it,s aSISU kb117 (two axled artic from 64 now restaurated
Hey Benkuu, Thanks, it looks reasonable inside. I think it has beter look out and inside,if it was comfortable as the LB76 to drive and live in it would be the better.Is the cab built by SISU or is it a buy in.
Do you have pic of it of the outside with (trailer??).
Cheers Eric,
no pic it was a very rare one about 70 build betveen 63 to 68 ,the cab was holy sisu design and built,and about the driving i ofcouse don,t know ,but as a scania fanatic i had been happy if the plan that scania and sisu had some part excange had come true in the 60,s it had made good for bouth,i belive,cheers benkku PS leyland and scania owned 15% each of sisu in late 60,s ,a reason they used leyland components was leyland was owner of scears longer(means earlyer)
