hi all
i have a 3 day adr course soon im guessing 7-8 hrs a day then test on 4th day does any one know what this will involve how hard it is?? also does the 3 days count towards cpc as in classroom■■?
See the ADR sticky in the Safety law and WTD forum
hodgeR500:
hi all
i have a 3 day adr course soon im guessing 7-8 hrs a day then test on 4th day does any one know what this will involve how hard it is?? also does the 3 days count towards cpc as in classroom■■?
ADR can count as DCPC but depends on the training provider. Not all does.
hodgeR500:
hi all
i have a 3 day adr course soon im guessing 7-8 hrs a day then test on 4th day does any one know what this will involve how hard it is??
Hi hodgeR500,
Most ADR providers start at 08:30 or 09:00.
Normally, the ADR teaching/learning day goes like this…
- 1.5hrs, then tea break (usually 15mins)
- 1.5hrs, then lunch break (usually 45mins)
- 1.5hrs, then tea break (usually 15mins)
- 1.5hrs, then home time.
hodgeR500:
… also does the 3 days count towards cpc as in classroom■■?
Some ADR providers have registered their course separately with JAUPT/DSA for DCPC, so if your provider is one of those, you can reckon on 1 extra hour to bring the day up to the 7hr minimum requirement for DCPC.
As for how hard it is, I can guarantee that every exam question is multiple choice and that the questions are non-technical. If you have a good instructor and you listen and take part, then you should find the exams surprisingly straightforward.
I’ll be here if you get stuck. 
As with most ““training”” eg dcpc its all a load of bollox just put there to screw a bit more money out of you.Ive not renewed mine this time sick of paying out to the leeches to hear the same old crap every 5 bloody years.
Wouldnt mind so much but the last time I ““refreshed”” my hazchem the bloke who was ““training”” me had never bloody driven a road barrel never mind discharged one!!
Easy money if you can get it eh.
As they say “those who can do those who cant teach” but you got to find some kind of job they can have a go at.Next time your in a "“cpc training” session ask your man why a truck has detachable top wings on the rear axle.Gaurantee you will get some laughable answers.
4 hours later and still no responce from these “fonts of knowledge” strange ?
If its all to do with transportation of hazardous goods in a safe manner how come none of these “experts” never explain earthing tanks,leaving kick valves open,sampling procedures,wash out procedures,hot wash dangers,tremcard production.
Seems to me this should be left to professionals who have done the job not some waannabee.
Bking:
As with most ““training”” eg dcpc its all a load of bollox just put there to screw a bit more money out of you.Ive not renewed mine this time sick of paying out to the leeches to hear the same old crap every 5 bloody years.
Hi Bking,
It’s hardly fair of you to call an ADR course “the same old crap,” because ADR is completely rewritten and republished every TWO years, never mind that you only refresh every 5 years.
The teaching syllabus and timetables are amended accordingly too.
Anyway, some things have changed, and so might surprise you.
Bking:
Wouldnt mind so much but the last time I ““refreshed”” my hazchem the bloke who was ““training”” me had never bloody driven a road barrel never mind discharged one!!
I’m sorry that you seem to have a poor opinion of ADR instructors, but you clearly have a case for a complaint to SQA if your instructor cannot impart his experiences of tankers, becasuse that is a requirement set by SQA.
BTW, my experience of tankers was gained when I worked for Imperial Tankers and British Gas.
Bking:
Easy money if you can get it eh.
If you take that as a snapshot, then yes it is, but have you any idea of what it takes to get qualified to teach ADR?
Bking:
As they say “those who can do those who cant teach” but you got to find some kind of job they can have a go at.Next time your in a "“cpc training” session ask your man why a truck has detachable top wings on the rear axle.Gaurantee you will get some laughable answers.
Actually, I have a choice of jobs that I can do, but I choose to teach.
Bking:
4 hours later and still no responce from these “fonts of knowledge” strange ?
Sorry mate, but I was working. 
We used to remove wing tops so that we could fit snow-chains, or if we were a ‘bit’ heavy on the pin, cos we didn’t have fancy air-bags that kept inflating and keeping the bodywork off the springs.
Bking:
If its all to do with transportation of hazardous goods in a safe manner how come none of these “experts” never explain earthing tanks,leaving kick valves open,sampling procedures,wash out procedures,hot wash dangers,
When a tanker course is “refreshed,” the time allowed for teaching is 1.5hrs.
On an initial ADR course, the tanker module lasts for approx 1.5 days, so if YOU ran a refresher course, which bits of the 1.5 day course would you leave out so that the required info for passing the exam is covered in 1.5hrs?
On an initial course, I cover the subjects that you’ve mentioned, but I also include the hazards of static electricity and liquid surge. I also cover the >20% - <80% loading rule and the new regime for tank approval.
Bking:
tremcard production.
The requirement to carry Tremcards ended on 01/01/2009.
Bking:
Seems to me this should be left to professionals who have done the job not some waannabee.
Agreed mate, and for the record, you and I are actually on the same hymnsheet cos I really wish that SQA would get rid of the few remaining duffers.
To be fair to SQA though, their team of external verifiers (inspectors) are pretty sharp.
Bking:
If its all to do with transportation of hazardous goods in a safe manner how come none of these “experts” never explain earthing tanks,leaving kick valves open,sampling procedures,wash out procedures,hot wash dangers,tremcard production.Seems to me this should be left to professionals who have done the job not some waannabee.
Not very familiar with modern or sterile cleans are we?
Kick valves is a new one on me I am afraid. I have however heard of Foot Valves which seal at the foot of the tank, normally the lowest part of the tanker shell
Bking:
Next time your in a "“cpc training” session ask your man why a truck has detachable top wings on the rear axle.Gaurantee you will get some laughable answers.
Dear me you are a little ‘anti-trainers’ aren’t you?
Why a truck has detachable wing tops? - would that be so that you can take them off? 
I have to say I don’t have a definitive answer for this. I would imagine there are many reasons they are fitted. As already mentioned it must make fitting of snow chains etc a bit easier. They allow access to check your tyre tread properly. They also allow for low-ride unit and trailer so the trailer doesn’t foul the wing tops - but of course the removed bits must be on the vehicle somewhere for when the trailer is dropped. I am sure there are other reasons known by many - but which one started it all off I have no idea.