ADR

If the orange plate on your unit is not fixed on perminantly ie held on with a bungie, is this legal? Also wot can the penaltys be for missing adr equipment ?

The plate has to be visible, so as long as it doesn’t fall off, should be fine.

What do you mean ‘missing adr equipment?’

Thereal-john:
If the orange plate on your unit is not fixed on perminantly ie held on with a bungie, is this legal? Also wot can the penaltys be for missing adr equipment ?

The plate has to be in the right plane and must remain visible for 15 minutes in a fire, will a bungee strap last 5 minutes?

Thereal-john:
If the orange plate on your unit is not fixed on perminantly ie held on with a bungie, is this legal? Also wot can the penaltys be for missing adr equipment ?

Hi John,

Here’s what ADR says about the orange plates:

5.3.2.2.1
The orange-coloured plates shall be reflectorized and shall be of 40 cm base and of 30 cm high; they shall have a black border of 15 mm wide. The material used shall be weather resistant and ensure durable marking. The plate shall not become detached from its mount in the event of 15 minutes’ engulfment in fire. It shall remain affixed irrespective of the orientation of the vehicle.

Due to the part of the quote that I’ve made red, I agree with Malc above and wouldn’t have thought that a bungee would be acceptable for securing your orange plate if you get checked.

As for any possible penalties for the orange plate or missing ADR equipment; these would normally be the responsibility of the vehicle owner, but NOT an employed driver.

The most that normally happens if you’re pulled by VOSA is that the vehicle would receive a prohibition notice (instant or deferred,) which remains in force until the vehicle is ADR compliant. However, I wouldn’t like to second guess what the police might do in the same situation.

TIP
The plate needs to be either foldable, or removable for times when you are carrying less than the relevant ADR Transport Category load limit, or when no dangerous goods are on board, so a permanent visible display of orange plates isn’t an option.
Propping the front orange plate on the dashboard to be visible through the windscreen from outside is also a big no-no.

And if the plate is fixed permanently and you use a cover when not in use, that cover must also be able to withstand being engulfed in fire. Gone are the days of the plastic covers over the Kemler plate.

I think some of those covers were asbestos or flame-proof, but not all.

Thanks chaps, all that info helps
John

If you want it removable then you could drill it and fit a chain with dog clip maybe?

skids:
If you want it removable then you could drill it and fit a chain with dog clip maybe?

Hi skids,

I’ve seen that method before and I can’t imagine anybody getting any grief from the enforcement authorities as long as the plate conforms to 5.3.2.2.1 .

dieseldave:

skids:
If you want it removable then you could drill it and fit a chain with dog clip maybe?

Hi skids,

I’ve seen that method before and I can’t imagine anybody getting any grief from the enforcement authorities as long as the plate conforms to 5.3.2.2.1 .

Dave
thats the same method that we use on our flat trailers for shifting bulk fuel tanks that are full, i got pulled on sun night at Perry Barr and they said about the plate on the trailer being held on by chains and dog clips that it makes a change from seeing it held on with cable ties or string :smiley: