Anybody know if you can get Career Development Loans to do ADR Training? Or are there any other avenues? Any help or advice appreciated.
NB
When I type in ADR into this boards search facility it comes up with ‘no matches’. Why should this be? Then when I type in ‘Funding’ there’s loads of results.
The search facility does not search for anything less than 4 letters as far as I can tell.
Which area of the UK are you in ?
you could pay for it out of your own pocket. then claim it back from the tax man, as it is a legitamate career advancement, therefore it is tax deductable.
just like the driver cpc.
ROG:
Which area of the UK are you in ?
I’m in South Wales but would my location have any bearing on the CDT? Maybe you know more ROG…
Limeyphil,
Thanks. That’s worth knowing but is it still the case with me not being self-employed? I wouldn’t want my present employer to know that I want to do it either as they don’t do any ADR work. 
I’ve heard different stories about how these are easier to get hold of in certain parts of the UK in relation to others - seems to be easier if the area of the UK you are in is a designated ‘deprived area’
it has nothing to do with you being employed or self employed. all you do is phone up your tax office and ask for form p87.
fill out the relevent parts. they will send you a booklet, photocopy the section that applies to you, highlight it, then staple it to the form.
the reason for this, is because the form is usually used by bmw drivers, who claim mileage allowance. some of the hmrc staff don’t realise it can be used for other expenses too.
Thank you both for the replies. Here is the form P87 I believe.
hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/tax-allow-ees.htm
It doesn’t mention anything about Career Development or the like. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place. Did take this avenue limeyphil or just heard from somebody about it?
By Jove. Limey. I think you may have got it.
When you can get tax relief for professional fees and subscriptions
It may be that in order to do your job you need to have your name included on a professional register or to have a special licence. Or it could be that it’s very helpful to belong to an organisation whose activities are relevant to your work. Either way you’ll pay registration fees or membership subscriptions - usually every year. You may be able to deduct the cost of these from your taxable income and reduce the amount of tax you pay.
You can get tax relief on professional fees and subscriptions as long as:
- you have your name on a register, hold a licence or are a member of the organisation in question because it’s necessary or relevant to your work
it took me 3 attempts to get my money from them. but it came in time for christmas.
hgv lessons, hgv test, licence fee, medical, boots x 2 pairs. there was some other things. but i can’t remember what they were.
have you tried your local council for funding not sure how they work tbh
normally Economic Development Fund
but you can claim it back on your tax as has been said as you can with boots & any other clothing (PPE ) that you buy for work
prostitutes don’t give receipts.
however, HMRC don’t ask for receipts with form p87. just put it down as left ■■■■■■, or right ■■■■■■ training. 
limeyphil:
prostitutes don’t give receipts.
however, HMRC don’t ask for receipts with form p87. just put it down as left ■■■■■■, or right ■■■■■■ training.
In scotland, there is the ILA, which gives you £200 towards training. ilascotland.org.uk/ILA+Homepage.htm
And there is something similar in Wales. It’s not a loan so there is nothing to pay back.
wales.gov.uk/topics/educationand … =1&lang=en
I’ve been granted an ILA but haven’t used it yet.
I’m also going for my ADR on the 23rd Nov, funded by the government. 
I’m disabled and was made redundant in June and have got 100% funding for the course, as there’s money set aside to help disabled people back into work.
Andrew Leitch:
In scotland, there is the ILA, which gives you £200 towards training. ilascotland.org.uk/ILA+Homepage.htm
And there is something similar in Wales. It’s not a loan so there is nothing to pay back.
wales.gov.uk/topics/educationand … =1&lang=enI’ve been granted an ILA but haven’t used it yet.
I’m also going for my ADR on the 23rd Nov, funded by the government.
Without wishing to sound rude…how disabled can you be if you are pursuing a driving career?
Unless you are using the ADR for something else?
Andrew Leitch:
In scotland, there is the ILA, which gives you £200 towards training. ilascotland.org.uk/ILA+Homepage.htm
And there is something similar in Wales. It’s not a loan so there is nothing to pay back.
wales.gov.uk/topics/educationand … =1&lang=enI’ve been granted an ILA but haven’t used it yet.
I’m also going for my ADR on the 23rd Nov, funded by the government.
Without wishing to sound rude…how disabled can you be if you are pursuing a driving career?
Unless you are using the ADR for something else?
Disability covers many forms but I’m not in a wheel-chair if that’s what your idea of disability is.
I could quite easily sit on my backside for the rest of my life and have a reasonable life on benefits but I’d rather earn a living and pay my way rather than sponge off the state.
I did not think for one second you would be in a wheelchair…i understand that disability covers a wide spectrum.
Just wondering what level of disability is compatible with driving LGV/PCV’s, mainly because of the medical standards applied.
DonutUK:
Without wishing to sound rude…how disabled can you be if you are pursuing a driving career?Unless you are using the ADR for something else?
Hi DonutUK, Equally not being rude, I’m disabled too, and have been since 1995.
These days, disability has a different definition and perception to what it had even just a few years ago. I’m still quite capable of driving a truck and continued Euro tramping for a while after being told that I was disabled. After that I did UK work for about 7-8 years.
For my own reasons, I decided to become an ADR instructor and consultant DGSA, so I consider myself fortunate to still be able to be useful in the industry I love, albeit in a different role. Speaking for myself, my disability doesn’t need to be notified to DVLA, although I did come very close at one stage before my doctor had got to grips with the problem.
My doctor said that I’ll be alright if I keep taking the tablets!! 
To cover your point/question about the possible other uses of an ADR licence; its primary purpose is to allow a vehicle driver to carry packged dangerous goods over and above certain limits and/or to allow the driver to driver a tank vehicle/tank container carrying dangerous goods. Another purpose that it might serve is to act as ‘ADR awareness’ for somebody who might wish to work in an office role.
The ADR driver course is aimed at drivers, and doesn’t teach how to arrive at the various limits as that isn’t part of a driver’s remit as defined in ADR. In that case, our office worker would need extra training covering his/her specific function and duties within the company. It is a matter for the legally required DGSA to identify training needs and see to it that the requirements are complied with, so the DGSA can deliver that training personally, or can arrange for a qualified trainer to carry it out. This function specific training ISN’T covered on a driver course, because the definitions and remits the participants in ADR were changed in the UK as from midnight on 09/05/2004, so anybody who might think otherwise is only showing how far out-of-date they are.
Ader1:
Anybody know if you can get Career Development Loans to do ADR Training? Or are there any other avenues? Any help or advice appreciated.
Hi Ader1, As mentioned by ROG, the UK coverage of Career Development Loans seems to be patchy with different rules and different criteria applying in defferent parts of the UK, not just Scotland/Wales, but also at county/regional level in England.
I can say for sure that I’ve trained several drivers on ADR who have Welsh addresses and who all told me that there is funding available from the Welsh Assembly that they didn’t have to repay. Do you live in Wales by any chance??
If so, I might have an idea… 
Ader1:
NB
When I type in ADR into this boards search facility it comes up with ‘no matches’. Why should this be? Then when I type in ‘Funding’ there’s loads of results.
If you check the Safety and Law forum, there’s a ‘sticky’ to cover ADR questions, so that they’re kept together for easy reference. Sometimes, the question has been asked before, so the answer might be just a couple of mouse-clicks away. I don’t recall your exact question being asked before though…
i am classed as being disabled but you may not think when you 1st meet & have had funding for a few things like my flt class c ect
but have you not seen the 1 arm driver( black volvo ) yes seen him fueling up
have heard bout the 1 leg driver understand out of soton on boxes
fundin is available depends on where you live & what the circumstances are