Is there another industry where the rules say the driver must stop corrosive leaks with a bucket,and to clean up any mess from flammables,insectides,and so on,then the gas leaks and fuel leaks.
Would a train driver contain a haz problem,the pilot with hydraulic oil from his contols,the ferry or ship captain,no they would have all the fire crew waiting to assist.
If you sit the ADR course,the driver is more like a fireman until help arrives,if it is that dangerous,is it best to run at high speed away from the trailer that is going to explode and get you on the prime time tv news.?
A gas tanker driver died,years ago,his truck went down an embankment,the gas was heavier than air,he suffocated while trying to help others and warn the public to stay away.
toby1234abc:
Is there another industry where the rules say the driver must stop corrosive leaks with a bucket,and to clean up any mess from flammables,insectides,and so on,then the gas leaks and fuel leaks.
Would a train driver contain a haz problem,the pilot with hydraulic oil from his contols,the ferry or ship captain,no they would have all the fire crew waiting to assist.
If you sit the ADR course,the driver is more like a fireman until help arrives,if it is that dangerous,is it best to run at high speed away from the trailer that is going to explode and get you on the prime time tv news.?
A gas tanker driver died,years ago,his truck went down an embankment,the gas was heavier than air,he suffocated while trying to help others and warn the public to stay away.
Toby the rules do not tell you to do that, they tell you to wear suitable clothing and warn others. Nowhere do they tell you to put yourself or others in danger.
You just need to remember to grab a fire extinguisher and discharge it side of the road as some insurance firms won’t pay out if its not been used I worked for a firm with fridges where that was the case
K5Project:
You just need to remember to grab a fire extinguisher and discharge it side of the road as some insurance firms won’t pay out if its not been used I worked for a firm with fridges where that was the case
what were you carrying in fridges that was subject to adr regs 
green456:
K5Project:
You just need to remember to grab a fire extinguisher and discharge it side of the road as some insurance firms won’t pay out if its not been used I worked for a firm with fridges where that was the casewhat were you carrying in fridges that was subject to adr regs
There are some things that are temp controlled ADR
Well not just ADR its a general thing if you don’t’ use your fire extinguishers insurance has a excuse not to pay out…
but I know several company’s what use there Fridge van trailers to carry ADR with the fridge off (then wash them out and collect cakes and frozen food)and as about for temp controlled ADR
K5Project:
Well not just ADR its a general thing if you don’t’ use your fire extinguishers insurance has a excuse not to pay out…
but I know several company’s what use there Fridge van trailers to carry ADR with the fridge off (then wash them out and collect cakes and frozen food)and as about for temp controlled ADR
oh ok, but generally unless carrying adr you wont have a f e to let off, but what are/was you carrying that that came under adr regs prior to then carrying food stuffs
toby1234abc:
Is there another industry where the rules say the driver must stop corrosive leaks with a bucket,and to clean up any mess from flammables,insectides,and so on,then the gas leaks and fuel leaks.
Toby,
Show me a credible reference to these “rules” and I’ll happily discuss them. 
toby1234abc:
Would a train driver contain a haz problem,the pilot with hydraulic oil from his contols,the ferry or ship captain,no they would have all the fire crew waiting to assist.
…as would a lorry driver.
toby1234abc:
If you sit the ADR course,the driver is more like a fireman until help arrives,
Sorry Toby, either you didn’t listen, or you’re making it up.
Sorry mate, but I simply don’t believe that any ADR instructor told you anything of the sort.
The first thing that a driver considers is his/her own safety, THEN the safety of other people, and lastly, the environment. That’s been the case for longer than the 8 years I’ve been teaching ADR.
Now for a newsflash… on Thursday of last week, I went on an instructor CPD course, and guess what…
That bit still hasn’t changed.
toby1234abc:
A gas tanker driver died,years ago,his truck went down an embankment,the gas was heavier than air,he suffocated while trying to help others and warn the public to stay away.
animal:
green456:
K5Project:
You just need to remember to grab a fire extinguisher and discharge it side of the road as some insurance firms won’t pay out if its not been used I worked for a firm with fridges where that was the casewhat were you carrying in fridges that was subject to adr regs
There are some things that are temp controlled ADR
Indeed there are. 
A number of substances in UN Classes 4.1 and 5.2 are legally required to be carried under temperature control in a highly-specced fridge vehicle. Some of these substances are so dangerous that they have an upper load limit, so there’s not too much of it on a vehicle at any one time.
toby1234abc:
Is there another industry where the rules say the driver must stop corrosive leaks with a bucket,and to clean up any mess from flammables,insectides,and so on,then the gas leaks and fuel leaks.
Would a train driver contain a haz problem,the pilot with hydraulic oil from his contols,the ferry or ship captain,no they would have all the fire crew waiting to assist.
If you sit the ADR course,the driver is more like a fireman until help arrives,if it is that dangerous,is it best to run at high speed away from the trailer that is going to explode and get you on the prime time tv news.?
A gas tanker driver died,years ago,his truck went down an embankment,the gas was heavier than air,he suffocated while trying to help others and warn the public to stay away.
Thing is Toby, a ship’s captain probably would have to deal with problems if stuck out in the middle of the ocean, even though they would have an on board fire-fighting team (from the ships crew) presumably they would have to deal with it.
I remeber seeing something on a documentary about crew on board a nuclear submarine checking for leaking fuel from torpedoes on a regular basis. Also there might be hydraulic, refridgerant and fuel leaks on any type of ship.
bazza123:
Thing is Toby, a ship’s captain probably would have to deal with problems if stuck out in the middle of the ocean, even though they would have an on board fire-fighting team (from the ships crew) presumably they would have to deal with it
Unless he is the captain of a cruise ship
toby1234abc:
Is there another industry where the rules say the driver must stop corrosive leaks with a bucket,and to clean up any mess from flammables,insectides,and so on,then the gas leaks and fuel leaks.
Would a train driver contain a haz problem,the pilot with hydraulic oil from his contols,the ferry or ship captain,no they would have all the fire crew waiting to assist.
If you sit the ADR course,the driver is more like a fireman until help arrives,if it is that dangerous,is it best to run at high speed away from the trailer that is going to explode and get you on the prime time tv news.?
A gas tanker driver died,years ago,his truck went down an embankment,the gas was heavier than air,he suffocated while trying to help others and warn the public to stay away.
There’s lots of people that deal with chemicals etc apart from drivers. Some of it will come under COSHH regs, and yes they have to make it safe where possible…
hse.gov.uk/coshh/basics/emergencies.htm
So yes there is ‘another industry’ that has to do ‘stuff’ , although they don’t specify a bucket !!
The pallet at the bottom of the triple stacker should have been taken away,to make safe,once again great advice from Diesel Dave.