Hi all I have started a new job taking various things to collage’s and hospitals. I have been told that I don’t need an adr licence as the quantity’s of anything that might come under it are small. We are given a separate sheaf of papers with all the “adr bits” on it and their names and quantity’s. I have been told as long as the total is under 1000 units its ok. But is that 1000 total or 1000 of each item. Second question is can you mix loads with potentially dangerous consequences if one spilt onto another. or are these things so well sealed that even if there is a small spillage nothing will happen.
coop
There is no recognised ‘small’ quantities, however they may may ‘limited quantities’.
This would allow you to transport, as the name suggests, limited quantities of hazardous products.
As a driver carrying LQ’s, it is not necessary to undergo full ADR training, however, you should have at least basic training in how to deal with potential hazards of the load, correct vehicle markings and correct paperwork.
In your example, you can carry upto 1000 total packages as a maximum (this may also be quantifiedas 1000kg less any packaging or 1000 litres if the product is a liquid), although this depends on the product transport category (its potential level of hazard). I’m going to assume you’re carrying TC4, the lowest hazard category, in order to carry 1000 units.
As for leakage/spillage, any package carrying hazardous materials should be able to withstand normal transport conditions, but it is not impossible to have a spill if a container is dropped, put under undue stress, or possibly in the event of a crash.
Products that can be reactive with one another should not be carried on the same vehicle, unless certain things can be done to minimize potential risks, such as keeping sufficient distance between different products, or having non-reactive products in between.
I’m sure Diesel Dave will be along shortly and correct anything I’ve got wrong! [emoji3]
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so far I have come nowhere near the 1000 units usually it is a small box today though we had ethanol chlorine-dimeathane acetone isobutonal and something else that the name escapes me (apparently it causes your lungs to fill with fluid if inhaled). I am no chemist as probably can be seen from my spellings of the names lol. But I imagine with that lot on board you wouldn’t want one spilling onto another
You can download an app to a smart device that gives all the information on the UN numbers , what the stuff is , the hazard and how it can affect you.
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cooper1203:
Hi all I have started a new job taking various things to collage’s and hospitals. I have been told that I don’t need an adr licence as the quantity’s of anything that might come under it are small. We are given a separate sheaf of papers with all the “adr bits” on it and their names and quantity’s. I have been told as long as the total is under 1000 units its ok. But is that 1000 total or 1000 of each item.
Hi cooper1203,
I’m not sure quite what you mean by units, so I’l try a guess…
I think you mean 1,000 (points/units) for a load in which the dangerous goods to be carried fall into more than one ADR Transport Category. If my guess is correct, the 1,000 relates to the whole load.
This system is only used when the dangerous goods are NOT packaged as Limited Quantities (LQs.)
More on LQs here:
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cooper1203:
Second question is can you mix loads with potentially dangerous consequences if one spilt onto another. or are these things so well sealed that even if there is a small spillage nothing will happen.
coop
The short answer is YES, you can have different UN Classes of dangerous goods on your vehicle at the same time.
ADR does have rules about ‘segregation,’ but your boss and the sender of the goods must deal with this issue.
If your oss hasn’t given you any specific instructions, then you’re good to go. 
grumpyken52:
You can download an app to a smart device that gives all the information on the UN numbers , what the stuff is , the hazard and how it can affect you.Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk
Not wanting to be too blunt but… Apps are fine as long as you understand their limitations and the limitations of those who use them in that they need more training than they got on an ADR course.
If those App thingys were any good, there probably wouldn’t need to be a legal requirement for consignors and carriers to have access to a properly qualified DGSA.
I’ve looked at a few of those Apps… I find it interesting that they all have the same disclaimer. 
For instance, I doubt that an App could answer the OP’s question.
dieseldave:
grumpyken52:
You can download an app to a smart device that gives all the information on the UN numbers , what the stuff is , the hazard and how it can affect you.Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk
Not wanting to be too blunt but… Apps are fine as long as you understand their limitations and the limitations of those who use them in that they need more training than they got on an ADR course.
If those App thingys were any good, there probably wouldn’t need to be a legal requirement for consignors and carriers to have access to a properly qualified DGSA.
For instance, I doubt that an App could answer the OP’s question.
I found them useful to fill in the blanks that many left off the paperwork, often it was UK companies that were guilty , EU companies very rarely did .
Always good for impressing the boys at Dartford crossing .
We often had some weird stuff that although was LQ and didn’t require plates it did necessitate informing crossing control and join the escorted vehicles. (F1 fuel samples, tested by a lab in the shadow of the bridge ).
As you have stated basic ADR training is a good thing for everyone dealing with anything of a hazardous nature .
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