ADR Movement Restrictions

Probably one for Diesel Dave :wink: but open to all, I am looking for specific information regarding any restrictions on moving ADR in Europe i.e. bans or speed restrictions for 3.5t van.

I have been told that I can’t move in France on a Sunday with ADR on board, but I have also been told that I can?

For example most of my ADR involves moving Motor Spirit UN1203 (Petrol) in 200 litre drums, normally Ramsgate — Ostend but never more than 6 x 200 as it is transported in a 3.5t Sprinter and we are reaching the payload limits with that quantity, there is no tacho required on this vehicle at the moment.

So any links to any relevant EU country data on this would be great, as I said above some people say I can some say I can’t so am trying to find the definitive info from any regulating body for the following countries as a minimum, ideally in English but will be happy with the relevant native language which hopefully can be translated.

UK

France

Benelux

Germany

Italy

Austria

Spain

Hungary

Switzerland

Thanks in advance

Iain

:slight_smile:

Some links for you Iain

bison-fute.equipement.gouv.f … ubrique=60

bison-fute.equipement.gouv.f … ubrique=38

transports.equipement.gouv.f … rique=2126

I am not going to even second guess Diesel Daves reply to the ADR as he has all the up to date books and most recent information.

But didnt White Van Man come under the ADR regs from January this year, or was it maybe even last year?

Im fairly certain that the French, Belgians and especially Luxembourg and Germany will be interested how these drums are secured in a Sprinter van.

I bet Brit Pete knows the answer to this one :wink:

Wheel Nut:
But didnt White Van Man come under the ADR regs from January this year, or was it maybe even last year?

Yes Wheel Nut white van man (and woman :wink: ) came into the ADR Regs as from 01/01/07.
The strange thing about that was that even before 01/01/07, all of the Regs applied as normal to the <3.5t vans EXCEPT the requirement to hold an ADR licence. :grimacing:
From 01/01/07, the ADR licence requirement became effective.

Wheel Nut:
Im fairly certain that the French, Belgians and especially Luxembourg and Germany will be interested how these drums are secured in a Sprinter van.

I reckon they will all be interested, because the requirements are the same in all countries.
Here’s what ADR has to say about securing dangerous goods:

7.5.7.1 Where appropriate the vehicle or container shall be fitted with devices to facilitate securing and handling of the dangerous goods. Packages containing dangerous substances …… shall be secured by suitable means capable of restraining the goods (such as fastening straps, sliding slatboards, adjustable brackets) in the vehicle or container in a manner that will prevent any movement during carriage which would change the orientation of the packages or cause them to be damaged. …… Movement of packages may also be prevented by filling any voids by the use of dunnage or by blocking and bracing. Where restraints such as banding or straps are used, these shall not be over-tightened to cause damage or deformation of the package.

Wheel Nut:
I bet Brit Pete knows the answer to this one :wink:

The type of info asked for by the OP isn’t in ADR, so I’d agree that brit pete might come up trumps with this. :grimacing:

Sprinter:
Probably one for Diesel Dave :wink: but open to all, I am looking for specific information regarding any restrictions on moving ADR in Europe i.e. bans or speed restrictions for 3.5t van.

Hi Sprinter, I’m afraid that type of info ISN’T contained in the ADR Regs. :frowning:

ADR very clearly leaves the subjects you asked for up to the individual governments concerned, due to the varying conditions in the individual countries.

I could answer most questions other that the ones you asked. :blush:

The only other way that I could address your question is to say that in the UK, there are no speed restrictions, other than the normal ones, and there are no particular days that you’re not allowed to drive whilst carrying dangerous goods.

Sorry I couldn’t have been of more help. :grimacing:

IMHO, because it’s 3.5tonner, usual weekend/night driving bans do not apply. And as these do not specify any exemptions or tie ups for ADR (apart from temperature sensitive stuff and petrol station supplies) you can drive anytime anywhere.
BUT, there are quite a few local restrictions (tunels, water reservoirs, mountain passes…); these are normally signposted only.

Wheel Nut:
I am not going to even second guess Diesel Daves reply to the ADR as he has all the up to date books and most recent information.

But didnt White Van Man come under the ADR regs from January this year, or was it maybe even last year?

Im fairly certain that the French, Belgians and especially Luxembourg and Germany will be interested how these drums are secured in a Sprinter van.

I bet Brit Pete knows the answer to this one :wink:

Hi Wheelnut their always interested in how us van drivers manage to operate ratchett straps, shoring bars and the like lol :wink:

And yes new regs came in at the start of 2007 regarding ADR vocational licences and training this cost me approx £400 for the course for packages and tanks, excluding Explosives and Radioactive. :open_mouth:

As you can see trying to pin down a definitive answer to this is quite difficult, and we know how much the Gendarmes, BAG and The Zoll etc like to fine you for whatever they think can con you out of. :angry:

Cheers

Iain

DAFMAD:
Some links for you Iain

bison-fute.equipement.gouv.f … ubrique=60

bison-fute.equipement.gouv.f … ubrique=38

transports.equipement.gouv.f … rique=2126

Cheers Steve will have a look and see what the online translator makes of it :smiley:

How you doing anyway?

Sprinter:
Cheers Steve will have a look and see what the online translator makes of it :smiley: ?

You’re welcome Iain

Sprinter:
How you doing anyway?

Could be a lot better :frowning:

what ever you will be carrying, must be
securely restrained and also you must have
a headboard in your van ,which seperates the
load area from the drivers area,I will have a look and see if i can find some better information sites and if
I so will post them here,

brit pete:
what ever you will be carrying, must be
securely restrained and also you must have
a headboard in your van ,which seperates the
load area from the drivers area,I will have a look and see if i can find some better information sites and if
I so will post them here,

Cheers Pete that would be helpful, as regarding the load security and equipment on my van it has been checked many times by the Germans, French, Italians and Austrians and passing all their checks without a problem.

It’s mainly the movement restrictions and speed limits especially in France 80 KMH i believe, but is that for all vehicles or only for over 7.5t :question: )

So any info on ADR and a 3.5t van is what i’m looking for, and any other info from other countries which restrict movements etc :smiley:

Cheers

Iain

when carrying ADR/HAZ it does not matter
weither it is a car, van or lorry all vehicles
that are loaded with such goods must complie
with the speed limit for that country, which
in the case of Germany,France, is 80kmh when
adr is on board; will post more info as and when i
can , hope the above is of help,

brit pete:
when carrying ADR/HAZ it does not matter
weither it is a car, van or lorry all vehicles
that are loaded with such goods must complie
with the speed limit for that country, which
in the case of Germany,France, is 80kmh when
adr is on board; will post more info as and when i
can , hope the above is of help,

Thanks Pete this is the sort of info that i’m looking for but i need to find a link to it on some official site to enable me to prove it either way, as i have been told by some it applies to all vehicles and by some only for those running 7.5t or above. :confused:

Cheers

Iain

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