first ive heard, you are shown a video where its recommended that you sit in a cafe…etc where you can see your vehicle. that was more about being aware of your load being hijacked by terrorists though. theres no law saying you have to stay with your vehicle under adr regs. otherwise would you have the driver sat on the bridge of a ferry watching his truck all night.
dieseldave:
What’s the issue with an unpaid break under ADR
Not knocking anybody or owt, just personal opinion I guess, company policy is company policy, take it or leave it. There’s no law for or against it. But if I were Johnny Tourist sat in a layby/parking area and some dodgy load started brewing up, it would be handy if the driver was around to tell me to eff-off sharpish and, as such, be paid for it.
Current firm pays for all breaks as their policy is vehicles are to be within sight at all times when out on the road. They don’t mind a quick ■■■■■-dash though, as it’s a sackable offence to water somebody’s garden without the use of a watering can.
nickb67:
dieseldave:
What’s the issue with an unpaid break under ADRNot knocking anybody or owt, just personal opinion I guess, company policy is company policy, take it or leave it.
Hi Nick,
That’s it mate, company policy!
The company can have a policy on whatever they like as long as it’s legal.
nickb67:
There’s no law for or against it.
Actually, ADR does have some things to say about supervision.
ADR’s supervision requirements apply on a substance by substance basis, so nobody can say that they have an inflexible blanket rule that applies all the time.
Depending on the substance carried, there are supervision requirements which are applicable depending on whether it’s in packages or a tanker and the amount on board the vehicle.
There are various amounts for packages, such as 0, 50kg, 100kg, 500kg, 1,000kg, 2,000kg 3,000kg 5,000kg and 10,000kg depending on the particular substance.
For tankers and bulk, the limit for supervision of some substances is 3,000 kg/litres.
The supervision limits are nothing to do with whether ADR applies to the job or not.
Supervision is generally taken to mean that the driver is on board the vehicle, or nearby.
This does not mean that the driver has to spend his rest period on guard with a rifle slung over his shoulder.
Now for the bit that most people seem to forget in the deluge of info given out on an ADR course…
If the supervision requirements apply, the vehicle shall be supervised or alternatively may be parked, unsupervised, in a secure depot or secure factory premises. If such facilities are not available, the vehicle, after having been properly secured, may be parked in an isolated position meeting the requirements of (a), (b) or (c) below:
(a) A vehicle park supervised by an attendant who has been notified of the nature of the load and the whereabouts of the driver;
(b) A public or private vehicle park where the vehicle is not likely to suffer damage from other vehicles; or
(c) A suitable open space separated from the public highway and from dwellings, where the public does not normally pass or assemble.
Just for rough guidance…
(a) means a secure lorry park
(b) means a motorway services
(c) means an isolated lay-by which is separated from the road, but not near houses.
If the supervision requirements apply, it is for the carrier (= vehicle owner) to inform the driver.
It is then up to the driver to supervise the vehicle, or leave it unsupervised in a secure depot or factory, or to comply by using (a), (b) or (c) in that descending order.
I’ll admit that the supervision rules are somewhat complex, so it’s understandable why so many compnies have a policy that says dangerous goods loads shall be supervised at all times. That way, the boss can’t get it wrong.
550 a week class 2 I’m guessing no nights out sounds pretty good.
Thanks Diesel Dave for the info!
I have conducted a few interviews and we may have a succesful candidate. I do not require anymore applications, thank you.
Kr79, yes not bad money at all