Quick question for all you ADR experts out there.
I am on a contract hauling tankers full of Leachate
(contaminated landfill rainwater) which is exceptionally
High in ammonia, in fact for every 30,000l of leachate
Scottish water need to add 90,000l of water before they can even
Add it into their treatment plant.
Although its classed as low hazard Should I be displaying a marine pollutant triangle
As it would kill off anything in any stream it entered
By accident.
sneakyscotsman:
Quick question for all you ADR experts out there.
I am on a contract hauling tankers full of Leachate
(contaminated landfill rainwater) which is exceptionally
High in ammonia, in fact for every 30,000l of leachate
Scottish water need to add 90,000l of water before they can even
Add it into their treatment plant.
Although its classed as low hazard Should I be displaying a marine pollutant triangle
As it would kill off anything in any stream it entered
By accident.
you answered your own question and being adr trained you should know anything with a risk to environment/marine then you need to be displaying marine pollutant placard I would suggest using tree with fish placard for environment imo am sure dieseldave will be along to correct me on that if i am wrong he is the go to guy for adr the man knows his stuff 
Yeah I kinda figured that would be the case
It’s just the usual , no other company uses them
They’ve never been needed before etc.
But hey it kills all the beasties in the river so
I recon It should be displayed too but couldn’t
Find any specifics and know Diesel Dave is the
Font of all knowledge with this stuff
I would imo use the environment placards just to be on safe side your doing nothing wrong by using it I believe and in the situation you described I genuinely believe you would be right in using it
JJ192:
sneakyscotsman:
Quick question for all you ADR experts out there.
I am on a contract hauling tankers full of Leachate
(contaminated landfill rainwater) which is exceptionally
High in ammonia, in fact for every 30,000l of leachate
Scottish water need to add 90,000l of water before they can even
Add it into their treatment plant.
Although its classed as low hazard Should I be displaying a marine pollutant triangle
As it would kill off anything in any stream it entered
By accident.you answered your own question and being adr trained you should know anything with a risk to environment/marine then you need to be displaying marine pollutant placard I would suggest using tree with fish placard for environment imo am sure dieseldave will be along to correct me on that if i am wrong he is the go to guy for adr the man knows his stuff
One thing he will know with his ADR training is that it is not his bag, and is not his decision to decide which placards or labels to show. There is a good reason for that, we are not chemists, we are not generally privy to the knowledge that the lab has of the samples.
Remember the idea of ADR and formerly Hazchem labelling is to identify the problem from a distance, possibly with binoculars. How does it look if a driver sticks some spare labels on the load and it turns out to contain something else like chlorine gas.
Ammonia, mixed with a drop of bleach 
Lovely
Wheel Nut:
One thing he will know with his ADR training is that it is not his bag, and is not his decision to decide which placards or labels to show. There is a good reason for that, we are not chemists, we are not generally privy to the knowledge that the lab has of the samples.
Spot-on Malc, I couldn’t have put it better myself.
ADR has a very exhaustive classification and test procedure for dangerous goods, so if it’s been decided that the stuff that SS is carrying is ‘low hazard,’ then that’s what it is.
A employed driver shouldn’t worry about this because it simply isn’t a driver’s responsibility, therefore an employed driver isn’t answerable for any shortcomings in identifying/classifying or deciding which placards/warning signs to be used for the stuff to be carried. This responsibility rests very firmly upon the consignor (sender.)
sneakyscotsman:
Although its classed as low hazard Should I be displaying a marine pollutant triangle …
Hi sneakyscotsman,
Alas, the Marine Pollutant triangle is no more.
It’s been replaced with the Fish and Tree sign, which means ‘pollutant to the aquatic environment.’
The Fish and Tree sign is now valid by both road and sea and looks like this:
ADR has a system for testing and classifying substances to see whether they count as ‘dangerous.’
Once a substance has been classified as dangerous, it will fit into one of the 9 UN danger classes on the basis of the test results. If the test results indicate that the substance meets the extra criteria necessary to be included as an aquatic pollutant, the Fish and Tree sign would then need to be used in addition to the class placard on tanker Hazard Warning Panels.
It seems that the leachate you’re carrying fell at the first hurdle and didn’t get classifed as a dangerous substance in the first place, so my guess is that’s why the aquatic pollutant sign isn’t needed.
I’d caution anybody who thinks that they’ll apply some signs that aren’t legally required…
It is a criminal offence to use/show placards that do not correctly relate to the dangerous goods being carried.
The responsibility for deciding which, if any, signage is to be used for any job rests very firmly upon the consignor, so as an employed driver, you’re completely in the clear even if the consignor has told a porky.
You can rest easy mate, cos it’s really not your problem. 
A full and excellent answer Dave
but no less than I would expect
Thanks for that puts my mind at rest