The Saudi’s have the right idea!!! 
I would have thought that a rear wheel drive was better in snow than any front wheel drive.
Mainly 'cos you can always throw a couple of bags of sand in the boot for ballast
Certainly, apart from my present 4x4, the best I ever had for snow was a rear engined rear drive Skoda.
I bet it liked to understeer!
Front engined RWD’s are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot in snow.
As for the people above sliding about the road in 4x4’s, there are many 4x4 owners who haven’t a clue how to engage permanent 4wd!
Driveroneuk:
Front engined RWD’s are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot in snow.
True enough, but they’re a whole lot of fun 
newmercman:
Driveroneuk:
Front engined RWD’s are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot in snow.True enough, but they’re a whole lot of fun
But at least you can steer the thing when it lets go unlike a mickey mouse front driver.Think mk 1 BDA ■■■■■■ rally car versus that front drive SAAB and try putting 400 lbs/ft of torque through the front wheels and see what happens even when it’s dry.Don’t see many front wheel drive cars winning NASCAR races.
Carryfast:
newmercman:
Driveroneuk:
Front engined RWD’s are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot in snow.True enough, but they’re a whole lot of fun
Dont see many NASCARS turning right. [Except for Watkins Glen and even thats gentle enough]
watched someone last week washing snow of there drive with a hose, wish i took a pic, seriously what do they expect
Carryfast a NASCAR fan, well who’d have guessed it 
Have to agree with our resident lunatic though, a MK1 RS1600 is a proper tool & one will be appearing in my garage soon, just got to win the lotto and I’m sorted 
pete904ni:
Carryfast:
newmercman:
Driveroneuk:
Front engined RWD’s are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot in snow.True enough, but they’re a whole lot of fun
Dont see many NASCARS turning right. [Except for Watkins Glen and even thats gentle enough]
OK AC Cobra versus Ferrari 250 GTO at Le Mans.(Or Goodwood Revival every year)
Carryfast:
OK AC Cobra versus Ferrari 250 GTO at Le Mans.(Or Goodwood Revival every year)
How in the name of all things holy does that video relate to FWD v RWD in snow? After reading the 6x4 v 6x2 thing with intrest I now think you just say the opposite for a reaction 
I have some friends who are BMW owners,(Some folk just got no taste!),but they ALL agree,they are ■■■■ in the snow!
del949:
I would have thought that a rear wheel drive was better in snow than any front wheel drive.
Mainly 'cos you can always throw a couple of bags of sand in the boot for ballast
Certainly, apart from my present 4x4, the best I ever had for snow was a rear engined rear drive Skoda.
bmws are useless in the snow, i was parked next to one of the managers at RM and his bmw was stuck and my Saab just drove straight out like there wasnt a problem…we did help get this manager out though then proceeded to take the urine out of his car the next day lol
pete904ni:
Carryfast:
OK AC Cobra versus Ferrari 250 GTO at Le Mans.(Or Goodwood Revival every year)How in the name of all things holy does that video relate to FWD v RWD in snow? After reading the 6x4 v 6x2 thing with intrest I now think you just say the opposite for a reaction
No it’s just that I sometimes can’t believe the inability of professional drivers to understand the basics of different designs and the reason.So put a Cobra engine,or my TWR V12 Jag motor 
,onto a front drive transmission instead of rear drive.Then try to drive it flat out on a dry race track.You’d then understand the description understeer and torque steer .Next try driving the thing at any speed on snow .You’d then understand why you should’nt try to use the front wheels to both steer and transmit a lot of power and torque with.Which is why that BDA MK1 ■■■■■■ rally car is better than a front drive SAAB and why if you’ve got a 4x4 car it’s far better,and safer,to have a large torque bias to the rear wheels especially on snow.
bestbooties:
I have some friends who are BMW owners,(Some folk just got no taste!),but they ALL agree,they are [zb] in the snow!
Until they trade it in for a mickey mouse front driver and suddenly find out what happens when they lose all steering ability when it loses traction and the thing understeers itself into a lampost or a ditch.
Carryfast:
pete904ni:
Carryfast:
OK AC Cobra versus Ferrari 250 GTO at Le Mans.(Or Goodwood Revival every year)How in the name of all things holy does that video relate to FWD v RWD in snow? After reading the 6x4 v 6x2 thing with intrest I now think you just say the opposite for a reaction
No it’s just that I sometimes can’t believe the inability of professional drivers to understand the basics of different designs and the reason.So put a Cobra engine,or my TWR V12 Jag motor
proper snow tyres curryfart thats why that mk1 did that, i will admit the mk1 and mk2 escorts are brilliant. but nowadays in a modern car fwd is better than rwd and 4x4 is better than both. but if you want tourqe steer then i think this video shows it
gogzy:
Carryfast:
pete904ni:
Carryfast:
OK AC Cobra versus Ferrari 250 GTO at Le Mans.(Or Goodwood Revival every year)How in the name of all things holy does that video relate to FWD v RWD in snow? After reading the 6x4 v 6x2 thing with intrest I now think you just say the opposite for a reaction
No it’s just that I sometimes can’t believe the inability of professional drivers to understand the basics of different designs and the reason.So put a Cobra engine,or my TWR V12 Jag motor
proper snow tyres curryfart thats why that mk1 did that, i will admit the mk1 and mk2 escorts are brilliant. but nowadays in a modern car fwd is better than rwd and 4x4 is better than both. but if you want tourqe steer then i think this video shows it
If a modern fwd car is better than rwd then I’d be able to buy a used Ferrari 550 for the price of a used Ford Mondeo because those Ferrari owners would all be rushing out to trade in their Ferraris for one of those so called ‘better’ front drive heaps.
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Thank [zb] for that
I did notice last week whilst out and about North of the border that a very high percentage of the abandoned cars littering the roads were top end Mercs and Beemers. Dunno if that speaks volumes about the cars or their drivers?
Mind you, having driven my mates heavily breathed on M5 in the snow I reckon you’d live longer if you walked into a Southall mosque waving around a bacon sarnie than try and drive one of them.
Last year when I was still on recovery work I had to recover a brand new (500 miles) Range Rover Sport from its final resting place in an oak tree after leaving a snow covered road. I asked the lady driver how fast she’d been travelling at the time. When she replied “60 or 70” I enquired if that was not a tad too fast given the conditions. Her reply was “well it’s got snow mode”. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Carryfast:
No it’s just that I sometimes can’t believe the inability of professional drivers to understand the basics of different designs and the reason.So put a Cobra engine,or my TWR V12 Jag motor
scottie0011:
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Thank [zb] for that
How do you do that? The man turns most threads into a shambles would be easier to ignore, and not to take the bait
Carryfast:
No it’s just that I sometimes can’t believe the inability of professional drivers to understand the basics of different designs and the reason.So put a Cobra engine,or my TWR V12 Jag motor
I have a vague recollection of reading somewhere that it’s SAAB who are pushing the boundaries of FWD & they’re the only manufacturer putting 350+hp thru the front wheels on production cars. The same article (IIRC) claimed there is a theoretical limit of around 400hp ?