Guys i work with an agency, and get regular work mon-thrus doing shunting work around companies others depos ( so i am working )
Fri-sat another agency can provide me with work and im literally a spare/standby waiting in the canteen on the very rare occasion i will have a job if im waiting for 3hour and get a job i will have to POA then start driving. Okay so if i go work fri-sat and im a spare and dont even have the chance to put my tacho in for POA can this be classied as break time meaning can i work 6/7 days? In the canteen im literally sleeping
Only thing is both company are big blue chip company and have green light on dvsa site but can i work 7days is the question.
No. As soon as you walk into said company and the desk bod says “head for the canteen nothing for you yet” you have started your shift. Any blue chip with a green light will be under FTA audits so your tacho has to match their booking on and off system when downloaded. They will have you on the system at say 07.00 start and if sent home at 11.00 as nothing to do they would expect cross hammers at the start and end recorded as a manual entry.
Fuzrat:
No. As soon as you walk into said company and the desk bod says “head for the canteen nothing for you yet” you have started your shift. Any blue chip with a green light will be under FTA audits so your tacho has to match their booking on and off system when downloaded. They will have you on the system at say 07.00 start and if sent home at 11.00 as nothing to do they would expect cross hammers at the start and end recorded as a manual entry.
thanks so in theory if both company were not FTA and same scenario then possibly i can
The time you’re paid is the time you’re working and I assume they are paying you for the time you are sitting round sleeping.
That can’t count as weekly rest and if anything serious happened, the police / DVSA could ask the agency for your employment records which will show you “at work” and you end up in a whole heap of trouble with DVSA or courts.
TruckDriverBen:
thanks so in theory if both company were not FTA and same scenario then possibly i can
Of course you bloody can’t, you’re at work, you’re at best on PoA which is not daily or weekly rest. What the hell makes you think you can, because there’s no record of it? Of course there’s a record of it, your time sheets for the agency. Mind you by the sounds of it you clearly don’t give a toss about running bent. Bell ends like you are the reason wages are crap.
Fuzrat:
No. As soon as you walk into said company and the desk bod says “head for the canteen nothing for you yet” you have started your shift. Any blue chip with a green light will be under FTA audits so your tacho has to match their booking on and off system when downloaded. They will have you on the system at say 07.00 start and if sent home at 11.00 as nothing to do they would expect cross hammers at the start and end recorded as a manual entry.
thanks so in theory if both company were not FTA and same scenario then possibly i can
So, your question isnt, "Can I work 7 days a week?", it isnt even “Can I legally work 7 days a week?”.
It is, “Can I get away with working 7 days a week?”.
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Yes (illegally). No. Maybe.
Assuming EU rules:
“Being on call during a weekly rest period
Drivers who are on call during any period of legally required rest must at all times be able to dispose of the rest time as they choose. This means that an employer cannot impose any limitations on drivers during such periods, for example requiring them to remain in or close to home or at another location. Drivers must be able to dispose of their free time as they choose (but this does not include undertaking any work where they are under the control of or are fulfilling an obligation to an employer). Being on call may only extend as far as a driver agreeing to answer a call during a rest period but only if the driver so chooses. On receiving a call to return to work drivers may only do so if they have completed the legally required amount of rest or if the work is deemed to be an emergency.” gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … vers-hours
If you were on call, but free to do as you like, where you like, maybe it would be OK.
If you are in a canteen at work, you are not in the case above.
Fuzrat:
No. As soon as you walk into said company and the desk bod says “head for the canteen nothing for you yet” you have started your shift. Any blue chip with a green light will be under FTA audits so your tacho has to match their booking on and off system when downloaded. They will have you on the system at say 07.00 start and if sent home at 11.00 as nothing to do they would expect cross hammers at the start and end recorded as a manual entry.
thanks so in theory if both company were not FTA and same scenario then possibly i can
Still no, you would be falsifying records. No reason why you couldn’t do mon to fri 1st week then mon to sat the next and repeat. that would give you a full weekly rest followed by a reduced followed by a full with compensation etc.
Correct me if wrong but I see you thinking, I can sit here for 3 hrs snoozing/kindle/movie, what I would do anyway at home Saturday morning. Get sent home as nothing to do, get paid a minimum of 8hrs for it and its cost me a trip to the firm and back on a Saturday morning and 4hrs of my morning with travel to be paid double bubble?
Same as the sad sacks that go in on a weekend to polish their trucks, I asked one of them if he had made a manual entry for his 5hr washing and polishing stint on a “rest” day and was laughed at. Sure DVSA would have loved to see him shining it up on his 24hrs off then heading down the road
I’m well past the stage of wanting to do 5 days never mind 7 , but if the op is a young lad , family etc , then credit to him wanting to work 7 days to put food on the table for the kids , not something you see very often in youngsters these days , wanting to work
If he’s old like me , bloody idiot
dozy:
I’m well past the stage of wanting to do 5 days never mind 7 , but if the op is a young lad , family etc , then credit to him wanting to work 7 days to put food on the table for the kids , not something you see very often in youngsters these days , wanting to work
If he’s old like me , bloody idiot
Think it through dozy, if what you tell us is right about how you personally approach the job, and the hours you do, plus running them ■■■■ ragged, you already do 7 days work, … . …but manage to fit it into 5.
Even I am pushing 50 hours most weeks in 4 days.
It’s the only job where an employee asks to do 50 hours, (me) not to increase their hours, but to bloody well cut them down.
Aka coming to my senses, and seeing the job for what it really is.
(It looks like I’m well on my way to ‘‘getting a life’’ as you advised me last time eh? …what about you?)
For your time
Thats if your into her
…what about you?)