A question!

Aside from the matters of permissions and insurance, is it legal for a five year-old child to ride in the passenger seat of an articulated tractor unit (or any lorry, for that matter) with or without a proper child safety seat - forward facing?

I think not, for a variety of reasons, but am I right?

Thanks

Steve

Ste46:
Aside from the matters of permissions and insurance, is it legal for a five year-old child to ride in the passenger seat of an articulated tractor unit (or any lorry, for that matter) with or without a proper child safety seat - forward facing?

I think not, for a variety of reasons, but am I right?

Thanks

Steve

I cant see why not see this

gov.uk/child-car-seats-the-rules

There is no mention of vehicles over a particular weight the distinction between bus and taxis are mentioned but nothing about HGV’s
Bearing in mind you could have a camper type vehicle which is based on the body of a truck so as long as the correct type of restraint is used it should be fine .

Ste46:
Aside from the matters of permissions and insurance, is it legal for a five year-old child to ride in the passenger seat of an articulated tractor unit (or any lorry, for that matter) with or without a proper child safety seat - forward facing?

I think not, for a variety of reasons, but am I right?

Thanks

Steve

Why not then :question:

As said no reason why not as long as you have the correct fitted seat

Why do you think that wouldn’t be the case?
As long as they are in the correct type of seat required for their age/size and are properly restrained you could carry a newborn baby if you wanted to.

m1cks:
Why do you think that wouldn’t be the case?
As long as they are in the correct type of seat required for their age/size and are properly restrained you could carry a newborn baby if you wanted to.

Seems straightforward enough to me as well.

Ste46:
Aside from the matters of permissions and insurance, is it legal for a five year-old child to ride in the passenger seat of an articulated tractor unit (or any lorry, for that matter) with or without a proper child safety seat - forward facing?

I think not, for a variety of reasons, but am I right?

Thanks

Steve

Yes it is legal with the proper child seat and no, you’re not right.

Might be worth checking with your employer first (unless you’re an OD etc).

There are i believe restrictions for children under a certain age ( i think 10/11 ) travelling in the front of cars ( apart from babies with a forward facing seat ) so i dont see why its any different to a truck, on the other hand, i do know that many RDC`s do not allow any children on site, regardless of how old they are, and would have to stay either at the gatehouse or outside the premises.

The only restriction to children travelling in vehicles is that they must be in a correct seat for their age/weight/height with a suitable restraint in place (seatbelt). Nothing to restrict which seat in the vehicle they can travel in (apart from drivers seat for obvious reasons)

The only time this is different is on a bus where you can have 3 children to a 2 person bench seat although my PCV was 15 years ago and this may have changed now.

Yes i just looked it up, there no restrictions, but only advice, some say only if you can turn off the airbag ( obviously for suffocation purposes ) others state that a booster seat should be fitted, others say a safety device should be able to fit the child, but my advice is NO children should be allowed in the front seat unless they are at least 12 yrs old, and therefore should be in the rear seats with seatbelts on at all times.

truckyboy:
There are i believe restrictions for children under a certain age ( i think 10/11 ) travelling in the front of cars ( apart from babies with a forward facing seat ) so i dont see why its any different to a truck, on the other hand, i do know that many RDC`s do not allow any children on site, regardless of how old they are, and would have to stay either at the gatehouse or outside the premises.

I took my mates son with me a few years ago ,he was about 8,he was not allowed on site at a rdc and the poor sod had to sit in a gatehouse for 4 hrs with 2 strangers ,not nice at all the him or me :blush: :blush: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Ste46:
Aside from the matters of permissions and insurance, is it legal for a five year-old child to ride in the passenger seat of an articulated tractor unit (or any lorry, for that matter) with or without a proper child safety seat - forward facing?

I think not, for a variety of reasons, but am I right?

Thanks

Steve

I regularly took my Son with me when he was small, so long as he was strapped in securely it was considered ok.

m1cks:
The only restriction to children travelling in vehicles is that they must be in a correct seat for their age/weight/height with a suitable restraint in place (seatbelt). Nothing to restrict which seat in the vehicle they can travel in (apart from drivers seat for obvious reasons)

The only time this is different is on a bus where you can have 3 children to a 2 person bench seat although my PCV was 15 years ago and this may have changed now.

The rules regarding transporting children are a farce. If they travel on a dedicated school bus, ie not available to the public then the vehicle requires seatbelts. If the service is advertised and the public can also travel on it then it does not need seat belts to be fitted.

Also, normal local bus services, operated by a bus as opposed to a coach do not require seatbelts.

Confused?

Thanks to all for the info. I probably did not make myself very clear, tho. My son-in-law sometimes takes my 4 year old grandson on local trips in his own lorry. He rides strapped into the passenger seat with the standard seatbelt.

I always understood (although this may be advice rather than law) that children under about ten cannot ride in the front seat of a car - except a baby in a rear-facing child carrier - so does this still apply if a standard child seat is used?

It all seems a very grey area!

Many thanks again

Steve

Ste46:
Thanks to all for the info. I probably did not make myself very clear, tho. My son-in-law sometimes takes my 4 year old grandson on local trips in his own lorry. He rides strapped into the passenger seat with the standard seatbelt.

I always understood (although this may be advice rather than law) that children under about ten cannot ride in the front seat of a car - except a baby in a rear-facing child carrier - so does this still apply if a standard child seat is used?

It all seems a very grey area!

Many thanks again

Steve

As long as he is in the correct car seat ( booster ) that is fitted correctly then it shouldnt be a prob

Ste46:
My son-in-law sometimes takes my 4 year old grandson on local trips in his own lorry. He rides strapped into the passenger seat with the standard seatbelt.

That is against the law

Ste46:
It all seems a very grey area!

No it’s not
gov.uk/child-car-seats-the- … oster-seat

truckyboy:
some say only if you can turn off the airbag ( obviously for suffocation purposes )

Nothing to do with suffocation - the concern is that in the event of the airbag triggering, the child in its rear-facing seat will be fired backwards into the head restraint.