scottishcruiser:
truckyboy:
Vosa had a barbeque going,.Vosa at the roadside with a BBQ going?? WTF?? Did they have a camp fire, guitars and singing KOOMBAYA MA LORD??
Not only that but they say that the uniform that those vosa girls have to wear has to be seen to be believed.Who needs Carlsberg when you’ve got vosa.
I think the best thing to do is just let them get on with it, i would,nt be keen about a dog getting in the cab though,i thought that was only trailers and the outside of the trucks they had a sniff about, and i have only seen the dogs when coming back into uk or going through a border, i only ever had a problem once with a commisioner just one of these guys that was on a power trip because he had a young woman trainee, but most of them been ok.
MARK
Wee Spaniels at both harbours here at Stranraer and Cairnryan…
Do they put them in the cab scottish cruiser, to have a wee sniff or do they do the outside of the truck with the dogs.
MARK
They dont really bother TBH, saw them a couple of times but usually back of trailer but they seem to target teh van boys a tad more with the dogs…
uniformed vosa girls.
Yeah anyone been to the VVC (Vosa Vice Club) at the bottom side of all major weighbridges?? I think when there busy taking there shoes off prior to valeting your interior, cooking you a slap up BBQ bun or 2 and making you a brew that you can quickly nip to the VVC for all your RELIEF needs… Bit of the same treatment you’d get if in Thailand etc… Infact im sure theyve set up a new website also, vosabrides.com
Why not talk to them and be polite, it comes down to Psychology. If you’re off with them and awkard they more likely to be awkard with you. I’ve always been polite with them and got a away with the odd minor infringment and been on my way again in reasonible time.
Getting pulled by VOSA is part of the job, like traffic jams, awkard security personal etc.
I think they may be entitled to check your Tachograph units dates, calibration etc, which means getting in the cab to do that.
att:
…If there are any reps of VOSA on here, some advice would be appreciated.
I am not looking to get into an argument, cause any trouble or even open a debate on here.
My take on State authority is that I will not cmmunicate with them in any way, no speech period. The Police usually get fed up with it and send you on your way. Now, my question is, when VOSA give me a pull and I adopt the same attitude, what are they going to do?
I really mean that I will not speak and will not let them have access to the inside of my truck.
Thats it really…
really? 
lad at our company refused to give them entry to his cab and refused to co-operate - Got a £200 quid FPN for obstructing the examiner and they where down the yard to check his records within the month.
the boss was so chuffed, the lad is now looking for another job.
do you know its now a fine-able offence not to co-operate with a vosa operative £200 according to the pamphlet they gave me
mezzzz1211:
do you know its now a fine-able offence not to co-operate with a vosa operative £200 according to the pamphlet they gave me
Yep - Failure to comply with a records inspection/obstructing an officer = £200.
Coffeeholic:
mezzzz1211:
do you know its now a fine-able offence not to co-operate with a vosa operative £200 according to the pamphlet they gave meYep - Failure to comply with a records inspection/obstructing an officer = £200.
Thanks guys, it took 24 hours, but we got there.
Thats all I wanted to know. 
So in reality we do not have the right to remain silent, we are forced into communicating with these officials and that means(in legal speak) that you are being forced into entering into a contract 
Bloody great here aint it.
And before anyone pipes up, no I do not run bent, nor do I have any serious infringements on my card, I always do the job to the book, or as much as I know of the book…I am not perfect.
So absolute power it is then and we all know what absolute power does
Can this country become any more worse than what it is right now?? JUst what rights do we have left I wonder…I am begining to think none, zero, nada, not a one… 
att:
Thanks guys, it took 24 hours, but we got there.
Thats all I wanted to know.So in reality we do not have the right to remain silent, we are forced into communicating with these officials and that means(in legal speak) that you are being forced into entering into a contract
And before anyone pipes up, no I do not run bent, nor do I have any serious infringements on my card, I always do the job to the book, or as much as I know of the book…I am not perfect.
So absolute power it is then and we all know what absolute power does
Can this country become any more worse than what it is right now?? JUst what rights do we have left I wonder…I am begining to think none, zero, nada, not a one…
It’s not much different to what we’ve always had because when a copper reads you the caution it’s always been a case of you have the right to remain silent but it could harm your defence if you do.But at least with the coppers you can choose to remain silent until a defence solicitor is present.But we’ve never had the fifth amendment here like the yanks have.
there is a way round all this.
they should read you your rights. and this includes free legal representation.
just say that you would like to take them up on the legal representation before going any further.
if this is denied, then that is fine too. the reason for this is because any evidence they gather will be none admisable in court.
however, i am always polite with them. and most importantly. ACT STUPID THINK FAST. they like to think they are of superior intellect. this is not the case.
att:
So in reality we do not have the right to remain silent,
Well as long as you don’t obstruct him in his inspection of your records or vehicle you don’t actually have to open your mouth.
“You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”
If you are cautioned and you choose to remain silent and it goes to court, the court is allowed to draw a conclusion of a lack of innocence from your refusal to speak.
limeyphil:
there is a way round all this.
they should read you your rights. and this includes free legal representation.
just say that you would like to take them up on the legal representation before going any further.
if this is denied, then that is fine too. the reason for this is because any evidence they gather will be none admisable in court.
Thats easy to get around, certainly sir you can have your solicitor, oh by the way your now coming with me cause your under arrest. 2 hours later you might see your solicitor…
vosa don’t have the power of arrest.
Coffeeholic:
att:
So in reality we do not have the right to remain silent,Well as long as you don’t obstruct him in his inspection of your records or vehicle you don’t actually have to open your mouth.
“You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”
If you do remain silent though, and it goes to court, the court is allowed to draw a conclusion of a lack of innocence from your refusal to speak.
But those yanks have the fifth amendment and log books and no limiters so it all comes down to wether the driver incriminates himself or not for them but it’s very different in the commie republic of euro england?.