mrginge:
I don’t understand tbh why you didn’t just move considering you had only put it on break 5mins before, would it have been that much hassle to move instead of trying to have a discussion with someone who swears every other word and im assuming raising their voice each sentence.
Why ruin his break for someone who’s a bell end?
Politeness may have helped the situation but… 
tango boy:
mrginge:
I don’t understand tbh why you didn’t just move considering you had only put it on break 5mins before, would it have been that much hassle to move instead of trying to have a discussion with someone who swears every other word and im assuming raising their voice each sentence.Why ruin his break for someone who’s a bell end?
Politeness may have helped the situation but…
Yeah but i think you can figure quite quickly if a person is worth attempting to reason with.
I’ve gone to quite a few places over the years where a rigid driver has “taken a break off the bay in a position they think isn’t blocking anything” which it isn’t if you drive a rigid but is if you were in a an artic.
Just because there’s 3 bays doesn’t mean there’s 3 bays you can get unloaded on. I’ve been to places where there’ll be several bays but a wall between some of them to split the chill and frozen, others where there’s loads of bays but only one without any stock on the warehouse side blocking it off. Just because there’s a few empty bays available doesn’t mean he can use them all, chances are he’s been told which one to use.
You’d only been on break 5 minutes which is a whole different story than 40 minutes. Would it have been the end of the world to move and restart your break? There were two bell ends driving wagons that day it would appear.
mrginge:
tango boy:
mrginge:
I don’t understand tbh why you didn’t just move considering you had only put it on break 5mins before, would it have been that much hassle to move instead of trying to have a discussion with someone who swears every other word and im assuming raising their voice each sentence.Why ruin his break for someone who’s a bell end?
Politeness may have helped the situation but…Yeah but i think you can figure quite quickly if a person is worth attempting to reason with.
Sure can mate, i bet the chap doesn’t even realise he did anything wrong. The op did right standing his ground!
I don’t know about others, but I like to enjoy my breaks - I’ll happily go a couple of miles out of my way to ensure a bit of relaxation. It’s not going to be much of a “break” if I’ve got some neanderthal glowering at me for the entire 15/30/45 minutes, waiting for me to move.
To start with, I might have asked if he’d had a crappy day, slow down and explain why he thought I was blocking any bays etc. Some people are thoughtless enough to take their bad mood out on the nearest choice, sometimes they calm right down if you ask what’s up. If he’d carried on being a c***shovel I’d have just refused to discuss anything with somebody who can’t be civil. If he phoned my boss I’d have probably laughed quite a lot.
Suedehead:
the maoster:
I find that “would you like me to back it on for you sonny?” Usually does the trick.He couldnt though . . he was on break.
Good point. After all you never know when a DVSA official may be peering through the fence watching the op drive the other guys truck with the other guys card in!
the maoster:
Suedehead:
the maoster:
I find that “would you like me to back it on for you sonny?” Usually does the trick.He couldnt though . . he was on break.
Good point. After all you never know when a DVSA official may be peering through the fence watching the op drive the other guys truck with the other guys card in!
Especial when you reverse so quick stamp on the brakes hard and turn the pallets on their side , or smash the trailer into the loading dock !
Stick a matchstick in one of his tyre valves… 
Dipper_Dave:
I would have moved and restarted my break. Nothing winds me up more than a fellow driver taking a break in everyones way then playing the old… I cant move due to break BS.
I would also move and re start but from what I read it seems the other driver had a real attitude problem,that to me is like a red rag to a bull and he would have been politely told to go forth and multiply
Dipper_Dave:
I would have moved and restarted my break. Nothing winds me up more than a fellow driver taking a break in everyones way then playing the old… I cant move due to break BS.
+1
If you’ve only been on for 5 mins I don’t see the point in argueing. I’d of moved and enjoyed my break.
Pimpdaddy:
Dipper_Dave:
I would have moved and restarted my break. Nothing winds me up more than a fellow driver taking a break in everyones way then playing the old… I cant move due to break BS.+1
He said he wasn’t in the way, i believe him!
Read it again, it sounds like angry man had a real problem with the Company maybe, i don’t know
tango boy:
He said he wasn’t in the way, i believe him!
Read it again, it sounds like angry man had a real problem with the Company maybe, i don’t know
nurburg340:
If you’ve only been on for 5 mins I don’t see the point in argueing. I’d of moved and enjoyed my break.
What he said^^^…
the maoster:
Suedehead:
the maoster:
I find that “would you like me to back it on for you sonny?” Usually does the trick.He couldnt though . . he was on break.
Good point. After all you never know when a DVSA official may be peering through the fence watching the op drive the other guys truck with the other guys card in!
Problem being that, having already played the Jobsworth card (“I can’t move it because I’m on a break”), if you then offer to move his vehicle instead it makes you look even more of a Jobsworth than you did before…
Win-Stone:
I had always believed that there was a ‘loose camaraderie’ between drivers. I wonder if I was imagining it… or is this really a new low?Twice a week — for longer than I care to remember — I have done a drop at this location.
Twice a week — for longer than I care to remember — I have finished my drop then put myself on break.
On Monday things hit a new low…
About 5 minutes after I’d put the wagon on break another lorry pulled in. The driver looked at where I was parked and asked that I move the lorry because I was ‘blocking access to the loading bay’.
I pointed out that I couldn’t because a) I was on break and, therefore, couldn’t move it and, b) I certainly wasn’t blocking the loading bay… and, anyway, he had three to choose from — all of which were empty.
He then demanded that I move the lorry. I repeated about being on break and than wondered, out loud, why he appeared so desperate to get the lorry moved when he appeared to be spoilt for choice. He stated it was because so he was ‘on a schedule’ (aren’t we all?) and so that he could ‘get onto the loading bay’.
I pointed out that there were three loading bays and that I wasn’t blocking any of them.
He insisted that I was blocking the loading bay and that I ‘move the [zb] lorry’.
I, yet again, pointed out that there were three loading bays to choose from and asked what his problem was — he did, after all, seem to want an argument and appeared to almost be picking a fight.
All he could say was that I was ‘blocking the loading bay’ and I should “shift the [zb] lorry, you [zb].”
At this point I realised that it would be far too easy to drag the twerp out that cab and ‘have serious words’ so, with a shake of the head (and a serious bite of the tongue), I wandered off in the direction of the cafe for my usual coffee, soup and a bun.
Something happened then which I still struggle to comprehend: five minutes later my 'phone went. The driver had been on the 'phone to the depot and given MY boss a load of verbal abuse because, and I quote, “Your [zb], [zb], [zb] of a driver won’t shift his piece of [zb] lorry off the [zb] loading bay — and are all your [zb], [zb] drivers the same?”
I will leave what my boss said to him in reply to your imaginations.
I will also leave what I subsequently said to him to your imaginations.
What would YOU have done??
Firstly I wouldn’t have taken a break in a yard I’d finished tipping at unless I’d got the okay off th site owners/manager.
If I’d only been on break 5 minutes, for the sake of arguing I’d have moved (if I legally could) I then would have recorded the idiot taking 10 shunts for YouTube.
Op, we need photos, drawings, video evidence, angles, chalk markings! Anything #TNCSI are not happy with this one
Regardless of who was right or wrong (although Conor appears to know exactly what went on despite not being there), Mr Angry will sooner or later try his act with one of the industry’s loose cannons and end up working out why only a fool goes and gives it the big one to someone he knows nothing about. Just another big, angry trucker. However if I had been in the OP’s shoes he would have been waiting longer than 45 minutes, that’s for sure
NewLad I would hazard since the OP has been doing this practice twice a week for as long as he cared to remember, that the yard managers permission is a given 
I do love people that get wound up on this job though. I appreciate that everyone has problems but to let it spill into your work life/ just being generally angry is ridiculous really.
Maoster has right response so far, but that line future should be delivered followed by the blowing of a kiss for extra patronising!
Win-Stone:
I had always believed that there was a ‘loose camaraderie’ between drivers. I wonder if I was imagining it… or is this really a new low?Twice a week — for longer than I care to remember — I have done a drop at this location.
Twice a week — for longer than I care to remember — I have finished my drop then put myself on break.
On Monday things hit a new low…
About 5 minutes after I’d put the wagon on break another lorry pulled in. The driver looked at where I was parked and asked that I move the lorry because I was ‘blocking access to the loading bay’.
I pointed out that I couldn’t because a) I was on break and, therefore, couldn’t move it and, b) I certainly wasn’t blocking the loading bay… and, anyway, he had three to choose from — all of which were empty.
He then demanded that I move the lorry. I repeated about being on break and than wondered, out loud, why he appeared so desperate to get the lorry moved when he appeared to be spoilt for choice. He stated it was because so he was ‘on a schedule’ (aren’t we all?) and so that he could ‘get onto the loading bay’.
I pointed out that there were three loading bays and that I wasn’t blocking any of them.
He insisted that I was blocking the loading bay and that I ‘move the [zb] lorry’.
I, yet again, pointed out that there were three loading bays to choose from and asked what his problem was — he did, after all, seem to want an argument and appeared to almost be picking a fight.
All he could say was that I was ‘blocking the loading bay’ and I should “shift the [zb] lorry, you [zb].”
At this point I realised that it would be far too easy to drag the twerp out that cab and ‘have serious words’ so, with a shake of the head (and a serious bite of the tongue), I wandered off in the direction of the cafe for my usual coffee, soup and a bun.
Something happened then which I still struggle to comprehend: five minutes later my 'phone went. The driver had been on the 'phone to the depot and given MY boss a load of verbal abuse because, and I quote, “Your [zb], [zb], [zb] of a driver won’t shift his piece of [zb] lorry off the [zb] loading bay — and are all your [zb], [zb] drivers the same?”
I will leave what my boss said to him in reply to your imaginations.
I will also leave what I subsequently said to him to your imaginations.
What would YOU have done??
Are you SURE you were not blocking his path? How do you know what bay he can/was told to use? He seems to have gone completely off the reservation for something that was a non-event(apparently). He has to unload there,you dont have to take your break there. Lots of drivers seem to think that “im on break” means they can sit anywhere they want and everyone else has to work around them.
And even if you were only blocking the path if someone happened to be crap at reversing(as I think you mentioned in another post),that means you were blocking his path if he is crap at reversing. Meaning he has a point. And even if he is rubbish at reversing,it does not mean your fine to sit there just because it would be ok otherwise. The fact he phoned your boss says to me that he maybe had a point regarding where you were sitting.
Lot’s of opinions about what what others would do but it’s worth remembering that NONE of us were there. We only have one side of the story. And there are three sides to every story.
There’s one persons version of events,there’s the other persons version of events and then there’s what actually happened!
