A little over hours

Not much over 10 hours but serious outcome. Dunno if the closure of the firm is connected or not.

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I would push on for Taunton Deane myself s/b as I would much prefer McD over a Burger King, but not enough to pop my card out.

You would like to think that incidents like this would act as a warning to all those drivers out there who constantly chase more hours, but it probably won’t.
It should also serve as a warning to the Government about the hours we work, as only a few months earlier her shift would have been legal due to drivers hours extensions. (Ok, her rest period was 7 minutes short but that’s hardly going to make a massive difference when you’re working that much is it?)

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Terry Cooksey:
Only a few months earlier her shift would have been legal due to drivers hours :confused:

THE main reason of many that I always refuse to play when they bring out these ''easings of regulations ‘’ b/'s .

It’s fine when it suits THEM,.but they come down on you like a ■■■■ storm as soon as things go back to normal.
It just makes a mockery of drivers hours regs and H&S.
Anybody who does it who ain’t an owner driver is a gullible idiot…end of.

Not excusing her she deserves all she gets and is very lucky to be not shipped home in a box.

Don’t blame her , 1 shower at Bridgwater services was enough for me

I picked up an infringement recently for going over my 15 hours. I was stuck in a road traffic accident tailback and it was an hour before I could finally reach a layby to park up. Only 10 minutes of driving when it cleared it though but I had already gone over.

If I had taken my card out to prevent getting an infringement, then I would be guilty for planning the fraud as well. And I know this company also tracks lost mileage through the tacho heads as well

It is easier to make mistakes when you’re being pushed to the limit. And I can understand that many drivers just want to do the best they can. I do too.

Unfortunately, sometimes they end up on the wrong side of the law as a result.

The driver may not of even realised that the company would also download the tachograph itself, and should technically have raised the issue about “lost mileage” when she was in charge of the vehicle.

When I was tramping, I was told I should never take the card out during the week and just leave it in. Most of the time that worked out okay for me

When the…

Old Bill turned up they asked her ‘what happened?’

‘Dunno’ she said ‘I was asleep at the time’.

Falsified hours, card deliberately removed, insufficient rest, could easily have killed a number of people.

But it’s a pregnant young female with a job so the judge let’s her off…

I wonder if it was a bloke what would have happened?

Saratoga:
I picked up an infringement recently for going over my 15 hours. I was stuck in a road traffic accident tailback and it was an hour before I could finally reach a layby to park up. Only 10 minutes of driving when it cleared it though but I had already gone over.

If I had taken my card out to prevent getting an infringement, then I would be guilty for planning the fraud as well. And I know this company also tracks lost mileage through the tacho heads as well

That’s the difference which makes the offence more serious. You didn’t take your card out, she did because she knew what she did was wrong and tried to hide it because she wasn’t clever enough to realise the tacho continued to record. It also indicates that when she did she was stopped, most likely in a motorway services where she could have taken her daily rest.

Good god, it doesn’t get much more disastrous than doing that without a card in :smiley:

Conor:

Saratoga:
I picked up an infringement recently for going over my 15 hours. I was stuck in a road traffic accident tailback and it was an hour before I could finally reach a layby to park up. Only 10 minutes of driving when it cleared it though but I had already gone over.

If I had taken my card out to prevent getting an infringement, then I would be guilty for planning the fraud as well. And I know this company also tracks lost mileage through the tacho heads as well

That’s the difference which makes the offence more serious. You didn’t take your card out, she did because she knew what she did was wrong and tried to hide it because she wasn’t clever enough to realise the tacho continued to record. It also indicates that when she did she was stopped, most likely in a motorway services where she could have taken her daily rest.

Also the key giveaway is where Ireland
A driver where I used to work got caught out running with no card in, he would go home at 5/6 pm then sneak back at 10pm and drive to his first drop with no card in :open_mouth:
Not a cleaver thing to do when the truck is on tracker as well , and the best bit was he’d broke the front idiot mirror on the truck and was told not to leave the yard next day till it was replaced , He just went any way but it was to London :wink: :unamused: and an off duty copper spotted it and called his mates and DVSA , so GV9 and a tacho download followed and also a P45

eagerbeaver:
But it’s a pregnant young female with a job so the judge let’s her off…

Wouldn’t be surprised if that was part of a plan to ensure she didn’t get sent down. This happens in March, heavily pregnant by November. Hmm. We don’t get this get out clause.

Seriously…7 minutes lack of [legal] rest time, and 36 minutes over driving time = crash vs. no crash?

I can see why people think laws are stupid when they are just arbitrary. You don’t magically fall asleep 1 minute over the legal time.

It says the company went bust, but what would have happened if they hadn’t? It seems companies don’t get nailed for things like this?