http://www.dongfengtrucks-export.com/products/#producttabs|2
Can’t decide if its like the Foden Alpha or the Seddon Atkison .Middle 2 tabs - the KL and the KC
There is a Chinese proverb that reads when translated,
“When fleet manager driving your luxury car,
His drivers are driving our trucks”
muckles:
nick2008:
Olog Hai:
muckles:
Scoff at your peril, things like this could come here…Things like this will come here. To a large PLC which runs a massive fleet of trucks for a few years and then replaces them there will be a huge saving to be had. One of the Chinese coach manufacturers appears to have gotten over the build quality issue, so it takes little imagination to see that the same will happen with trucks.
There will still be some who claim that they’ll refuse to drive them, however.
As said though it depends on dealership back up …
And price on disposal, although most large companies lease or contract hire, part of that calculation is the residual value. But I’m sure we’ll see something over here sooner rather than later.
Surprised we haven’t seen things like this on our roads yet either,
I actually rather like that Cargo. I’d love a go in one.
NOVE:
muckles:
Surprised we haven’t seen things like this on our roads yet either,I actually rather like that Cargo. I’d love a go in one.
Yours for €74,300 
Is it just me or does that Turksh Ford resemble a Transcontinental?
that’s definitely an unrealistic price in the european union, when you can get a similar stralis for €10 grand less. ukraine has high import taxes, that’s why it’s so expensive. there’s at least one in Estonia, a car carrier for the dealership, probably the only one
milodon:
that’s definitely an unrealistic price in the european union, when you can get a similar stralis for €10 grand less. ukraine has high import taxes, that’s why it’s so expensive. there’s at least one in Estonia, a car carrier for the dealership, probably the only one
Probably be a similar price in the EU as it to has import duties, also it seems that they are looking at emerging market which are expanding rather than a static European market where all they can do it try and muscle in on another manufactures market share. I assume the Asian companies are looking at the same thing.
NewLad:
Seeing as it only meets Euro III spec and it says Volvo could supply running gear for it, I’d happily have one with 500 bhp and ishift.
If they want to sell here then their vehicles will have to meet Euro 6. Legislation will prevent them from registering vehicles which are anything ‘less’. There is one very significant bus, coach and truck manufacturer that begins with a V which is doing some very good deals on its built for stock Euro 5 buses at the moment, because if it doesn’t shift them by the time Euro 6 becomes mandatory it will be in a very awkward position.
Riverstick:
I have had good experiences both working on and driving King Long coaches. Whilst earlier examples had minor build quality issues, later ones seem much improved. I know a few local companies who bought them for both local & regional contracts and found them very satisfactory and trouble free in operation. Very cheap to buy, surprisingly satisfactory to operate and not too bad to drive with the ■■■■■■■ power plant either.
Quite, and the Yutong coaches which have recently started to enter service are supposed to be better than the King Longs.
Regarding the dealer matter, Yutong coaches are imported by Pelican Engineering on Wakefield Europort, which is a very long-established truck dealership for the likes of DAF, and not run by a bunch of stupid people by any means. They obviously see something there which will make them money, so it’s quite feasible that other existing truck dealers will simply add the Chinese marques to their portfolio and they’ll be backed up that way.
The Chinese manufacturer have the money to mount a sustained attack on the European market if they wish. It’s come to the coach sector and will come to trucks, too.
When I was a kid Made in China or Japan was a by-word for junk.If you got a toy car at Christmas the wheels would fall off within an hour.They now have their manufacturing down to a tee.They have such a huge market for their stuff that economies of scale kick in earlier than they did when we had factories and foundries etc.Chinese motor cycles are gaining in popularity and are about three quarters of the price of a comparable Honda.Their cars will most likely have engines built under licence from Mercedes or another trusted manufacturer.
What a comercial for a truck eh?
hedg70:
What a comercial for a truck eh?
hedg70:
What a comercial for a truck eh?
Good that I’m assuming the Freddie Mercury Mustache is compulsory.
Anyone who dismisses Chinese build quality as ■■■■■ has to remember that quality control is ‘controlled’ by the customer who places the order with the factory. They are more than capable of very high quality control and therefore bringing a very good quality products to the customer.
What is concerning for the Chinese is the cost of labour is increasing at an alarming rate. A few companies are already transferring manufacturing to other developing countries or even back to the uk, because the substantial saving on manufacturing is no longer so substantial.
jobseeker:
Anyone who dismisses Chinese build quality as [zb] has to remember that quality control is ‘controlled’ by the customer who places the order with the factory.
Exactly. If you want a crappy budget product, they’ll knock it out. Also if you want a quality premium product, they’ll make it too. It’s 2014, not 1974.
I don’t know how much longer China is going to be cheaper.
Wages are rising fast in China…and consumer demand within China is increasing to match. With more demand for their own products in their home market they are less likely to be fixated on exports.
Coaches are a bit different to trucks…they have a high labour content, and getting robots to do tasks like installing 53 seats in a coach is quite a challenge.
Tractor units are easily built by comparison…and there’s a world price for robots to build them and a world price for steel to build them from.
Other costs in China will be lower than those in the west, but then you’ve got to ship the finished product half-way around the world to Europe
Cotswoldcrunch:
Have Ford been forgiven for the Cargo yet? Not a bad 7.5tonner and a few are still about as donkey boxes but their 6wheeled tippers and mixers were (being polite) “a bit asthmatic”.
20 years ago the Cargo six-wheeler had the best payload bar none!! It probably still does and the likes of Roger Hastings are testament to that today! I recall some of the owner drivers running out of Bullimore’s quarry at Collyweston 20 years ago who swore by them - one of which had a 2428 Cargo with the LTA10 290 ■■■■■■■ in it. That would easily (as the 2424’s would) ■■■■ all over anything else quite easily. Nothing ‘asthmatic’ about a Cargo six-wheeler with the correct engine layout, which most had.