A Basic Truck

Is there a “basic” truck on the market? I know of the Axor but why don’t manufacturers build lightweight basic models anymore? Everytime we get a new wagon, it’s heavier than the one it’s replacing and comes with more and more ott electrics to play up in wet dirty conditions. Our 8w have gone from 20tonners to 18.5tonners in the 11 years I’ve been driving.

Hino…

DAF LF

Unless you need a sleeper, which most 8 wheelers aren’t.

There are light units, but the amount required for H+S and regs increases weight, ABS, Airbags, pre-tensioners, crumple zones etc.

Electric windows don’t weigh anything, but I know what you mean about them going dodgy when wet.

A low roof day cab LF or CF or something should be about the same weight as years ago.

As above, i reckon MB has got it sewn up with the Axor and a good underrated motor it is too…so long as satans gearbox isn’t fitted, a proper drivers truck too, will lug right down to 800 rpm without the slightest fuss.

This was DAF’s safe ground but electrics seem to be the weak point now, again a good standard truck in manual form.

Hino worth a look if you have someone nearby can look after it.

‘‘if it aint broke don’t fix it’’

I drive a 61 plate fm 8 wheel tipper with a steel body it tares at 13160.
Ironic to think a scammell routeman could legally carry 20 ton at the old 30 ton limit. Mind you I don’t think I’d want to drive one every day.

ERF or something french.

DENNIS and it’s BRITISH,good enough as fire engines good enough for anything else

Just out of intrest whats the best 8wheeler tipper lorry payload out there now?

Atkinson Borderer

Mullens:
Just out of intrest whats the best 8wheeler tipper lorry payload out there now?

Anything above 20 is good.

DAF CF with the 16 speed manual, spot on, or the Axor with the 8/16 slapover, under rated truck.

That explains round my way hino are taking over in tipper work because they have the best payload.

Mullens:
That explains round my way hino are taking over in tipper work because they have the best payload.

There seem to be more Hinos around here with steel muck bodies which carry about 19.
Our lot aren’t bothered the MANs are heavy; They’d rather have an 18.5tonner that can do any work and needs no maintenance than a 20t alloy that gets bashed. We have a 56plate Alpha with alloy body and a Quiksilver liner that carries 20.5 but has had to have repairs done over the years. They bought another Alpha at the same time but has a Charlton Superlite steel body; Carries 19.7 and has had no repairs whatsoever.

kr79:
I drive a 61 plate fm 8 wheel tipper with a steel body it tares at 13160.
Ironic to think a scammell routeman could legally carry 20 ton at the old 30 ton limit. Mind you I don’t think I’d want to drive one every day.

You still wet behind the ears boy?

I’m far to lazy now I had to drive a 52 plate fm with a manual gearbox the other day that was a chore lol.

Ford Cargo

I think the newest most basic truck I have driven in recent times was a DAF CF 18t with long body on it. Electric windows, central locking, air seat, air suspension, CD player in the truck, 4 over 4 manual box, two seater model day cab. Curtainsider with a tail lift. I think it had a sun roof too but it also had that red light for night time driving in it, but it drove well enough. The cruise control worked too, which was handy on the Manchester Airport trunk run I did often with it.

My dads 1986 C-plate F7 tared at 9800kg, and that was an 8x4 with about a 7ft high body. Probably struggle to get a 6x4 down to that weight nowadays! :wink:
Some manufacturers make lightweight tractors, with the shopping trolley midlifts etc, but I guess there’s not much you can do to an eight-wheeler. Stripping in-cab goodies doesn’t tend to strip [zb] all weight off anyway in the grand scheme of things, probably best to get you on a rabbit food diet and make sure you take a crap before you start your shift :wink: :wink:

Talk of Atki Borderer’s, F7’s and Ford Cargo’s et al (even the latter has not been properly manufactured in the UK since late-1992 - Iveco’s involvement doesn’t count!!) says a lot really!! I just love driving de-skilled Euro-boxes these days… :cry:

With respect of course :slight_smile:

I used to drive a P reg 7.5t truck. It was an Iveco, had manual windows, no radio, no central locking, 5sp gearbox, a 3 seater day cab and by comparison was a little bit more comfortable than other day cabs I have driven but I prefer the modern ones as they can be locked and secured.