£50 notes .....

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

Whilst the shopkeeper may or may not refuse to sell you the product, there aint a whole lot they could do about it once it’s in your fuel tank!

the maoster:

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

Whilst the shopkeeper may or may not refuse to sell you the product, there aint a whole lot they could do about it once it’s in your fuel tank!

They can issue with a notice to pay. Had it before when my fuel card had expired and i never had the new one.

Contraflow:
Had the same thing in Burger King. The manager said he could give me the food for free but he couldn’t accept my £50 note.

Sort of makes sense. They can give you a burger for free that probably cost them 50p to avoid a scene and possible bad publicity, or risk giving you £47 odd change for a possible forged note.

Must try that next time I fancy some junk

I’d sooner put fifty quid down the toilet than eat anything from Burger King.

the maoster:

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

Whilst the shopkeeper may or may not refuse to sell you the product, there aint a whole lot they could do about it once it’s in your fuel tank!

Had a similar thing happen after returning from a trip overseas, pulled into a garage and stuck 51 quid’s worth of diesel in and went to pay with a Switch card, they wouldn’t accept that as payment as it was over the 50 pound limit, so offered a Eurocheque, which they also refused.

I said they could have their diesel back as long as they could get their white out of my red :laughing:

They took a company cheque in the end :unamused:

On the subject of fifties, only ever had one refused once, at J13 M1, again after returning from overseas, really fancied a decent fry up, so ordered a double everything breakfast, went to pay and they wouldn’t take a fifty, had no other English money, so after a bit of a row I left hungry, never been back to the place since.

Sidevalve:

kemaro:

merc0447:
Ive only had a 50pound note twice in my life got them both times when i stung the bookies for big sums. Where did you get 3 from?

I think its a pretty useless denomination.

Got married two weeks ago & some of the cards we had people had put a 50 in them , got more than 3 but that’s the first time I tried to spend them … I’ve used 50s before but this is the first issue I’ve had with them …

Firstly congrats on the wedding. Mate of mine in London, notoriously careful with money, is a painter and decorator and tends to get paid in £50 notes. We reckon he keeps them on him so that when he goes to the bar to buy a round he banks on the barman coming out with the “we don’t take £50 notes” routine then somebody else has to pay!

my mate tried that tactic so I just said "no problem mate I can change that " lol

bazza123:
I don’t know why, it’s my money, I’ll have it in whatever denomination I want surely? I’m not sure on the Scottish notes, are they legal tender?

Don’t Scotland still have £1 notes in some places, and £100?

alamcculloch:
Bank of Ulster currency

Er, there are four issuers in NI.

Ulster Bank (part of RBS),
Danske Bank (was Northern Bank),
First Trust Bank (Allied Irish Bank subsidiary)
Bank of Ireland

I think it is Danske Bank that does the polymer notes.

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

I wonder if there’s an element of truth to this you know. You have shown that you wanted to purchase something, have offered a. £50 note, perfectly legally, which the shopkeeper has declined to accept. Surely on that basis you are free to leave the shop with your goods FOC?

dew:

bazza123:
I don’t know why, it’s my money, I’ll have it in whatever denomination I want surely? I’m not sure on the Scottish notes, are they legal tender?

Don’t Scotland still have £1 notes in some places, and £100?

Yup, got 3 at home. No one will take them. I paid with a Scottish note in sainsbury’s once, the girl was holding it up to the light uming and ahing. I said ‘Do you even know what your looking for?’ and she shrugged and put it in the till :laughing:

bazza123:

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

I wonder if there’s an element of truth to this you know. You have shown that you wanted to purchase something, have offered a. £50 note, perfectly legally, which the shopkeeper has declined to accept. Surely on that basis you are free to leave the shop with your goods FOC?

No there is absolutely no truth in this whatsoever! Please don’t try this at home. :sunglasses:

What about the notices in petrol stations that say “ensure you are able to pay becore filling up” etc? You check you have a fuel/credit/debt card, fuel up and find their machine’s broken or your card has packed up. Can they call the police as many garages threaten?

Muckaway:
What about the notices in petrol stations that say “ensure you are able to pay becore filling up” etc? You check you have a fuel/credit/debt card, fuel up and find their machine’s broken or your card has packed up. Can they call the police as many garages threaten?

No you fill out a form promising to pay, stick a false plate on and i reckon you’d be home free!

Juddian:
The strange way of things these days, maybe they don’t really want cash customers any more these days just like car dealers, don’t make enough on a straight sale so hoping you’ll be going for the never never where they take a nice slice off the top, there was a time when cash was king.

As a former car salesman I can inform you that you are as wrong as a Traffic planner there.

Car dealers don’t like cash deals for a number of reasons but if you want to pay with hard earned rather than hard repayed then you can do. It is against the law to predjudice a cash deal over a finance deal. The only loophole available is in things like Finance Deposit Allowances and the like.

Reasons for not accepting cash are thus:

:: Over a certain amount you have to have HMRC in to check the transaction for counterfitting and money laundering.

:: You have to pay two people to deal with the payment rather than one. The salesman and the boss to counter count it.

:: it takes a hell of a lot longer to bank cash than it does to bank a card payment.

:: If you are holding large amounts of cash on site you pay massive insurance bills.

:: It is easier to miss a fake when you are checking large numbers of notes.

:: Big cash payments and on the whole, big denomination notes, tends to mean ■■■■■■. Not always but often. ■■■■■■ are bad news and you do all you can not to sell to them.

:: Most car sales departments dont carry a float so you have to run around looking for the change, and there is always a need for change. The customer paying cash will also come in late at night or on a Saturday/Sunday to collect, when there is no one in Service or Parts who do carry a float and should therefore be able to make that change for you. Instead lunch goes out the window because the sale muggins has to make the change himself before hoping to god the boss eventually pays it back.

Montmerency:

bazza123:

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

I wonder if there’s an element of truth to this you know. You have shown that you wanted to purchase something, have offered a. £50 note, perfectly legally, which the shopkeeper has declined to accept. Surely on that basis you are free to leave the shop with your goods FOC?

No there is absolutely no truth in this whatsoever! Please don’t try this at home. :sunglasses:

I would love to know what a lawyer would say to this. Isn’t there a forum member on here who is one■■?

Question to the mods: Why is a common term for caravan based folk of generally Irish origin a filtered word?

nsmith1180:
Question to the mods: Why is a common term for caravan based folk of generally Irish origin a filtered word?

I’m not a mod, but I’m thinking it’s because in 2013 it’s deemed a bit impolite. For example, if I was on an Irish forum, I would best avoid ranting about knackers. I think you’re okay with member(s) of the travelling community though. :stuck_out_tongue:

(I prefer spelling it with a “y” rather than an “i”, :wink: but I’m sure they’ll cover all bases)

ETA: It is odd how they auto censor the “i” spelling (Do a search of the word here a get 13 results though). The “y” spelling isn’t (yet also a correct spelling) and a TNUK search drags up 25 results.

I hated cash sales on Smiths. People expected me to carry change, on more than one occasion I was asked by customers to give change out of my own pocket. I just told them I was a lorry driver, not a shop keeper.
I knew of one mixer driver who had pay docked because one of the notes was a forgery.

bazza123:

Montmerency:

bazza123:

Santa:

shuttlespanker:
Was there a notice clearly visible on display stating that the shop does not accept the money, whether it be English, Scottish or Irish, for whatever reason?

If there is no sign on display, then you are perfectly legally entitled to walk out with the goods for free, as you have offered to pay, and they have refused payment

I have been told this by a shop owner AND a police officer, the shop owner did take the £50 note, but when I queried it, he explained it, and the police officer told the petrol station attendant, I got £40 of free diesel because they refused to accept some scottish money :grimacing:

So, next time anyone refuses to take money, look for the notice :wink:

This is complete ■■■■■■■■. If you go into a shop and offer to buy something that is on display, the shopkeeper can quite legally refuse to sell it to you. He doesn’t need any reason at all, although if you are a ‘protected’ minority (black, gay, whatever) you might accuse him of illegal prejudice.

I wonder if there’s an element of truth to this you know. You have shown that you wanted to purchase something, have offered a. £50 note, perfectly legally, which the shopkeeper has declined to accept. Surely on that basis you are free to leave the shop with your goods FOC?

No there is absolutely no truth in this whatsoever! Please don’t try this at home. :sunglasses:

I would love to know what a lawyer would say to this. Isn’t there a forum member on here who is one■■?

I did learn about this in the two years I did of a law degree and no, you cant simply walk out with free goods simply because you waved some money around. The contract is not complete until the shopkeeper has accepted your money, not before. Like someone said, they ‘invite you to treat’, you offer them a price, they choose if they should accept it or not. Likewise the common myth that something priced up wrong in a shop has to be sold at that price is just that, a myth. A merchant may choose to sell it to you for that price to keep you happy but they have no legal obligation to. Both sides only agree to full contract when money has been exchanged and accepted, any time before that the shop keeper can refuse to sell the goods to you for whatever reason. So don’t go walking out of shops without paying, you’ll be the one in court.

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