I say that where a small housing estate has only one means of entry and exit, and this entry has circular 7.5 tonne prohibition signs displayed, without “except for access” plates beneath, then with the exception of emergency vehicles, or those which have obtained exemption from a suitable authority, goods vehicles over 7.5 tonnes cannot pass those signs for any reason whatsoever, including having a delivery to one of the houses on that estate.
Its going to be an odd place to live, for unless there is other access…
no one can move their belongings in or out except for in a small puddle jumper
no dustcarts can enter
no fire engines can attend
no builders lorries can deliver materials
in theory the estate couldn’t have been built in the first place if the signs went up first
I’ve had a similar scenario, where I’ve been sent to a drop in said village, stopped close to the 7.5T boundary and called the office to tell them the situation, they’ll either phone the customer and ask them to bring a van to you and take it from there, or tell me to bring it back to the yard as the customer didn’t advise the haulier/supplier of the 7.5T and a re-delivery charge would be applicable
Juddian:
Its going to be an odd place to live, for unless there is other access…
no one can move their belongings in or out except for in a small puddle jumper
no dustcarts can enter
no fire engines can attend
no builders lorries can deliver materials
in theory the estate couldn’t have been built in the first place if the signs went up first
I’d be assuming that fire engines are exempt and that dustcarts have some type of official dispensation? As for builders merchants’ lorries, I don’t know. The bottom line is that I refused to do a delivery of a garden table to a private address today because there was no way of reaching the customer’s address without entering a 7.5 tonne restricted area in a 28 tonne vehicle.
I phoned the customer to explain this, and he said “Can’t you carry it there, it’s only 600 yards?”. (The table weighed 40kg and it was ■■■■■■■ with rain at the time) and I politely explained that I wouldn’t be doing that.
Not in a builder’s merchant’s lorry but have done several deliveries to houses in villages where the builders have had to come and shuttle stuff across a weak bridge in their van.
Juddian:
Its going to be an odd place to live, for unless there is other access…
no one can move their belongings in or out except for in a small puddle jumper
no dustcarts can enter
no fire engines can attend
no builders lorries can deliver materials
in theory the estate couldn’t have been built in the first place if the signs went up first
I’d be assuming that fire engines are exempt and that dustcarts have some type of official dispensation? As for builders merchants’ lorries, I don’t know. The bottom line is that I refused to do a delivery of a garden table to a private address today because there was no way of reaching the customer’s address without entering a 7.5 tonne restricted area in a 28 tonne vehicle.
I phoned the customer to explain this, and he said “Can’t you carry it there, it’s only 600 yards?”. (The table weighed 40kg and it was ■■■■■■■ with rain at the time) and I politely explained that I wouldn’t be doing that.
Should of told the customer that as it’s only 600 yards he was welcome to walk to you and collect it.
Juddian:
Its going to be an odd place to live, for unless there is other access…
no one can move their belongings in or out except for in a small puddle jumper
no dustcarts can enter
no fire engines can attend
no builders lorries can deliver materials
in theory the estate couldn’t have been built in the first place if the signs went up first
I’d be assuming that fire engines are exempt and that dustcarts have some type of official dispensation? As for builders merchants’ lorries, I don’t know. The bottom line is that I refused to do a delivery of a garden table to a private address today because there was no way of reaching the customer’s address without entering a 7.5 tonne restricted area in a 28 tonne vehicle.
I phoned the customer to explain this, and he said “Can’t you carry it there, it’s only 600 yards?”. (The table weighed 40kg and it was ■■■■■■■ with rain at the time) and I politely explained that I wouldn’t be doing that.
it couldn’t have been raining ,as it only rains up here in jockland ,Council up here anyway do have LF bin trucks ,so no need for Merc econonics .As you say all emergency services will be excluded…If there is a weight limit obey it as sure as hell ,if there is monoblock etc some neighbour will put in a claim
If the roads are suitable deliver it simples. Never heard anything so ridiculous oh I can’t deliver there because of a weight limit. Yes if the roads are impassable for the vehicle or no where to turn around then fair enough. How else would removals companies move people in? They are not going to ask for special dispensation. And who is going to fine you? You have proof your delivering to an address in that weight restriction so are covered in my book. I would have walked down to ensure it was suitable and delivered if it was all good.
Forest Hill on the South Circular. The weight limit sign in the picture reads 16.5t and has been there ever since the London Lorry Control Ban 1st came about. The supplementary board with the times on it fell down years ago and the lazy council have never bothered to put it back up. As we know there have been two increases in GVW for 2 axle vehicles since this sign went up, but that hasn’t been changed either. So now all maximum size two axle vehicles are effectively banned.
I always thought the except for access plates were to allow access to an adjoining road if it’s the only way in. Hence a cul-de-sac with one point of entry wouldn’t need one, as access wouldn’t be needed for any further points
OVLOV JAY:
I always thought the except for access plates were to allow access to an adjoining road if it’s the only way in. Hence a cul-de-sac with one point of entry wouldn’t need one, as access wouldn’t be needed for any further points
It’s usually more a case of 7.5 t limits being put in to stop trucks getting through access along roads where they don’t want them.There are plenty of examples near here where selective strategic turnings off of unlimited roads like the A 243 are subject to 7.5 t limits to stop rat running heavy vehicles,while closes turning from the same road aren’t subject to any weight limits at all.On that note it sounds unusual that a 7.5 t limit zone wouldn’t have provision for access which is why they also sometimes put 6’6’’ width limits together with the weight limits at one end of the zone to enforce it further.
I think if you are delivering in the limit and that is the only way in then if you got stopped by a cooper for you’d be unlucky to start with. You then be reasonable with them and don’t play the whole “have you nothing better to do” card and explain why your there and where your going and get your maps out, then you’d be even more unlucky for them to not let you off for it. Then if they still don’t let you off you could just pay the fine and take it as being unlucky or you could dispute it where they probably wouldn’t even bother. Overall, as long as I knew that was the only way in and I wasn’t using it as a through route then I’d just crack on.
Rowley010:
I think if you are delivering in the limit and that is the only way in then if you got stopped by a cooper for you’d be unlucky to start with.
What authority would a barrel maker have to stop you?
Manningtree and Mistley dock is surrounded by a 7.5t weight limit with no exceptions, and is used on a daily basis by trucks delivering to and collecting from the dock and nobody bothers about it.
This is the way into Mistley off the A137 to avoid the narrow roads in Manningtree.
So it must be legal to pass the sign.
simcor:
And who is going to fine you? You have proof your delivering to an address in that weight restriction so are covered in my book.
No you’re not because there is no “Except for access” dispensation so you’re not allowed in fullstop.
That would be my understanding of it, but it does seem from other replies that the meaning of weight limit signs is far from being as universally agreed on as, say, a “no entry” sign. My understanding is that a 7.5 tonne weight limit sign is a prohibition sign and it is illegal to pass one unless access is required to a location within the zone and there is an “except for access” plate qualifying the weight limit restriction.
should of told the ■■■■ to get on his toes. 
