7,000 double-decker trailers under threat from EU plans

Here we go again!
The European Commission are sticking their noses into our affairs again and coming up with yet another bright idea which will cost operators money.
About 7,000 double-decker trailers in the UK will have to be phased out if Europe-wide proposals for a 4m-height limit is introduced,
Read the full article HERE courtesy of Roadtransport.com

If that came in we would have to replace two vehicles with three on two of our trunks, so potentially 7000 become 9300 without deckers. Really green that is. :unamused: But think of all the extra tax the govt would earn from them.

Surely it would mean more jobs…?

Sounds like more easy trunking jobs available for them that like them!
Is there anywhere that doesn’t use double-deckers for trunking these days?

It’ll never happen - there’ll just be an almighty ruck between the bunch who want everything standardised and the tree-huggers. The sheer increase in the number of trucks required to move the same amount of stuff means it’ll never happen.

It’s not just double deckers that are affected - when you are driving around see how many UK trailers you can spot that are under 4m (13 foot!) - very few.

We have to rethink our engineering and follow the European example, it was they who modernised the transport fleet in Europe, instead of going higher, they went lower. They still manage 100 cube on an an artic and 120+ cube on a roadtrain while still keeping it all under 4 metres high. Most UK container hauliers would not be able to operate in Europe but they are carrying exactly the same containers.

If the TV programme is to be believed the only double deckers Stobart should be allowed to run is these, until they can get their planners to be able to read a road map.

Wheel Nut:
We have to rethink our engineering and follow the European example, it was they who modernised the transport fleet in Europe, instead of going higher, they went lower. They still manage 100 cube on an an artic and 120+ cube on a roadtrain while still keeping it all under 4 metres high. Most UK container hauliers would not be able to operate in Europe but they are carrying exactly the same containers.

Bloody hell, I’ve never seen a P&O Ferrymaster trailer like that, must be a new one. Most are lacking boards, have rips/cuts in the curtains, full of rubbish (not just the load, hehehe) and look like crap. :laughing: :laughing:
I drive a DD, can’t see them getting rid, they hold so much. I don’t like the crappy little wheels and the 10 minutes it takes to lift up or down the top deck. :unamused: :unamused: Other than that they do the job well. :open_mouth:

Wheel Nut:
We have to rethink our engineering and follow the European example, it was they who modernised the transport fleet in Europe, instead of going higher, they went lower. They still manage 100 cube on an an artic and 120+ cube on a roadtrain while still keeping it all under 4 metres high. Most UK container hauliers would not be able to operate in Europe but they are carrying exactly the same containers.

Additional benefits of this would be to lower the center of gravity reducing rollover risk. Also being on the trailer bed would be safer due to not being so far from the ground. Lower for throwing straps and ropes over as well. Reduced risk of bridge strikes… The list goes on :smiley:

The problem Malc is, as those of us who have used it know, lower profile equipment requires a bit more driver thought and input. With most drivers so busy being so angry about so many things they may not have any spare thought capacity :unamused:

Man, I love the posters on here. Raving about ■■■■ Denbys motor and the wearers of cheap beach footwear taking jobs then raving about this that may well create them :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

In fact I’m so incensed I may start some kind of online petition, or bring out the big guns with a #dramatic drum roll# Facebook group :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

bring it in its got to mean more work will be out there for drivers,scrap yards to get rid of old trailers bodyshops to convert the rest

billybigrig:

Wheel Nut:
We have to rethink our engineering and follow the European example, it was they who modernised the transport fleet in Europe, instead of going higher, they went lower. They still manage 100 cube on an an artic and 120+ cube on a roadtrain while still keeping it all under 4 metres high. Most UK container hauliers would not be able to operate in Europe but they are carrying exactly the same containers.

Additional benefits of this would be to lower the center of gravity reducing rollover risk. Also being on the trailer bed would be safer due to not being so far from the ground. Lower for throwing straps and ropes over as well. Reduced risk of bridge strikes… The list goes on :smiley:

The problem Malc is, as those of us who have used it know, lower profile equipment requires a bit more driver thought and input. With most drivers so busy being so angry about so many things they may not have any spare thought capacity :unamused:

Man, I love the posters on here. Raving about ■■■■ Denbys motor and the wearers of cheap beach footwear taking jobs then raving about this that may well create them :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

In fact I’m so incensed I may start some kind of online petition, or bring out the big guns with a #dramatic drum roll# Facebook group :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Brilliant post, where do I sign. We do many things differently in the UK, some of them benefit the tourist industry. We still have little red phone boxes to wee in, we have double decker buses for Japanese people to photograph. We cannot use the phone boxes because no one sells the cards or they are never open. We have pubs with smoking room written on the windows, yet you have to stand in the doorway. We have thousands of policemen sat in offices, yet have civilians trying to rid us of criminals and poor drivers.

We have little cute trains with less seats than the double decker bus. I don’t think tourists are interested in photographing a rusty scratched trailer full of toilet rolls, especially when it stinks of ■■■■. We have a Victorian railway system that cannot cope with modern transport units, yet the Continentals have double deck trains and the Americans can carry containers two high on their trains.

I can’t see it happening. No way. More diesel, more trucks, more pollution, more congestion, more companies going bust or maybe the rates will rise (if pigs fly) As someone previously mentioned it’s not just double deckers, the majority of the UK uses trailers over 4M anyway so the whole lot will have to go. Naaa it’s not feasible in my opinion.

doubling the amount of trailers on the road is fine by me.(more stuff to go wrong) :smiley:
the only way the driver would be affected is if they are paid by the cubic metre.
other than that there will be a severe driver shortage,and the last time that happened wages increased until the jobs were filled by european drivers. :unamused:

We would have to replace our entire fleet of 40+ curtainsiders , 6 are double deckers and the rest are all 4.2m.
TBH I dont know why weve got 4.2m trailers we only work for 2 or 3 customers (part of a group so were a in house haulier) and the trailers are never loaded to the roof , always a good 2 or 3 ft clearance inside at least.

fantastic idea,bring it on the only sensible law in europe .would pretty much end a lot of bridge bashing the rest of european industry gets by with 4 m high 100 cube trailers cant see why we cant.scrap those double deck death traps asap they are a danger in any more than a light breeze

Wheel Nut:
We have to rethink our engineering and follow the European example, it was they who modernised the transport fleet in Europe, instead of going higher, they went lower. They still manage 100 cube on an an artic and 120+ cube on a roadtrain while still keeping it all under 4 metres high. Most UK container hauliers would not be able to operate in Europe but they are carrying exactly the same containers.

You are spot on.
A lot of the time there is no need for tall trailers as the loads arent that high. A well spec’d euroliner has a suprisingly high internal height anyway.

France and Spain also use a lot of trailers over 4 mtr as well so this would affect them also?

Don’t like the look or design of tilts, with all that wooden board ■■■■■■■■ and a stick to hold the curtain up??

But, if they could drop ours down to 4m, I wouldn’t complain, but there’d still be loads of bridge strikes, especially around North yorks / Lancs where a lot of bridges are still 11’ and stupid heights like that, and the same stupid people will still hit them as the stupid people that hit 14’ bridges with a 16’ trailer.

Get it on the railways I says

It could mean more jobs in theory but then it could see more companies going to the wall as for what ever work a decker does it would then require x2 trucks and man power for the same work.

The euro lads use mega trailers to get round the height issues but do mega trailers have 2 floors like a decker?

Even with a mega cube type trailer, unless it has the 2 floors it would never hold the same amount of pallet floor space as a decker.

Also if running a mega wouldnt the 5th wheel heights and weight on axles depending if running a lowliner tractor have to be changed?