Just been tuped over to a new outfit,my old company use to pay our breaks regardless how many we took,the new company are saying that we will get deducted a 45 min break this adds up to a lot of Money in a year,My argument to them due to the nature of the goods we carry flammable liquids in tankers adr we should be in supervision of the vehicle at all times during the working day if it is the case if they are right, to deduct a break then am ok to leave the vehicle load unsupervised for 45 min
I said exactly the same, and then they paid breaks.
Happy sole:
Just been tuped over to a new outfit,my old company use to pay our breaks regardless how many we took,the new company are saying that we will get deducted a 45 min break this adds up to a lot of Money in a year,My argument to them due to the nature of the goods we carry flammable liquids in tankers adr we should be in supervision of the vehicle at all times during the working day if it is the case if they are right, to deduct a break then am ok to leave the vehicle load unsupervised for 45 min
If you agreed to accept your employment on the basis that you were paid straight through with no deductions, that’s how it will stay, unless you agree to sign a new contract of employment to take that wage cut into account, of course your not obliged to accept these new pay conditions.
Also they cannot just come in and ask you to sign a new contract from day 1 either.
If you’re saying that you need to supervise your load at all times and not leave the vehicle unattended then technically you’re not having a break, even ADR loads don’t require constant supervision, your break is your time to do with what you like but if you can’t stray from the vehicle or get your head down then you’re still ‘on duty’.
Unless they can route you to be in yard for every break they should be paying it as you can’t leave tankers unattended
No had this problem About 15 years ago, VOSA then agreed that the load has to be supervised at all times or parked in a supervised compound, that’s the nature of the job persue it.
Rentadent:
If you’re saying that you need to supervise your load at all times and not leave the vehicle unattended then technically you’re not having a break, even ADR loads don’t require constant supervision, your break is your time to do with what you like but if you can’t stray from the vehicle or get your head down then you’re still ‘on duty’.
Your not on duty when sleeping in your bunk, so this doesn’t apply
weeto:
Happy sole:
Just been tuped over to a new outfit,my old company use to pay our breaks regardless how many we took,the new company are saying that we will get deducted a 45 min break this adds up to a lot of Money in a year,My argument to them due to the nature of the goods we carry flammable liquids in tankers adr we should be in supervision of the vehicle at all times during the working day if it is the case if they are right, to deduct a break then am ok to leave the vehicle load unsupervised for 45 minIf you agreed to accept your employment on the basis that you were paid straight through with no deductions, that’s how it will stay, unless you agree to sign a new contract of employment to take that wage cut into account, of course your not obliged to accept these new pay conditions.
Also they cannot just come in and ask you to sign a new contract from day 1 either.
easymovespain:
Rentadent:
If you’re saying that you need to supervise your load at all times and not leave the vehicle unattended then technically you’re not having a break, even ADR loads don’t require constant supervision, your break is your time to do with what you like but if you can’t stray from the vehicle or get your head down then you’re still ‘on duty’.Your not on duty when sleeping in your bunk, so this doesn’t apply
weeto:
Happy sole:
Just been tuped over to a new outfit,my old company use to pay our breaks regardless how many we took,the new company are saying that we will get deducted a 45 min break this adds up to a lot of Money in a year,My argument to them due to the nature of the goods we carry flammable liquids in tankers adr we should be in supervision of the vehicle at all times during the working day if it is the case if they are right, to deduct a break then am ok to leave the vehicle load unsupervised for 45 minIf you agreed to accept your employment on the basis that you were paid straight through with no deductions, that’s how it will stay, unless you agree to sign a new contract of employment to take that wage cut into account, of course your not obliged to accept these new pay conditions.
Also they cannot just come in and ask you to sign a new contract from day 1 either.
THIS ^^^^ good god I love a moan as well as the next guy but by Christ how many sit alert watching the rear of the vehicle whilst on a 45■■
yes I agree if it is costing you then fair enough but there are 2 similar posts on here which make truck drivers sound like they are on a stakeout when on a break.
so when im weekended with a ADR load and go for a walk round in Germany France or were ever i can’t leave it unattended . who make this ■■■■■ up 
. after 25 years on tanks ive left them all over Europe unattended and never had a problem . 
Well you have been breaking the rules unless you have left a responsible person in charge of it, who knows what to do in an emergency and it has been left so the general public have no access to it. Don’t let things slip driver.
easymovespain:
Well you have been breaking the rules unless you have left a responsible person in charge of it, who knows what to do in an emergency and it has been left so the general public have no access to it. Don’t let things slip driver.
What do you do when you want a ■■■■?
easymovespain:
Well you have been breaking the rules unless you have left a responsible person in charge of it, who knows what to do in an emergency and it has been left so the general public have no access to it. Don’t let things slip driver.
don’t talk bolloks
There’s a bit of a mix up here with “break” and “rest”.
During breaks, ADR vehicles are no different - park in a safe, suitable place etc. It’s only for daily/weekly rests that there are higher security standards imposed as the driver may not be able to supervise the vehicle.
With regards to being legally required to supervise the vehicle during a break, it would mean that you were not freely available to dispose of your time, so it couldn’t really be a break at all. And as for your TUPE arrangements, I would agree losing 45 mins of pay a day would be a significant decrease, so certainly kick up about it.
Read the A DR industry guidelines, yes dump a tank of bleach anywhere, I would hate to see you leave a tank of toluene or petrol anywhere unattended,mention that to your boss or even the DVSA.
easymovespain:
Read the A DR industry guidelines, yes dump a tank of bleach anywhere, I would hate to see you leave a tank of toluene or petrol anywhere unattended,mention that to your boss or even the DVSA.
so when i used to take racing fuel down to Ferrari at maranello and had to clear customs in Milan how was i suppose to clear without leaving the truck ?