Lad tells me this morning that they are on £30 per hour at Gist / M&S Barnsley
guaranteed 7.5 hour shift 5 over 7
That’s nice.
£30? my mate at M&S Barnsley never said anything about it
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I’d say someone is talking ■■■■■■■■ lol
Few have left our spot to go up there. Last I saw it was £14.25ph. £1k joining bonus
£30 must be agency rates, don’t think any employers have got that keen just yet, just lots of one time sign on bonuses
SHYTOT:
Lad tells me this morning that they are on £30 per hour at Gist / M&S Barnsley
guaranteed 7.5 hour shift 5 over 7
Agencies don’t usually pay the same rate for all hours. Usually there’s a range of rates depending when during the week you are working and if you are on overtime, etc. How is the agency paying £30/hour for Mon-Fri days going to cover nights and weekends if there isn’t enhanced pay for those less desirable hours? Maybe the £30/hour is only paid for the sixth shift that week after having worked the first five shifts that week at a lower £15/hour?
Well Alligra is advertising £30/hr Mon-Fri at somewhere in Doncaster with guaranteed min 10hrs and someone on a Facebook group actually phoned them up to prod them about it. They’re already paying that at Lidl at Newton Aycliffe.
That’s just not sustainable unless your job involves a lot more than just driving the truck.
Gavv8:
That’s just not sustainable unless your job involves a lot more than just driving the truck.
Why is it not sustainable? Paying the driver an additional £15 per hour adds £165 or so to the cost of employing him for 10 hours. That cost is spread over however many deliveries he makes during that shift. I can’t see typical supermarket margins being so tight that they can’t cover it in the long term.
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Roymondo:
Gavv8:
That’s just not sustainable unless your job involves a lot more than just driving the truck.Why is it not sustainable? Paying the driver an additional £15 per hour adds £165 or so to the cost of employing him for 10 hours. That cost is spread over however many deliveries he makes during that shift. I can’t see typical supermarket margins being so tight that they can’t cover it in the long term.
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Nope sorry totally disagree, maybe for heavy haulage involving different licenses and disciplines or specialist chemicals but not supermarket work which is about as easy as it gets.
Gavv8:
Roymondo:
Gavv8:
That’s just not sustainable unless your job involves a lot more than just driving the truck.Why is it not sustainable? Paying the driver an additional £15 per hour adds £165 or so to the cost of employing him for 10 hours. That cost is spread over however many deliveries he makes during that shift. I can’t see typical supermarket margins being so tight that they can’t cover it in the long term.
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Nope sorry totally disagree, maybe for heavy haulage involving different licenses and disciplines or specialist chemicals but not supermarket work which is about as easy as it gets.
I appreciate that you don’t think it is sustainable - my question is why do you think that? Why is the fact that it’s easy work relevant? Either the supermarkets can afford to keep paying the higher rate, or they can’t. The relative complexity of the work is not relevant to the question.
Roymondo:
Gavv8:
Roymondo:
Gavv8:
That’s just not sustainable unless your job involves a lot more than just driving the truck.Why is it not sustainable? Paying the driver an additional £15 per hour adds £165 or so to the cost of employing him for 10 hours. That cost is spread over however many deliveries he makes during that shift. I can’t see typical supermarket margins being so tight that they can’t cover it in the long term.
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Nope sorry totally disagree, maybe for heavy haulage involving different licenses and disciplines or specialist chemicals but not supermarket work which is about as easy as it gets.
I appreciate that you don’t think it is sustainable - my question is why do you think that? Why is the fact that it’s easy work relevant? Either the supermarkets can afford to keep paying the higher rate, or they can’t. The relative complexity of the work is not relevant to the question.
Because the supermarkets can only put prices up so far before it becomes a vicious circle of wages having to match the price of living.
I completely agree that wages in the transport industry are finally matching the responsibility of the job but if things are pushed too far it’ll start causing job losses elsewhere and I don’t want to be accused of greedy opportunism.
In my opinion £15-20 an hour depending on experience and the type of job is more than reasonable on C1 and maybe a pound an hour behind it for C2.
Don’t forget higher supermarket prices affect those on much lower earnings.
Gavv8:
Because the supermarkets can only put prices up so far before it becomes a vicious circle of wages having to match the price of living.
I completely agree that wages in the transport industry are finally matching the responsibility of the job but if things are pushed too far it’ll start causing job losses elsewhere and I don’t want to be accused of greedy opportunism.
In my opinion £15-20 an hour depending on experience and the type of job is more than reasonable on C1 and maybe a pound an hour behind it for C2.
Don’t forget higher supermarket prices affect those on much lower earnings.
But what does that have to do with how complex/specialised the job is? As I said earlier, paying the driver an extra £15 an hour adds about £165 to the costs of delivering whatever loads he delivers in his 10 hour shift. If each load was around 16 tonnes of goods and he did 2 such loads in his shift, it adds around half a penny to the delivery cost of each kilogramme of goods on the shelf. Double that to account for earlier stages in the supply chain and it adds 1p per kilogramme. What’s “not sustainable” about that, even if the whole cost is passed on in the form of higher prices? How heavy is a typical week’s grocery shopping?
Let’s not forget supermarkets don’t just adjust a profit margin by increasing sales prices. They dictate the price they purchase at, try asking a farmer what they charge for their produce. They don’t set their own prices, the supermarket tell them what they will pay for it 
fridger:
Let’s not forget supermarkets don’t just adjust a profit margin by increasing sales prices. They dictate the price they purchase at, try asking a farmer what they charge for their produce. They don’t set their own prices, the supermarket tell them what they will pay for it
A chicken farmer who lives near me and I bump into socially occasionally told me that his main business was once Tesco and they dictated the price. They once told him that as part of some new initiative that the birds had to be ethically treated (a perch and a window apparently) so he went away, did his sums and informed Tesco that he was happy to oblige and it would put 20p per kilo on the price. They laughed (figuratively) and informed him there’d be no increase and they were actually looking at a cut. He in turn cut his nose off to spite his face and told them to ■■■■ right off.
It’s taken him almost five years of hard work but his business is finally more profitable than it was before, and he has the great pleasure of Tesco sniffing around and telling them two words, the last one being OFF.
May be the rates going for xmas and/or boxing day?
fridger:
Let’s not forget supermarkets don’t just adjust a profit margin by increasing sales prices. They dictate the price they purchase at, try asking a farmer what they charge for their produce. They don’t set their own prices, the supermarket tell them what they will pay for it
I remember been told years ago with the Brewery’s that the Supermarkets dictated what they were paying,used to be they had to order so many thousands of cases to get it at a fixed price,if they ordered less once then they had to pay full whack for the last quarter,hence why they used to do the 3 for £15 e.t.c,Carlsberg got fed up and had a fall out with Tesco,they removed most of there products from the shelves,Scottish&Newcastle stepped in and filled the shelf space(no sticking together)
Best one I heard was Bradfield Brewery(Nth Sheffield),they are farmers and diversed into brewing,Tesco approached them for there products as it took off in a big way and Bradfield told them to do one,they’d cut the price they used to pay for the milk so they weren’t having the beer…