Do we really need to indicate you are leaving a motorway, unless there is someone really tight up your arse, in which case they probably wont see it.
There is certainly no need to brake for a sliproad like many do, it is like teddy bear or comfort braking 
I donāt make pointless signals when leaving or entering the motorway, if a vehicle is close enough to overtake when Iām about to leave I will signal, I tend not to bother when entering unless a vehicle is close (Itās quite obvious Iām not going to drive along the hard shoulder and will be joining the motorway).
Try this, when driving along an empty motorway see how many indicate to leave or enter, or how many indicate to overtake when there is nothing behind, force of habit or are they not really looking?
mike68:
I donāt make pointless signals when leaving or entering the motorway, if a vehicle is close enough to overtake when Iām about to leave I will signal, I tend not to bother when entering unless a vehicle is close (Itās quite obvious Iām not going to drive along the hard shoulder and will be joining the motorway).Try this, when driving along an empty motorway see how many indicate to leave or enter, or how many indicate to overtake when there is nothing behind, force of habit or are they not really looking?
Probably force of habit, Iāve noticed I quite often indicate working nights when thereās nothing around, then again Iād rarther people did that then didnāt bother at all.
Keeps me in habit of doing it so I do.
In a truck or coach I indicate at 300 yard marker, every time, regardless if there are any vehicles around or not.
In a car, at the 200 yard marker.
On my motorbike, between the 200 and 100 yard markers.
Cheers
Paul
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gardun:
It depends on what is behind you and how close. If nobody is close enough to be affected I donāt signal; if it will help someone behind me plan their moves I will signal before the markers. I donāt think you can make a rule about it, every time is different.
Thatās the worst thing to think, I hate it when people think like that. You might not have seen something, so always indicate.
Itās worse on A roads, my missus walks and nearly gets run over by idiots not indicating and filtering off main roads - with lines seperating them.
It costs ā ā ā ā all to indicate, so indicate. If us āso called professional driversā (100 points?) canāt do it, then why would we expect commuters or shoppers or school run drivers to do it?
mike68:
I donāt make pointless signals when leaving or entering the motorway, if a vehicle is close enough to overtake when Iām about to leave I will signal, I tend not to bother when entering unless a vehicle is close (Itās quite obvious Iām not going to drive along the hard shoulder and will be joining the motorway).Try this, when driving along an empty motorway see how many indicate to leave or enter, or how many indicate to overtake when there is nothing behind, force of habit or are they not really looking?
I agree 100% with the above. Iām constantly bemused by balloons who think it is acceptable to barge their way in front of me using no indicators when they join the carriageway and then proceed to indicate right to move into lane two when there is no other traffic in sight!
I usually indicate to come off at around the 200 mark unless the aforementioned balloon is 2 inches off my rear bumper straddling the h/s and not indicating, then I donāt bother either. The same applies when entering a carriageway too, if he canāt be bothered to indicate, then neither can I.
RoSPA guidlines (advanced motorcycle) suggest that you should start to indicate between the 300 and 200 yard markers, but amongst the circle of advanced riders I train with the common train of thought is that if there is no one around then there is no need to indicate at all.
300 yard marker for me every time, except when on the A1 s/b coming off for S/Emsall, I start indicating just as I pass the layby entrance then start slowing, that slip is SHORT & narrow.
steve the argonaut:
RoSPA guidlines (advanced motorcycle) suggest that you should start to indicate between the 300 and 200 yard markers, but amongst the circle of advanced riders I train with the common train of thought is that if there is no one around then there is no need to indicate at all.
Which is WRONG. You as a biker should definately know how easy it is to not get noticed off someone, so if thereās nobody around thereās no need to indicate - oh sorry mate, didnāt see you there.
For my car test I was told that indicating when no-one could benefit from that signal would be a minor 
. However for my truck tests the opposite was taught and I received a minor for not signalling n/b m1 going left in l/h lane towards x green ind estate (A63):shock: .
mike68:
I donāt make pointless signals when leaving or entering the motorway, if a vehicle is close enough to overtake when Iām about to leave I will signal, I tend not to bother when entering unless a vehicle is close (Itās quite obvious Iām not going to drive along the hard shoulder and will be joining the motorway).Try this, when driving along an empty motorway see how many indicate to leave or enter, or how many indicate to overtake when there is nothing behind, force of habit or are they not really looking?
can i have one of those lorries without blindspots? 
i indicate at the 200yd marker
waynedl:
steve the argonaut:
RoSPA guidlines (advanced motorcycle) suggest that you should start to indicate between the 300 and 200 yard markers, but amongst the circle of advanced riders I train with the common train of thought is that if there is no one around then there is no need to indicate at all.Which is WRONG. You as a biker should definately know how easy it is to not get noticed off someone, so if thereās nobody around thereās no need to indicate - oh sorry mate, didnāt see you there.
It is not wrong, a biker is aware what is around him because he can hear and use peripheral vision. You cannot do that when you are chatting to a passenger, changing a CD, on the telephone or lighting a ā ā ā .
Nothing around you, no need to indicate to them
Wheel Nut:
a biker is aware what is around him because he can hear and use peripheral vision.
Not the ones Iāve met.
sonflowerinwales:
In a truck or coach I indicate at 300 yard marker, every time, regardless if there are any vehicles around or not.
In a car, at the 200 yard marker.
On my motorbike, between the 200 and 100 yard markers.
Is that not the opposite of what you want? As - correct me if Iām wrong - youāre going faster in the car and on the bike, that actually gives the people around you less time to see what youāre doing all other things being equal.
I always try and give a sufficient number of flashes that the people around me can plan their manoeuvres accordingly, and if Iām going twice the speed I need to indicate twice the distance away.
I indicate at 200 yards but I think indicators are becoming a thing of the past.
By that I mean they have not been fitted to Beemers for years and it would appear over the last year or so that Audi are going the same way. 
Ian G:
Wheel Nut:
a biker is aware what is around him because he can hear and use peripheral vision.Not the ones Iāve met.
How many bikers have you heard say, āSorry mate I didnāt see youā
waynedl:
steve the argonaut:
RoSPA guidlines (advanced motorcycle) suggest that you should start to indicate between the 300 and 200 yard markers, but amongst the circle of advanced riders I train with the common train of thought is that if there is no one around then there is no need to indicate at all.Which is WRONG. You as a biker should definately know how easy it is to not get noticed off someone, so if thereās nobody around thereās no need to indicate - oh sorry mate, didnāt see you there.
What ā ā please rewrite your posting in English so it makes sense.
If theres NO ONE around who is going to ānot see you thereā !!!
steve the argonaut:
waynedl:
steve the argonaut:
RoSPA guidlines (advanced motorcycle) suggest that you should start to indicate between the 300 and 200 yard markers, but amongst the circle of advanced riders I train with the common train of thought is that if there is no one around then there is no need to indicate at all.Which is WRONG. You as a biker should definately know how easy it is to not get noticed off someone, so if thereās nobody around thereās no need to indicate - oh sorry mate, didnāt see you there.
What ā ā please rewrite your posting in English so it makes sense.
If theres NO ONE around who is going to ānot see you thereā !!!
Try learning to read or actually engaging your brain, itās in plain and simple English ya muppet 
Gridley51:
I indicate at 200 yards but I think indicators are becoming a thing of the past.
By that I mean they have not been fitted to Beemers for years and it would appear over the last year or so that Audi are going the same way.
I followed a BMW some time ago - not one indication anywhere. When he pulled up, I went over and introduced myself (electrician in signwritten van), and gave him a card, and offered to take a look at his car for him, as I could see his indicators didnāt work, and I was sure it was only a simple fault, and Iād see if I could sort it for him, to avoid any accidents.
He spluttered for a bit, then mumbled about nothing wrong, and took off! It could have gone a bit wrong, and I could have got smacked, but I enjoyed it at the time!
Another time, another BMW. I was waiting at the pump at Tesco in Milton Cambridge, when the guy from the car behind me knocked on my window, and asked if he could go in front of me, as āhis time was more valuable than mineā ! After exchanging views, I made sure that was the longest fill-up I have ever done. Arrogant ā ā ā ā ā
Gary
Wheel Nut:
Ian G:
Wheel Nut:
a biker is aware what is around him because he can hear and use peripheral vision.Not the ones Iāve met.
How many bikers have you heard say, āSorry mate I didnāt see youā
None. But I donāt have a medium on retainer to help me converse with those from the other side.