UKtramp:
robroy:
That’s fair enough Andrew, but I was referring more to the ‘‘Endurance Test’’ crew who see the job as something they have to milk every last second out of every day.
Driving on the limiter constantly, sat on somebdy’s arse, to the within 30 secs of their time.
Parking in the first unsuitable place they find before their time runs out, , only to take their minimum rest to start the whole stress out/[zb] up process again for another 15 hours, …and keep on like that day after day until their inevitable heart attack. 
…knobs. 
They are in 2 camps, the ones who do it voluntary to be Hero no1 in their firm, or the ones who allow themselves to be pushed and hassled beyond belief.
These are the ones that are a danger to every [zb] else on the road …including themselves.
Regardless as to whether or not you do it voluntary or against your will doesn’t make you any less tired or make it any less dangerous. Those who do it are their own worst enemy. The types who think the ridiculous phrase of “keep her lit” is big and clever, those that think making a delivery come what may is the all important factor over safety, they are all in the same camp in my opinion. I am surprised that your union hasn’t stamped this out all together rob?
Nah, even Unions can’t legislate for ■■■■ whiterry. 
Think you wrongly have me down as some kind of ‘Trucker’s Arthur Scargill’ mate…I aint, I just believe in the original concept of Unions to make life better in terms of t.s and c.s to counteract abusive and unscrupulous employers, that is all.
UKtramp:
The types who think the ridiculous phrase of “keep her lit” is big and clever, those that think making a delivery come what may is the all important factor over safety, they are all in the same camp in my opinion.
Ironically ‘keep it lit’ in the sense of 60-65 mph type running speeds and depot to depot trailer swaps and getting finished early therefore more sleep.While applying a matching level of anticipation and forward planning to suit the higher speeds,which also actually helps alertness levels,was/still would be arguably safer than a driver lulled into a sense of la la land by 50-55 mph running and silly long hours created by trucks and drivers being seen as an extension to warehouse operations.With the idea of a 9 hour driving limit combined with potentially less than 7 hours sleep between shifts being a silly contradiction in that regard.
Waiting on the bay last week and kept hearing a high pitched squeal from the drivers cab on the next bay… jokingly asked ‘is that u’ and he showed me what seemed to be a Bluetooth earpiece… I know this driver and his situation to some extent (cost cutting) and also that he moved house (locally) to Ludgershall (cheaper living) and knowing he works nights and has the hours commute either end of his shift is a bit of a worry, seeing as on a couple of occasions he claims to have ‘hit a cone’ that was in the middle of the lane…his lifestyle explains why he always looks knackered!!
Actrosman:
Waiting on the bay last week and kept hearing a high pitched squeal from the drivers cab on the next bay… jokingly asked ‘is that u’ and he showed me what seemed to be a Bluetooth earpiece… I know this driver and his situation to some extent (cost cutting) and also that he moved house (locally) to Ludgershall (cheaper living) and knowing he works nights and has the hours commute either end of his shift is a bit of a worry, seeing as on a couple of occasions he claims to have ‘hit a cone’ that was in the middle of the lane…his lifestyle explains why he always looks knackered!!
Amazing… buys a sleep alarm. Wears it when he should be sleeping.
All cabs should be sleeper cabs - mandatory.
Let’s get rid of the horrid “Day Cabs” which all too frequently get used on overnight runs as well - whilst we, in the haulage industry have got the upper hand on the argument. 
Carryfast:
Ironically ‘keep it lit’ in the sense of 60-65 mph type running speeds and depot to depot trailer swaps and getting finished early therefore more sleep.While applying a matching level of anticipation and forward planning to suit the higher speeds,which also actually helps alertness levels,was/still would be arguably safer than a driver lulled into a sense of la la land by 50-55 mph running
^^^
This
getting there quicker means less driving time and more time off. Plobbing along at (for ex) 85km/h is enough to put anyone to sleep.
Re ‘keep it lit’…‘crack on’…‘flat to the mat’…‘must make the boat button’ …blah blah are all TIC terms and shouldnt really be taken too seriously, 
Winseer:
All cabs should be sleeper cabs - mandatory.
Also bearing in mind that the extra metal can go some way in acting as an energy absorbing crumple zone when it’s crushed against the trailer in a severe collision which tears the cab off its mountings and pushes it backwards into the trailer.Whereas a day cab has nothing to absorb those crushing forces with the driver sitting in that zone.
