Romania and Bulgaria are in all way similar to Russia so EU need to grab them before and stop another possible block of SSSR.
About Croatia its simply , post comunist country which is hungry of freedom and democraty and thrue history peacefull people is not in any way problem to Europe, and best thing its heaven on earth becouse of clima and sea and therefore opportunity to buy all country for some euros. And to correct some in forum IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR, Serbian people an ex Yu army attack us in our country.
croatia:
Romania and Bulgaria are in all way similar to Russia so EU need to grab them before and stop another possible block of SSSR.
About Croatia its simply , post comunist country which is hungry of freedom and democraty and thrue history peacefull people is not in any way problem to Europe, and best thing its heaven on earth becouse of clima and sea and therefore opportunity to buy all country for some euros. And to correct some in forum IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR, Serbian people an ex Yu army attack us in our country.
It was a civil war because the Croats and the Slovenes ( rightly ) fought back when the Federal YU army attacked them when they declared secession from the Yugoslav federation.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-Day_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_W … dependence
The fact is it was a civil war that was no different to that years before in the case of the union v the secessionist states during the American Civil War.The only difference was in that case the secessionists lost 
while in the case of the Yugoslav civil war they won,ironically helped by the USA who in this case ( rightly ) supported the idea of the breakup of a federation when it suited it.Unlike in it’s own case when it did no different to the federal Yugoslav army in invading the South and then forced it to remain part of the US Federation.
While ironically the US then hypocritically supports the idea of federations when it suits it in regards to both the EU and the USA.While those secessionist ex Yugoslav states now for ‘some reason’ seem to be happy enough with the idea of joining another federal cause when it suits them having fought a civil war to extricate themselves from the Yugoslav one when it didn’t.It seems obvious that the future EU federation will be based on hypocricy and lots of different ex east european states all in it for what they can get out of the west european ones.
Until that is the money dries up and/or the federation gets established to the point where any member that wants to secede from the bs European Union will probably end up in exactly the same situation as those secessionist states of the USA and Yugoslavia did in the long term.Unless the whole bs project is broken up now or at least we get out while we’ve got the chance.Instead of us possibly condemning future generations of Brits to that type of a horrific civil war at some point in the future. 
Oh no.
Carryfast:
croatia:
‘… IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR…’‘…It was a civil war because …’
Fight 
Although I’m sure the damp rag, van Rumpuy - that very well paid but undemocratically foisted nobody in-charge - and his bruisers, will bring plenty of covert EU diktats to bring all sides into an anaesthetised state of grey dullness (with UK subscription money) before too long …Zzzzz 
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
croatia:
‘… IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR…’‘…It was a civil war because …’
Fight
Although I’m sure the damp rag, van Rumpuy - that very well paid but undemocratically foisted nobody in-charge - and his bruisers, will bring plenty of covert EU diktats to bring all sides into an anaesthetised state of grey dullness (with UK subscription money) before too long …Zzzzz
There is no room here to fight, we are now all in the same cartridge. As for whether it was a civil war or aggression of one state to another, at that time when the Serbian army attacked Croatia, Croatia was an independent state aswell Slovenia, while Serbia was still in the federation which consisted among other with Bosnia and Herzegovina Macedonia and Montenegro.Therefore, you can not say that it was a civil war because the aggressor named YU attacked the country of Croatia.
croatia:
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
croatia:
‘… IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR…’‘…It was a civil war because …’
Fight
Although I’m sure the damp rag, van Rumpuy - that very well paid but undemocratically foisted nobody in-charge - and his bruisers, will bring plenty of covert EU diktats to bring all sides into an anaesthetised state of grey dullness (with UK subscription money) before too long …Zzzzz
There is no room here to fight, we are now all in the same cartridge. As for whether it was a civil war or aggression of one state to another, at that time when the Serbian army attacked Croatia, Croatia was an independent state aswell Slovenia, while Serbia was still in the federation which consisted among other with Bosnia and Herzegovina Macedonia and Montenegro.Therefore, you can not say that it was a civil war because the aggressor named YU attacked the country of Croatia.
That situation was absolutely no different to that which the secessionist states which made up the CSA were in when Lincoln blockaded them and then sent the Federal Union army in to invade the South and overturn turn the Confederacy.What happened in Yugoslavia was exactly the same situation unless you want to re write history to say that the American Civil War was a war that never happened either and the Slovenes and Croats just sat back and accepted the same situation without firing a shot in anger.
But as I’ve said now for ‘some reason’ those ex Yugoslav federation states now seem to be happy enough to support the idea of an even larger Federation in the form of the EU when it suits them.No suprise that at least a large part of the reasoning for the breakup of the former Yugoslav federation was because the money started running out and it would be no surprise that it would be money issues which would be the cause of the European Civil War at some point in the future.Especially in the case of if the Brits finally come to their senses and tell the whole federal EU bs project to zb off we’re out of here at some point if/when the EU federation has been established to the point of taking up arms against any state that wants to secede.It’s just that in this case the federation would probably be led by the East European majority with the most to lose while the secessionists would be those like Britain in the West.It’s time for us to get out now long before all that has a chance to take place.
As for Rumpuy and Merkel etc etc just read zb Lincoln.
…he’s off again!!
David 
Ok once more and again. Two different countries two different army . Its war. No need to dig in history. Its simply unless you don’t want addmit for some reasons like simphaty to someone or bad common knowlege or etc…enough for me on this.
croatia:
Ok once more and again. Two different countries two different army . Its war. No need to dig in history. Its simply unless you don’t want addmit for some reasons like simphaty to someone or bad common knowlege or etc…enough for me on this.
You’re trying to make an unbelievable re writing of history in order to dodge the issue of the inconsistency between Croatia supporting secession and therefore an anti federalist agenda in the case of getting out of the Yugoslav federation while then being all for what is a federation in all but name in the case of the EU in which the agenda is obviously full federalisation in the future.
What happened in Yugoslavia was a civil war resulting from the secession from the YU federation of certain states which formed it.Croatia,like Slovenia,( rightly ) being one of those secessionist states.What’s there to be sympathetic about because just like the US this country supported that secession and Croatia’s independence.My point is that position is untenable in the case of supporting the idea of both Croatia’s and our membership the EU or for that fact the continuation of the EU whatsoever being that there is an obvious federal agenda behind the object of that Union.While,as I’ve said,the US position both in regards to it’s own domestic policy as of 1861 to date and in regards to support of the idea of the EU is totally inconsistent with it’s support of those secessionist Yugoslav states during the Yugoslav civil war.I suppoe now you’re going to say that the Yugoslav federation never existed and that federation didn’t end up in a civil war between the forces of those secessionist states including Croatia and the Yugoslav federal army.
Yours suppo is wrong. Its sunny here its 33 degrees and beer is at 3°c great atmosphere and you are wellcome like best friend.
croatia:
Yours suppo is wrong. Its sunny here its 33 degrees and beer is at 3°c great atmosphere and you are wellcome like best friend.
I’ve no doubt it is just like it was during the 1980’s when I went there most years for my Summer holiday when times were ‘supposedly’ relatively good because Russia was subsidising the place with almost free fuel etc etc although,with the exception of Russian cash and oil,there was more dividing the place than all the artificial bs that Tito and his old Commie cronies like Tudjman etc made out was uniting it.Then it all went wrong and the rest is history and now it’s obvious that those states who seemed so keen to get out of one failing Yugoslav federation want to be part of an even bigger one in the form of the EU.In just the same way that they were Communists when it suited them and not when it didn’t usually based on wherever the money was coming from .
It’s just that this time it’s us paying for it instead of Russia and no doubt when it inevitably hits the buffers in the long term those ex Yugoslav states would then be on the federalists side,if/when the Brits ever need to take the same action against forced membership of the whole stitch up,at some time in the future,as those ex Yugoslav states did against forced membership of the old Yugoslav one.
I offeer a beer with smell of humanity whenever and wherever as long as you will accept it. P.s. im on my 4th tonight…
croatia:
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
croatia:
‘… IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR…’‘…It was a civil war because …’
Fight
‘…There is no room here to fight…’
Harry Hill might disagree
Happy Keith:
croatia:
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
croatia:
‘… IT WAS NOT CIVIL WAR…’‘…It was a civil war because …’
Fight
‘…There is no room here to fight…’
Harry Hill might disagree
Just replace yankee nation with european one and declaration of independence with treaty of Rome and this might be what future generation of Brits will be singing at some point in the future although luckily I probably won’t be around to see it.
Carryfast:
‘…Brits…’
Aaaargh (…followed by white noise)
That’s one of two dead-cert words - the other being ‘iconic’ - to guarantee disengagement
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
‘…Brits…’Aaaargh (…followed by white noise)
That’s one of two dead-cert words - to guarantee disengagement
Absolutely the idea of national identity is obviously going to be a problem in regards to those who view themselves as Europeans and Britain/England as a European state of a federal Europe and who’s flag is that blue thing with stars stuck all over it in a circle which seems to have been dreamt up either by those with infant school levels of intelligence or stoned Dutch.
Yet more similarities with those who viewed themselves as being native to Georgia or the Carolinas etc not the USA and the inevitable future that we’re putting the country on course for.Which just leaves that inconsitency between the Croatian’s fight for secession from the Yugoslav federation but now seemingly thinking it’s fine to be part of an even bigger European federation.I notice that croatia hasn’t,so far,provide any logical explanation for that inconsistency.
Carryfast:
‘…European state of a federal Europe … who’s flag is that blue thing with stars stuck all over it in a circle which seems to have been dreamt up either by those with infant school levels of intelligence or stoned Dutch…’
I understand that the EU spent tens of thousands of our tax ££’s funding the design of ‘that’ flag: What’s the betting each additional star of joining leeches ‘earns’ him quadrillions also
The ‘EU Anthem’ cost up into the millions of our ££’s too
Apparently 