(Agency drivers are) …entitled to 5.6 weeks paid lesave per year (including bank holidays) which equates to 28 days if you are working 5 days per week
…accruing pro-rata if you only work on an occasional basis.
Am i right in assuming that, if you are working on a self employed basis, you’re entitled to nowt?
If so, self employed workers should be paid at least 7.5% more than employed drivers. (28/365)
I don’t think that this happens
‘Self employed’ people at the agency I’m employed by get £1 per hour extra.
Yes I do get paid holiday pay, but the holidays must be pre-booked and taken, you can’t just claim a days holiday if there’s no work.
The pay rate is worked out from the average hourly pay of the previous 12 weeks or so; sadly so is the amount of hours per day paid My last two weeks holiday was paid at 3 hours per day.
unfortunatley with agencies you will never win.
when i was on them they kep trying to get me to go “self employed” for that extra £1 per hour. i actually sat down with them and explained how i would be losing out on that because to cover everything you get as an employee you would need to get at least £2.50 per hour extra which they were not willing to pay
zzarbean:
‘Self employed’ people at the agency I’m employed by get £1 per hour extra.
Yes I do get paid holiday pay, but the holidays must be pre-booked and taken, you can’t just claim a days holiday if there’s no work.
The pay rate is worked out from the average hourly pay of the previous 12 weeks or so; sadly so is the amount of hours per day paid My last two weeks holiday was paid at 3 hours per day.
Some you lose; others you don’t win.
So you won’t have a decent payout unless you’ve been flat out for 13 weeks, and then decide to take a week’s holiday that very week.
Means you can’t actually take holidays when you want if you think about it… You’ll be financially penalised if you do.
The Holiday Pot system is much fairer. Every payslip gives you so many minutes credit of holiday pay. Work a 50 hour week, and you’ll accrue around half a day’s pay which then cannot get taken away because its a pot and not an average that might drop off over later weeks… Works well for someone like me who does odds and sods, and the occasional full week here and there.
Thus, you can do 10 weeks @ 50 hours a week (which I don’t) and accrue a week’s holiday worth a 50 hour week in itself.
This, I think you’ll find works out at about 5.6 weeks per year based on a full time job doing 50 hours a week as well, so you’re effectively getting as good a system as a full timer. Seems pretty fair to me, as it favours both hours bashers and bits and pieces pickers alike.
I am pretty sure the law now states you can claim for up to 3 years!
It doesn’t. Unless your contract states differently, holiday pay doesn’t carry over to the following year. Use it or lose it. There’s no legal requirement for employers to carry unused holidays over to a new year.
have checked it out and you can claim for up to 3 years you earn it so its yours employers rely on people not knowing the law to say oh you didnt use it so its gone!
One agency failed to deliver on my holiday back pay when i left despite several requests from me, they were ‘looking into it’.
Couple of months later they went bust, i assumed that was me buggered but i contacted the official receiver and registered myself as a creditor, he couldn’t have been more helpful.
Got my full holiday pay entitlement about 6 months later.
The reason for holidays is because we’re required to have a minimum time away from work, so take the damned holidays.
I’m with winseer, holiday pots are great, I’ve had some seriously well paid holidays due to a holiday pot.
Most agencies I’ve work for have done a holiday day as 8hrs - anything over 8hrs is paid at an enhanced rate - but the number of days holiday you get is pro-rata, 20 days work = 1 days holiday approx (weekends or banks don’t count if paid at an enhanced rate - even 50p / hour more is classed as overtime rate)
20 days for 1 holiday seems a bit mean - especially if it’s only an 8 hour flat to boot.
I think the minutes credit system works out at 1 hour for every 8 worked based on net rather than gross pay.
Thus, to get a day’s holiday worth 8 hours pay at whatever rate you get, you’d need to only do 8 shifts of at least 8 paid hours in length each. That’s more than twice as good as the 20 days for one system I believe. The pot doesn’t get deleted march 31st either, because it’s a pot and your money once it’s in there.
Imagine what would happen otherwise if we had a “late payer” outfit that then said on week three, that
“Oops. Sorry bud, we forgot to pay you on time, but now the window has closed, and you’ve lost that week’s wages because under contract it’s expired. You left it too late to chase it up.”
(Left it too late? What moaning every day for weeks, but it’s always “I’ll call you straight back - tomorrow”) :x