OwenMoney:
Very nice Zac - someone had time on their hands -Unite says that the strike concerns 40 tanker drivers transporting fuel under the Phillips 66 contract that supplies fuel to Jet Garages. The truck drivers are employed by JW Suckling and Hoyer Gas and Petroleum Logistics Ltd.
The trade union explains that the dispute is a result of the drivers being paid £5 an hour less than their counterparts employed by other hauliers on the same contract, while also having comparatively poorer terms and conditions.
Read more at: trans.info/en/tanker-drivers-strike-331358Exactly this, I know a driver for Sucklings at was due to the £5 difference
So no wonder they got a big rise
I’ve never really taken any notice of the French lol, however their country like unions stand together far better than what ours does now, or maybe our numbers of migrants although smaller have actually broken the united country part of England.
So when they screw us over on pensions unlike the French are doing about their pension issues, Englands does not have enough solidarity to challenge it, and why they fail to address the issue of imigration…keep the population diluted and polarized, and those still challenging are portrayed as bad, racist, etc so they start to shout less about it all… or get labelled.
And now some might realise just what muppets blocking roads and wreaking everyones day was really about, as we now have due to them.
Through the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act, the Government introduced a statutory offence of public nuisance and created powers for the police to place conditions on unjustifiably noisy protests and increased the sentences for obstructing the highway.
ignore the Highway bit at the end just part of the defusion, , all that was needed was the first part, as whats classified as “unjustifiably noisy protests” how easy is it to make that match whatever they want in legal terms… if it had been in place when miners strikes were on, both parts would of been applied, as remember as a kid travelling with my mum and dad, all on the motorway bridges with their banners…
Whats posibly next …
All property in the range of first time buyers, are going to be collapsing in value with the interest rates so high, as their will be no buyers for them, as once we get to the soon to be reached point, no first time buyers are going to risk buying anything even if they could, even if discounted, as wont be enough when matched to the risk, and theyve just watched millions of prior first time buyers loose everything and what they initially put in, most likely all in serious debt over it all…
these properties will be presented as if going to auction, so rock bottom value, and then picked up by the super rich, packaged up in bundles by the banks, and only offer them as a bundled package, lableled as an invesment scheme, that they choose who can access keeping it a closed sale for the super rich, even those that may afford them wont get a chance as they wont match the critera needed to access this investment scheme… if just a brick and mortor house, certain rules would mean placed in an open sale to keep it fair as such.
after that, expect the rest will be stolen too… if your in a million pound+ house your okay, as new super rich will emarge from this, and the kids of existing super rich still will be buying and the market healthy at that level, Demand and Supply …
Its sad watching your country slowly dying… but I guess it is what it is
… Killing the Unions all that time ago, was the worst thing ever to happen for the average worker… and it was also really before even my time…
they wont allow them to get any real strength again… if they did, a way will be found to disolve them… WELCOME TO THE RAT RACE … but unlike rats people still keep trying to follow the same route out of it all, thinking voting for any party will actually make a change…
I SAY REVOLUTION !!! GALLOWS !!! STOCKS AND ROCKS !!! … I may go missing tomorrow, if I do they got to me hahahahahahahahaha… or maybe I sold up, bought a boat and escaped… most likely though down the pub whilst some still exist…
toonsy:
Zac_A:
That’s not the first victory I’ve read about in the last few months for unionised drivers, maybe unions aren’t such a bad idea after all (for some folk).Shh.
Unions are bad remember.
Well in this case they achieved nowt for years, happy to take the union dues whilst clearly being happy with the fact that drivers in the company in England were being paid 26% more. If they hadn’t been then this action would’ve been taken years ago. Where I’m at the drivers in the northern England sites have had parity pay with the ones in Northamptonshire for as long as I can remember, decades.
OwenMoney:
The Tories are no friends of the workers.
Looks at the massive increase in the personal tax allowance there has been, looks at the mandatory forced introduction of the Workplace Pension Scheme which means almost all employees have a work pension now, looks at how much National Minimum Wage has risen and will be rising 92p per hour from next month, looks at the fact there are no longer tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans a year who can just walk in and start to work here, forcing me to accept lower wages and making my employment terms worse because they’re happy to work for much less and not worried about things like being paid overtime because compared to being back home they’re earning a fortune…
Looks at Labour who never put a cap on EU migrants from the new accession countries which led to 15 years of worsening pay and employment terms for millions of British workers in low/unskilled jobs. Looks at Labour who relaxed lending rules so people could borrow up to 125% of the value of their home and self certify their income which led to a 300% rise in house prices in their first 10 years in power. Looks at Labour who created such a funding crisis in the NHS that it had to divert over half a billion pounds from it’s education budget to plug a £600m funding hole, something which meant they had to cut nurse training places and post grad medical training resulting today in a shortage of senior grade nurses and consultants. Looks at Labour who saddled the NHS with so much PFI debt with terms so generous for their mates in the City that £1 in every £8 the NHS is spending today is spent on servicing those PFI loans…
Not convinced your point is a valid one.
Conor:
toonsy:
Zac_A:
That’s not the first victory I’ve read about in the last few months for unionised drivers, maybe unions aren’t such a bad idea after all (for some folk).Shh.
Unions are bad remember.
Well in this case they achieved nowt for years, happy to take the union dues whilst clearly being happy with the fact that drivers in the company in England were being paid 26% more. If they hadn’t been then this action would’ve been taken years ago. Where I’m at the drivers in the northern England sites have had parity pay with the ones in Northamptonshire for as long as I can remember, decades.
So are you suggesting that the Union should have told the workforce to take action?
The Union are the servants, not the masters.
Ive no doubt that the Scots would have gladly taken a pay rise, but were they being paid a rate comparable with other jobs in their area? Were they dissatisfied enough to risk forgoing weeks of money to gain that bit extra? I dont know the answer to the above. Just suggesting that things are rarely clear cut.
There will be no point in action unless it has substantial support.
Conor:
OwenMoney:
The Tories are no friends of the workers.Looks at the massive increase in the personal tax allowance there has been, looks at the mandatory forced introduction of the Workplace Pension Scheme which means almost all employees have a work pension now, looks at how much National Minimum Wage has risen and will be rising 92p per hour from next month, looks at the fact there are no longer tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans a year who can just walk in and start to work here, forcing me to accept lower wages and making my employment terms worse because they’re happy to work for much less and not worried about things like being paid overtime because compared to being back home they’re earning a fortune…
Looks at Labour who never put a cap on EU migrants from the new accession countries which led to 15 years of worsening pay and employment terms for millions of British workers in low/unskilled jobs. Looks at Labour who relaxed lending rules so people could borrow up to 125% of the value of their home and self certify their income which led to a 300% rise in house prices in their first 10 years in power. Looks at Labour who created such a funding crisis in the NHS that it had to divert over half a billion pounds from it’s education budget to plug a £600m funding hole, something which meant they had to cut nurse training places and post grad medical training resulting today in a shortage of senior grade nurses and consultants. Looks at Labour who saddled the NHS with so much PFI debt with terms so generous for their mates in the City that £1 in every £8 the NHS is spending today is spent on servicing those PFI loans…
Not convinced your point is a valid one.
Workplace pensions improved lately? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.
Minimum wage raised? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.
A relaxation in banking rules by Labour? Yes.
Although the Tories wanted even more rules relaxed.
Did house prices rise under Labour? Yes.
Have they fallen or even stabilised under the Tories? No.
Much more to house prices than the amount a lender will grant, or the interest rates. The ratio of salary to price, the housing supply are very big factors too.
Was it an error to allow unrestricted immigration under Blair?
I think so.
So does Jack Straw and other`s who were in that Gov.
A £600 million hole in NHS funding? Yes.
And the Tories are blaming last years finances on what 13 years earlier? If they cant fix it after 13 years of being in Gov, should they be allowed in for another term?
The Tories with Sunak as Chancellor were aware of billions of pounds of fraud during Covid times, yet refused to investigate and chase the money and the fraudsters. Lord Anew had the decency to resign over it.
Yet they look for every few quid an out of work claimant might be overpaid.
Who looks after their mates? PPE ?
Tories shouldn`t be chucking stones around so much.
Franglais:
Conor:
OwenMoney:
The Tories are no friends of the workers.Looks at the massive increase in the personal tax allowance there has been, looks at the mandatory forced introduction of the Workplace Pension Scheme which means almost all employees have a work pension now, looks at how much National Minimum Wage has risen and will be rising 92p per hour from next month, looks at the fact there are no longer tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans a year who can just walk in and start to work here, forcing me to accept lower wages and making my employment terms worse because they’re happy to work for much less and not worried about things like being paid overtime because compared to being back home they’re earning a fortune…
Looks at Labour who never put a cap on EU migrants from the new accession countries which led to 15 years of worsening pay and employment terms for millions of British workers in low/unskilled jobs. Looks at Labour who relaxed lending rules so people could borrow up to 125% of the value of their home and self certify their income which led to a 300% rise in house prices in their first 10 years in power. Looks at Labour who created such a funding crisis in the NHS that it had to divert over half a billion pounds from it’s education budget to plug a £600m funding hole, something which meant they had to cut nurse training places and post grad medical training resulting today in a shortage of senior grade nurses and consultants. Looks at Labour who saddled the NHS with so much PFI debt with terms so generous for their mates in the City that £1 in every £8 the NHS is spending today is spent on servicing those PFI loans…
Not convinced your point is a valid one.
Workplace pensions improved lately? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.Minimum wage raised? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.A relaxation in banking rules by Labour? Yes.
Although the Tories wanted even more rules relaxed.Did house prices rise under Labour? Yes.
Have they fallen or even stabilised under the Tories? No.
Much more to house prices than the amount a lender will grant, or the interest rates. The ratio of salary to price, the housing supply are very big factors too.Was it an error to allow unrestricted immigration under Blair?
I think so.
So does Jack Straw and other`s who were in that Gov.A £600 million hole in NHS funding? Yes.
And the Tories are blaming last years finances on what 13 years earlier? If they cant fix it after 13 years of being in Gov, should they be allowed in for another term?The Tories with Sunak as Chancellor were aware of billions of pounds of fraud during Covid times, yet refused to investigate and chase the money and the fraudsters. Lord Anew had the decency to resign over it.
Yet they look for every few quid an out of work claimant might be overpaid.Who looks after their mates? PPE ?
Tories shouldn`t be chucking stones around so much.
Both put forward valid arguments, feel most in the country would just like to have the oppportunity to have an elected Prime Minister, and yes might cause a few bumps with an election right now or prior, but doesnt feel very democratic, especially as this current Prime Minister lacks a direct democratic mandate from the people for his programme for government… And if there had been an election with him leading, would they of won, I feel he wouldnt of, and dont think they will win when they eventually stop dragging it out, thinking people are going to forget whats taken place …
Just to note, I also dont really want Labour in either… or Greens etc… I dont feel any current party represents working people, or ever will… those days are long gone due to a shift in the direction of those that become politicians, and just ALL self serving… when i see one that actually is genuinely interested in the Country… I’ll be behind them, but still waiting…
ROB ROY you got that wrong during the 1979/80 drivers strike , after hundreds of drivers lost their jobs and companies folded for £5 a hour where were the TANKER DRIVERS absolutely no where to be seen,[ not on strike no where they left us all in the mire because they had more than £5 pound a hour] and did not give a toss about the majority of company drivers if they had struck for 1 week it would have been settled but ohh no we were the same union TGW. all paid the same dues.
They had some kind of them and us about them respect was lost on them greedy men.dbp
TonkaBoy:
Franglais:
Conor:
OwenMoney:
The Tories are no friends of the workers.Looks at the massive increase in the personal tax allowance there has been, looks at the mandatory forced introduction of the Workplace Pension Scheme which means almost all employees have a work pension now, looks at how much National Minimum Wage has risen and will be rising 92p per hour from next month, looks at the fact there are no longer tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans a year who can just walk in and start to work here, forcing me to accept lower wages and making my employment terms worse because they’re happy to work for much less and not worried about things like being paid overtime because compared to being back home they’re earning a fortune…
Looks at Labour who never put a cap on EU migrants from the new accession countries which led to 15 years of worsening pay and employment terms for millions of British workers in low/unskilled jobs. Looks at Labour who relaxed lending rules so people could borrow up to 125% of the value of their home and self certify their income which led to a 300% rise in house prices in their first 10 years in power. Looks at Labour who created such a funding crisis in the NHS that it had to divert over half a billion pounds from it’s education budget to plug a £600m funding hole, something which meant they had to cut nurse training places and post grad medical training resulting today in a shortage of senior grade nurses and consultants. Looks at Labour who saddled the NHS with so much PFI debt with terms so generous for their mates in the City that £1 in every £8 the NHS is spending today is spent on servicing those PFI loans…
Not convinced your point is a valid one.
Workplace pensions improved lately? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.Minimum wage raised? Yes.
After being introduced by a Labour Gov. voted against by Tories.A relaxation in banking rules by Labour? Yes.
Although the Tories wanted even more rules relaxed.Did house prices rise under Labour? Yes.
Have they fallen or even stabilised under the Tories? No.
Much more to house prices than the amount a lender will grant, or the interest rates. The ratio of salary to price, the housing supply are very big factors too.Was it an error to allow unrestricted immigration under Blair?
I think so.
So does Jack Straw and other`s who were in that Gov.A £600 million hole in NHS funding? Yes.
And the Tories are blaming last years finances on what 13 years earlier? If they cant fix it after 13 years of being in Gov, should they be allowed in for another term?The Tories with Sunak as Chancellor were aware of billions of pounds of fraud during Covid times, yet refused to investigate and chase the money and the fraudsters. Lord Anew had the decency to resign over it.
Yet they look for every few quid an out of work claimant might be overpaid.Who looks after their mates? PPE ?
Tories shouldn`t be chucking stones around so much.Both put forward valid arguments, feel most in the country would just like to have the oppportunity to have an elected Prime Minister, and yes might cause a few bumps with an election right now or prior, but doesnt feel very democratic, especially as this current Prime Minister lacks a direct democratic mandate from the people for his programme for government… And if there had been an election with him leading, would they of won, I feel he wouldnt of, and dont think they will win when they eventually stop dragging it out, thinking people are going to forget whats taken place …
Just to note, I also dont really want Labour in either… or Greens etc… I dont feel any current party represents working people, or ever will… those days are long gone due to a shift in the direction of those that become politicians, and just ALL self serving… when i see one that actually is genuinely interested in the Country… I’ll be behind them, but still waiting…
No PM is democratically elected. Not even BoJo. Its not how it works here.
I do get what you’re saying but ultimately the only thing we have a say on is who our local representative is. Beyond that it’s chosen by their party - remember the demographic of the Conservative party os mainly white, mainly older, mainly wealthy, mainly male…