My cabphone hasn’t been working for the last two months. The little microphone thingummygig on the dash has died. It costs £5 for a new one and they won’t authorise the garage to buy one. Meanwhile I’ve been putting (and receiving) £20 per week expenses in for using my phone! Go figure.
Silver_Surfer:
It’s fair enough not ringing out on your phone for company purposes but being arsey about receiving a work call on your personal phone would put you at the top of the list to be first out the door in my opinion, just sayin’
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Silver_Surfer:
It’s fair enough not ringing out on your phone for company purposes but being arsey about receiving a work call on your personal phone would put you at the top of the list to be first out the door in my opinion, just sayin’
gotta agree with that, i used to work with one fella who got proper mad if the office rang him on his personal phone, he reckoned he used to bill them £5 a time and said they paid, i’ve no idea if he did, or they did 
Silver_Surfer:
It’s fair enough not ringing out on your phone for company purposes but being arsey about receiving a work call on your personal phone would put you at the top of the list to be first out the door in my opinion, just sayin’
Same as that, can’t see the logic behind the driver’s decision.
If I did ever manage to put a second (or third) truck on the road, and needed a driver, and the driver told me at interview that he wouldn’t take re-load instructions over his personal phone so I would need to give him a company phone, then there is only one place that £30+ a month cost could come, and that would be out of his wages. My fuelcard company, insurer, the taxman etc wouldn’t move on their costs, what makes him think I would be able to move on mine?
Also, if I did employ anybody, there’s no way I would be able to give him a pay rise this year. The rates haven’t gone up while everything else has, so where would the money come from to give a driver a pay rise? If a disgruntled employee thought I was operating a little gold mine here then there’d be nothing stopping him putting his own truck on the road and jumping on the Gravy Train. 
Luckily, I don’t employ anybody and have no plans to, so am spared the everyday ignorance of the average mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging lorry driver when trying to explain even the most basic rules of an Operator’s economics. 
I like it. No pay rise for me either.
Simple one. No need to change number.
Just block any work numbers from ringing your phone.
At very least. Sugest you are not going to answer the phone till he buys you a handsfree.
Got a fairly decent payrise 3 months ago.
Anyone seen a group on facebook hgv drivers strike 2014 some proper fruitcakes on there.
OTS:
Just tell them you haven’t got a phone anymore
^^^^this. I did this and they got short shrift from my mother when they called!
I occasionally drive for an agency, if the phone rings I pull over and answer or call them back, I tell them I’ve pulled over, pulling over usually wastes 5 minutes they soon stop ringing you. My calls are inclusive in my contract and therefore I do not charge for calls.
Harry Monk:
Silver_Surfer:
It’s fair enough not ringing out on your phone for company purposes but being arsey about receiving a work call on your personal phone would put you at the top of the list to be first out the door in my opinion, just sayin’Same as that, can’t see the logic behind the driver’s decision.
If I did ever manage to put a second (or third) truck on the road, and needed a driver, and the driver told me at interview that he wouldn’t take re-load instructions over his personal phone so I would need to give him a company phone, then there is only one place that £30+ a month cost could come, and that would be out of his wages. My fuelcard company, insurer, the taxman etc wouldn’t move on their costs, what makes him think I would be able to move on mine?
Also, if I did employ anybody, there’s no way I would be able to give him a pay rise this year. The rates haven’t gone up while everything else has, so where would the money come from to give a driver a pay rise? If a disgruntled employee thought I was operating a little gold mine here then there’d be nothing stopping him putting his own truck on the road and jumping on the Gravy Train.
Luckily, I don’t employ anybody and have no plans to, so am spared the everyday ignorance of the average mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging lorry driver when trying to explain even the most basic rules of an Operator’s economics.
So, by those standards, wages are a business cost which you would expect your ‘knuckle dragging’ employee to carry him or herself?
I can see why you have no plans to become an employer anytime soon! Neanderthal thinking!
Just saying like!
Muckspreader:
I occasionally drive for an agency, if the phone rings I pull over and answer or call them back, I tell them I’ve pulled over, pulling over usually wastes 5 minutes they soon stop ringing you. My calls are inclusive in my contract and therefore I do not charge for calls.
I think its all about reasonableness. If its a couple of calls a week then maybe you’d let it slide. 15 calls a day is a different matter.
To those that say it doesn’t matter because you get inclusive minutes, why should you have to choose and pay for a handset and tariff to appease your employer?
It goes back to the argument that it’s a business expense. You wouldn’t subsidise fuel just because you brought a car with an offer that came with £1000 of free fuel.
fredthered:
So, by those standards, wages are a business cost which you would expect your ‘knuckle dragging’ employee to carry him or herself?I can see why you have no plans to become an employer anytime soon! Neanderthal thinking!
Just saying like!
Well, it’s like this. I’d like to give myself a pay rise, but I can’t unless I get a rate rise. If I don’t get a rate rise but the cost of everything else goes up then I’ll have to give myself a pay cut. Whether you’re talking about running a business or a household, you can’t consistently pay out more than you take in.
Truckbling:
Terry T:
Not giving someone a pay rise is the same as reducing their wages. Why should we stand for it ?Because we are drivers and bending over is what we do best!
Oh baby 
Harry Monk:
fredthered:
So, by those standards, wages are a business cost which you would expect your ‘knuckle dragging’ employee to carry him or herself?I can see why you have no plans to become an employer anytime soon! Neanderthal thinking!
Just saying like!
Well, it’s like this. I’d like to give myself a pay rise, but I can’t unless I get a rate rise. If I don’t get a rate rise but the cost of everything else goes up then I’ll have to give myself a pay cut. Whether you’re talking about running a business or a household, you can’t consistently pay out more than you take in.
Thats business for you - most unfair! If costs rise don’t prices?
As some on here would say, you knew the score etc! If you can’t stand the heat get out the kitchen so to speak.
Thats what the big boys want - you can have the crap, we’ll have the cream and we will even get the employees to subsidise it too!
Quality!!
And how much would YOU charge me to come and work for you if you were taking on?!
Just thinking out loud like!
fredthered:
Thats business for you - most unfair! If costs rise don’t prices?
No, in road transport rates are normally dictated by the customer and that applies to transport companies of all sizes. It’s like this. Tesco tell a farmer how much they will pay him for his potatoes, not the other way round.
However, if you think that you could buck this trend then there’d be nothing stopping you from getting an Operator’s Licence and making a fortune.
No ta! Apparently there’s no money in it!
It’s funny when people say, but the rates haven’t risen. Well, they’ve risen for somebody, that’s why stuff gets more expensive. Inflation I think they call it.
It’s down to YOU to get your bit.
A lot of it is down to the individual companies, I am self employed for now and do have my own phone but both companies I contract to have given me phones everytime I pull for them, I do know that they both have phones fitted to every truck with only fixed dialing though, if a driver needs to call a customer he calls the office and they deal with it, they can put a customer through to the driver if needed.
If I was employed and expected to use my own phone at my cost then it would be a no. Common sense needs to prevail, if they paid expenses towards it then that’s different, if your on a break or not working then turn it off.
Quite right any firm iv worked for who require driver to use personal phone always pay expenses to cover cost.