1st class training

Hey is this company any good for doing my class 2 and class1 so rigid and artic both for just over £2k

is the price to good to be true.

Ash

seems a bit steep to me, i would have guessed total costs should be around £1k mark. also as you will see on other posts you need to avoid these brokers and go direct to a training company. In my day you never had these ‘brokers’ but all has changed since then i guess.

check out your local paper under training and look at local training company. will also help if you outline your location so maybe other can recommend good trainer. all the best

dont know where your from mate, but that does seem a bit steep to me, i paid £900 in Leeds for my C+E last november, so i would have thought you should be paying around £1750 for both. Ha the driver CPC training been included in the price??

Ash16:
Hey is this company any good for doing my class 2 and class1 so rigid and artic both for just over £2k

is the price to good to be true.

Ash

Hi Ash16,

My tip for this situation is that (if you decide to contact them) you should ask to visit their training establishment, where you can meet the instructors and see the trucks shown on their website. You should then be able to draw your own conclusions from any answers given.
If you decide to go ahead and make a booking, then try to use a credit (not debit) card to pay. That way, you have some protection in case things don’t turn out as planned for any reason.

If you’re looking to start training for your LGV licence, you can see our list of the names of training schools that have been used and recommended by TNUK members.The list is organised by county, so you may need to scroll when you land.

:arrow_right: LINK: LGV TRAINING TIPS [Reworked 01/02/2022] (Read only) - #5 by rog - NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE) - Trucknet UK

I hope that helps. :smiley:

Ash I know you to be only very young but why dont you call 1 of the trainers on here & ask for some advice ( there are quite a few ) & I know form my past experience they will talk you through all of it & give you all the help & advice you need ( some do offer accommodation if you train with them ) hope this helps best of luck with it

Or you could wait till next year & find out when the PDA are doing a training day this is free where you can go & have a day not only looking but also driving them before you spend your cash

But I do know when I had my transport comp that I could not & would not employ anyone under 25 this was due to the insurance although this does not always apply as there are some young drivers out there

Thanks for all your help guys.

I have been enquiring about the driving goods vehicles apprentiship.

The price is both test with theory and hazard perception test. and upto 20hours 1 on 1 tuition

oh and i am from sunny isle of sheppey in kent.

Ash

Hi Ash,

Please take the time to read our advice.

Have you done any proper comparisons on a like-for-like basis and got all the info you need before you come to a decision?

There are some unscrupulous people about, and some of them would think nothing of disappearing with your money!!

:bulb: Please visit and verify any training school that you intend to use. A training school will welcome your visit and be only too glad to show you that they’re for real. Beware, because you can’t always get the best answers from a ‘google’ search :exclamation:

If you have some time, you could read this post: (It gets more and more interesting the further you read. :wink: )

I hope I’ve done enough to caution you before rushing headlong into something that you clearly don’t fully understand, but please don’t take that the wrong way. I’m simply trying to save you some cash.

BTW Ash, are you aware of where 1st class are?

Ash16 as you are only 18 take your time have a good luck round visit all the training providers in your area look in you local yellow pages to find them ask them questions then go back home if you want re visit asking more questions

Does it include medical :question:
Does it include theory :question:
Does it include HPT :question:
Does it include dcpc :question:
Dose it include test fee :question:
Does it include VAT :question:

I agree with everyone else. I really suggest you don’t pay any driving school a penny before you have a driving assessment with at least them, and perhaps have another assessment with some other schools.

I run a driving school in north yorkshire and therefore see customers coming through our door that have been ripped off by other companies. It’s sad to see but frankly they have always trusted a flashy website far too much, never visited the company but somehow felt confident to spend £2000 over the phone. I really recommend you try before you buy. All good driving schools do a pre training assessment to ensure you book the right length of course. How do you know that 20 hour course suits your ability? Our standard category C course lasts 35 hours and is one-to-one, I would not imagine you will pass on the first attempt with only 20 hours but will probably make it on the 2nd test. However the money you will have paid for category c+e if booking both at once will be used up by your retests and they will get some more money out of you for the training fees for c+e. Many driving schools don’t want you pass first time because it’s less profit, they want you to have to use up some of your fees reserved for the c+e.

If I was you I would only book cat c to start with so you don’t get conned, might sound like you will pay more but it’s not true.

I know all the tricks, what goes on is often quite clever and well hidden and it’s big schools that often operate in the most slick fashion. You can sometimes find the best deals are with small driving schools, who might only have one truck but don’t charge vat. However their truck might be a bit old and not have practice area for reversing of their own.

But really just visit a few companies and have a chat with the owner if poss. If you lived closer I would tell you to pop in! I would class us a family run medium sized school, only have around 10 vehicles but do offer a tailored service, and I feel that’s very important because all drivers can’t be treated just like a number but an individual.

Thanks for all the advise. I will defo now go round all my local companies and even ones further out. I might even pop up to north yorkshire only 5hour ish drive.

Ash16:
Thanks for all the advise. I will defo now go round all my local companies and even ones further out. I might even pop up to north yorkshire only 5hour ish drive.

If going that far why not visit Peter Smyth as well he in Mansfield & Data Academy in Leicester

:bulb: There’s another well respected training school near Leatherhead, but he’s probably nodded-off and not noticed your post yet. :laughing: :laughing: :wink: :grimacing:

Ash16:
Thanks for all the advise. I will defo now go round all my local companies and even ones further out. I might even pop up to north yorkshire only 5hour ish drive.

Well done in taking the advice you have saved yourself a lot of money and heartache :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Good luck in finding somewhere I trained with j coates in slough and had good training there , went up to ep training in bookham surrey to look around and am going to take an assement with them soon this year for c+e

Good luck with it all

Jennie x

Jennie:

Ash16:
Thanks for all the advise. I will defo now go round all my local companies and even ones further out. I might even pop up to north yorkshire only 5hour ish drive.

Well done in taking the advice you have saved yourself a lot of money and heartache :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Good luck in finding somewhere I trained with j coates in slough and had good training there , went up to ep training in bookham surrey to look around and am going to take an assement with them soon this year for c+e

Good luck with it all

Jennie x

It is nice to see that some young people take some notice of us “older members”

soz Ash but the normal saying is " employ a teenager while they still know everything "

See i dont no everything thats why i want to take the test and the training to learn and become to no everything :wink:

I will listen to all the advice you `olders’ have to say :smiley:

What an absolutely ridiculous statement from a well respected company.

Tockwith Training:
Our standard category C course lasts 35 hours and is one-to-one, I would not imagine you will pass on the first attempt with only 20 hours but will probably make it on the 2nd test. However the money you will have paid for category c+e if booking both at once will be used up by your retests and they will get some more money out of you for the training fees for c+e. Many driving schools don’t want you pass first time because it’s less profit, they want you to have to use up some of your fees reserved for the c+e.

Most schools operate a 5 day course with 4 hours hands-on each day. We operate 4 day courses which equates to 16 hours including the test. Please take a look at our 2010 passes with only 1 vehicle flairtraining.co.uk/studentgallery.htm . We also provide retest training free.

On behalf of all training providers that do not provide 35 hours 1 to 1 training for a standard Cat C course (which is 100% of all providers except you) this board is not intended to give misleading information. You are correct to say have an assessment with several schools but do not try to say 35 hours is the benchmark.

As I say you are a well respected school so keep it honest.

IIRC, about 20-25 hours (on road) was about average for Cat “C” candidates, but I’m sure that there are many exceptions.

I have copied this from another post as I thought it is relevant to the debate on how long a course should be.

I would say that always go for an assessment and talk to an instructor.

An average driver would struggle with anything less than 20 hours and would probably need more than this so cutting the course length of a 20 hour course by 25% to 16 hours has got to be asking alot from the trainee to reach the standard.

As regards to 1st class trucking they have been taken over by someone who worked for Clearstone and he employs their sales “techniques” their. They do operate vehicles and probably subs work out to other parts of the country. Again go and get an assessment to help make your mind up.

All the pass rates are published on the DSA website for the past few years and I have noticed that Sterling who are no longer around

dft.gov.uk/dsa/Documents/FOI … 009-10.pdf

The above link shows the pass rates for each test centre for the last financial year.

Looking at it Chelmsford has the lowest pass rate in England by some margin.

So the reasons for this could either be:

The trainees are no good from that area of the country!
The examiners are not marking to the same standards as the rest of the country!
The trainers are either no good or not giving enough time behind the wheel to give the trainees the chance of passing!

My thoughts would be that the trainees would be no different, the examiners would be check tested to make sure their testing standards where ok which only leaves the trainers.

I would suspect that the local trainers are competing on price and to make them look cheaper they are cutting down on the number of hours the trainee is getting which may be the cause of the low pass rate.

Please please please do a LOT of research into these companies before agreeing to anything. I’m not saying that this company are ‘dodgy’ but please just be careful. Take plenty advice from people on this forum. :wink:

heh… 42% in Enfield… girls rising the overall… :slight_smile: like the guy above said research well… and try to stay away from 1st class trucking in Enfield… bunch of ■■■■■■■■ they are… regret I ever came across those guys…