15 hr days

hitch:
I will stick by what by what I wrote

You need to explain what you mean then.

1: Are you saying that if you do a 15 hour spread-over followed by a 9 hour rest period it’s 2 reduced daily rest periods.

Or as I suspect

2: Do you mean that if you do a 15 hour spread-over then after the next shift have a 9 hour rest period it’s 2 reduced daily rest periods.

2 would be correct, 1 certainly isn’t.

If he meant your second option Tach, then it’s terribly written. This isn’t Twitter where you are limited to 140 characters!

F-reds:
If he meant your second option Tach, then it’s terribly written. This isn’t Twitter where you are limited to 140 characters!

I know, but I can’t believe it was meant the way it was written :wink:

Lol had me baffled for a while !!!

I bet Astronauts don’t get all this “I need 11 hours rest, but can reduce it to 9 hours 3 times a week, then take off the number i first thought of, multiply it by the number of times I’ve had ■■■ the past fortnight and double it” ■■■■■■■■…

If the answer you get is “Zero” then you’re more qualified to be a footballer rather than an astronaut btw… :smiley:

as I see it
a 15 spread is a reduced break
a 9 rest is a reduced break

so therefore 1+1 = 2 reduced breaks

hitch:
as I see it
a 15 spread is a reduced break
a 9 rest is a reduced break

so therefore 1+1 = 2 reduced breaks

Oh dear.

He really is that stupid after all. :unamused:

There’s no such thing in the regulations as a 15 hour spread, the regulations only talk about the rest period either being reduced or not.

Because the daily rest period has to completed within 24 hours from the start of the shift a 15 hours shift means that you have to have a 9 hour reduced daily rest period
It’s only the daily rest period that’s reduced, so a 15 hour shift followed by a 9 hour rest is one daily rest period reduced to 9 hours, i.e, one reduced daily rest period.

hitch:
as I see it
a 15 spread is a reduced break
a 9 rest is a reduced break

so therefore 1+1 = 2 reduced breaks

A 15 hour shift would not be a reduction, it would be an extension to the maximum shift of 13 hours normally available,due to the daily rest requirements, which leads to a reduced daily rest. An extension of any type can’t also be a reduction, it can cause something else to be reduced but in itself it can’t be a reduction.

The number of hours worked prior to the rest period commencing is irrelevant. You could work a shift of 1 hour and take 9 hours rest of you could work 15 and its a reduced rest but either way it’s only ONE rest oeriod so one reduction.

Contraflow:

hitch:
as I see it
a 15 spread is a reduced break
a 9 rest is a reduced break

so therefore 1+1 = 2 reduced breaks

Oh dear.

He really is that stupid after all. :unamused:

Haha no comment

God Help Us ALL!!!

I thought we all had done the DCPC and were supposed to understand the regulations involved in doing our jobs :unamused:

24 - 15 = 9 a reduced rest

Has it finally sunk in then… or do you still think that you’re right and the rest of the world is wrong?

hitch:
as I see it
a 15 spread is a reduced break
a 9 rest is a reduced break

so therefore 1+1 = 2 reduced breaks

I need it explaining at least my thinking gives me more sleep

It’s really not that hard to understand. :unamused:

How can a 15 hour spread be a reduced rest? You’re at work FFS!

The 9 hours that follow it is the reduced rest. The clue is in the word REST. Even if you have more than 9 hours off, you’ve only had 9 hours rest in the 24 hour period from starting work.

You can’t actually be as thick as you’re coming across. Can you? :open_mouth:

I thought I had a lot to learn…

Hi All,

I’m new to the site and just got my first driving job. I know the company uses a multi manned delivery service on their 3.5T vans but I was just wondering what kind of shifts I can do? I know about the Domestic rules but I’m unsure about what shift lengths I can do if I’m out with someone else. I can’t seem to find out much as multi manning seems geared towards the EU regs. Any help would be great, Thanks.

Your tm is getting the driving week and working week mixed up

Jay2014:
Hi All,

I’m new to the site and just got my first driving job. I know the company uses a multi manned delivery service on their 3.5T vans but I was just wondering what kind of shifts I can do? I know about the Domestic rules but I’m unsure about what shift lengths I can do if I’m out with someone else. I can’t seem to find out much as multi manning seems geared towards the EU regs. Any help would be great, Thanks.

Your just expected to go until your finished there isn’t a company run I g 3.5 ton van takes any notice of any hrs